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cal04

(41,505 posts)
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 12:16 AM Jul 2014

FAA Lifts Flight Restrictions for Ben Gurion International Airport

Source: FAA

Press Release – FAA Statement–FAA Lifts Flight Restrictions for Ben Gurion International Airport

The FAA has lifted its restrictions on U.S. airline flights into and out of Israel’s Ben Gurion Airport by cancelling a Notice to Airmen it renewed earlier today. The cancellation is effective at approximately 11:45 p.m. EDT.

Before making this decision, the FAA worked with its U.S. government counterparts to assess the security situation in Israel and carefully reviewed both significant new information and measures the Government of Israel is taking to mitigate potential risks to civil aviation.

The FAA’s primary mission and interest are the protection of people traveling on U.S. airlines. The agency will continue to closely monitor the very fluid situation around Ben Gurion Airport and will take additional actions, as necessary.

Read more: http://www.faa.gov/news/press_releases/news_story.cfm?newsId=16734

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FAA Lifts Flight Restrictions for Ben Gurion International Airport (Original Post) cal04 Jul 2014 OP
Wow, AIPAC works fast! BillZBubb Jul 2014 #1
They get what they have 'paid for', indeed. Purveyor Jul 2014 #10
Are you implying that AIPAC bought off the FAA? Cali_Democrat Jul 2014 #16
Or maybe the FAA decided that it's safe. Not everything is a conspiracy. n/t totodeinhere Jul 2014 #11
Earlier thread on AIPAC's complaint about the FAA decision alp227 Jul 2014 #12
If the FAA was really worried onecaliberal Jul 2014 #2
Any news from the airlines themselves? amandabeech Jul 2014 #3
One. American cal04 Jul 2014 #6
That is crazy to fly into a war zone RobertEarl Jul 2014 #8
You won't catch me on that plane. amandabeech Jul 2014 #9
How can they give warning? christx30 Jul 2014 #17
Hamas can warn that their rockets can land in BG airport. amandabeech Jul 2014 #18
How would we react if Hamas actually hit a passenger jet? nt killbotfactory Jul 2014 #4
That is a very interesting question, amandabeech Jul 2014 #5
They've been warned, haven't they? <sarcasm, deep and cynical> RobertEarl Jul 2014 #7
does Hamas give warnings on 121.5Mhz emergency frequency? quadrature Jul 2014 #14
The only reason that the ban was put in place in the first place was because of what totodeinhere Jul 2014 #13
A rocket landed successfully a mile (5,300 feet) from the runway alcibiades_mystery Jul 2014 #15
The Israelis were tracking that particular rocket and there was never any chance that totodeinhere Jul 2014 #20
I trust the FAA over propagandists for either side alcibiades_mystery Jul 2014 #21
+1...It's an independent agency BeyondGeography Jul 2014 #22
I actually agree with you on that. The FAA lifted the ban because they decided it was safe. totodeinhere Jul 2014 #23
I think I would have left the flight ban Sherman A1 Jul 2014 #19

alp227

(32,013 posts)
12. Earlier thread on AIPAC's complaint about the FAA decision
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 01:36 AM
Jul 2014

(before you hit alert because this post violates ToS by "claiming nefarious influence by Jews/Zionists/Israel&quot

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025281965

onecaliberal

(32,812 posts)
2. If the FAA was really worried
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 12:26 AM
Jul 2014

About keeping the planes safe they wouldn't have lifted the restriction. They bowed to pressure from AIPAC.

 

amandabeech

(9,893 posts)
3. Any news from the airlines themselves?
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 12:26 AM
Jul 2014

They, and their insurers, are the ones who will be responsible if something goes wrong.

cal04

(41,505 posts)
6. One. American
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 12:32 AM
Jul 2014

At least one U.S. airline said Wednesday they were ready to resume flights. American Airlines, which merged with US Airways, said that it would resume the US Airways flights between Philadelphia and Tel Aviv once the FAA allowed it.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2014/07/23/faa-u-s-flights-banned-from-flying-to-and-from-israel-for-another-day/#

 

amandabeech

(9,893 posts)
9. You won't catch me on that plane.
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 01:02 AM
Jul 2014

Maybe Hamas should run ads in Philadelphia print, broadcast and online media stating that they are at war with Israel, and that their rockets may hit civilian installations without warning, and that passengers fly at their own risk.

That's pretty much what the Germans did with the Lusitania, and a bunch of people sailed on her anyway.

Many did not arrive at their destinations in Britain.

And we went to war with Germany and Austria-Hungary.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
17. How can they give warning?
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 02:07 AM
Jul 2014

Even they don't know where their rockets are landing. They are unguided. They just fire, then Hamas watches the news to see what happened.

 

amandabeech

(9,893 posts)
18. Hamas can warn that their rockets can land in BG airport.
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 02:36 AM
Jul 2014

It's not as accurate as the Lusitania advertisement, of course.

I hate to give Hamas any power to shut down air service, but really, I think that travelers should be informed of any danger in their itinerary so that they can judge for themselves.

 

amandabeech

(9,893 posts)
5. That is a very interesting question,
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 12:31 AM
Jul 2014

and I hope that someone in the administration has several good answers.

Hamas could get lucky, and it would only take one rocket and one plane, and there would be hell to pay and rightly so.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
7. They've been warned, haven't they? <sarcasm, deep and cynical>
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 12:34 AM
Jul 2014

Everyone should be objecting to this war. Kerry and Obama are. The dead children would if they could. So, who is not objecting to this war? I see a few on DU who do not object.

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
13. The only reason that the ban was put in place in the first place was because of what
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 01:40 AM
Jul 2014

happened in Ukraine. Israel has had rockets fired at it for years and never has there been a direct hit on Ben Gurion Airport. I would personally feel safe landing there.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
15. A rocket landed successfully a mile (5,300 feet) from the runway
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 01:59 AM
Jul 2014

That's what caused the ban. It had nothing to do with Ukraine.

We don't fly passenger jets into runways that are under live rocket fire. This isn't too hard to understand.

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
20. The Israelis were tracking that particular rocket and there was never any chance that
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 11:46 AM
Jul 2014

it would hit the airport. I think the reason why some people are upset that the FAA lifted the ban is because they were enjoying the prospect of a propaganda victory by Hamas. Are Israel's detractors really all that concerned about safety at the airport, or are they reveling in the prospect of the economic hardship that a flight ban would cause Israel?

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
21. I trust the FAA over propagandists for either side
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 12:00 PM
Jul 2014

If the FAA believed there was a reason for the ban, there probably was. If the FAA thinks the airport is safe at this point, it probably is.

The lies and nonsense from both sides mean little to me. The flight ban seemed appropriate. As for what you "think" about what other people believe, I couldn't care less.

BeyondGeography

(39,367 posts)
22. +1...It's an independent agency
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 12:06 PM
Jul 2014

As if Obama would ever do anything to politicize safety anyway. Many comments re. the FAA here the past few days have been juvenile and fantastical.

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
23. I actually agree with you on that. The FAA lifted the ban because they decided it was safe.
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 12:21 PM
Jul 2014

What I am objecting to is those who seem upset because the band was lifted. I maintain that they have their own agenda which doesn't necessarily have anything to do with aviation safety. There is at least one poster who claims that the band was lifted due to political pressure from AIPAC which is nonsense. You and I are closer on this issue than some of the others in this thread.

I don't understand your comment that you could care less what my opinion is. I thought that message boards like this existed so that people could give out various opinions. If you don't care what the opinions of others are then what are you doing here? Or do you only want to hear opinions that you agree with?

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
19. I think I would have left the flight ban
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 06:10 AM
Jul 2014

in place, but one hopes that the FAA is correct in their decision.

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