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Bosonic

(3,746 posts)
Tue Jul 15, 2014, 12:47 PM Jul 2014

China tells U.S. to stay out of South China Seas dispute

Source: Reuters

China told the United States on Tuesday to stay out of disputes over the South China Sea and leave countries in the region to resolve problems themselves, after Washington said it wanted a freeze on stoking tension.

Michael Fuchs, U.S. deputy assistant secretary of state for Strategy and Multilateral Affairs, said no country was solely responsible for escalating tension in the region. But he reiterated the U.S. view that "provocative and unilateral" behaviour by China had raised questions about its willingness to abide by international law.

China claims 90 percent of the South China Sea, which is believed to contain oil and gas deposits and has rich fishery resources. Brunei, Malaysia, the Philippines, Vietnam and Taiwan also lay claim to parts of the sea, where about $5 trillion of ship-borne trade passes every year.

China's Foreign Ministry repeated that it had irrefutable sovereignty over the Spratly Islands, where most of the competing claims overlap, and that China continued to demand the immediate withdrawal of personnel and equipment of countries which were "illegally occupying" China's islands.

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/15/us-china-usa-asean-idUSKBN0FK0CM20140715?utm_source=twitter

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China tells U.S. to stay out of South China Seas dispute (Original Post) Bosonic Jul 2014 OP
Um, yeah...no can do. TwilightGardener Jul 2014 #1
+100. nt. IronGate Jul 2014 #3
No chance of that happening. IronGate Jul 2014 #2
What national security issues? jwirr Jul 2014 #4
Well, let's see, IronGate Jul 2014 #5
That is what I thought. It is not OUR national security they are talking about. jwirr Jul 2014 #6
Sorry, but Pres. Obama and his advisors disagree with you. nt. IronGate Jul 2014 #8
Doesn't surprise me and as long as we think we have to control the world it will continue to happen. jwirr Jul 2014 #11
Again, how exactly are those American national security interests? Hugabear Jul 2014 #7
No, we have mutual defense treaties with them, IronGate Jul 2014 #10
Mutual defense treaties dipsydoodle Jul 2014 #16
Taiwan definitly does and I would hazard a guess the the Phillipines do also. nt. IronGate Jul 2014 #18
Keeping China's hyper-imperialist ambitions in check, for one. geek tragedy Jul 2014 #14
Keeping Japan and South Korea from building nuclear weapons is one hack89 Jul 2014 #15
Don't they know that the United States is the only country allowed to claim oil from other areas? Hugabear Jul 2014 #9
The point you are missing is that those areas are DISPUTED davidpdx Jul 2014 #20
every time you buy something made in china you are aiding the chinese government nt msongs Jul 2014 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author Veilex Jul 2014 #13
This is a warning/threat the Chinese are unable to enforce agbdf Jul 2014 #17
I see, "unilateral" is a problem. They need a coaltion of the willing, maybe Kim is up for it jakeXT Jul 2014 #19
 

IronGate

(2,186 posts)
2. No chance of that happening.
Tue Jul 15, 2014, 12:50 PM
Jul 2014

The S. China Sea is a strategic area of which we've got national security interests in, so I don't see us staying out of it.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
11. Doesn't surprise me and as long as we think we have to control the world it will continue to happen.
Tue Jul 15, 2014, 01:19 PM
Jul 2014

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Hugabear

(10,340 posts)
7. Again, how exactly are those American national security interests?
Tue Jul 15, 2014, 01:04 PM
Jul 2014

Unless you take the position that the United States somehow has jurisdiction over these areas.

American Empire!

 

IronGate

(2,186 posts)
10. No, we have mutual defense treaties with them,
Tue Jul 15, 2014, 01:06 PM
Jul 2014

which Pres. Obama has made clear that he would honor them, so we do have a strategic interest in the S. China Sea.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
16. Mutual defense treaties
Tue Jul 15, 2014, 01:58 PM
Jul 2014

aka purely selfish interests unless its perfectly clear that the current populations want those treaties.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
14. Keeping China's hyper-imperialist ambitions in check, for one.
Tue Jul 15, 2014, 01:49 PM
Jul 2014

Regional stability and preventing a war, for another.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
15. Keeping Japan and South Korea from building nuclear weapons is one
Tue Jul 15, 2014, 01:55 PM
Jul 2014

safeguarding the flow of oil to our economic partners in the region is another.

Hugabear

(10,340 posts)
9. Don't they know that the United States is the only country allowed to claim oil from other areas?
Tue Jul 15, 2014, 01:05 PM
Jul 2014

See, it's okay if the United States goes into an area to exploit its oil resources, because we're the GOOD GUYS.

If Russia, China, or anyone else tries to do the exact same thing, well then we got ourselves a problem. Because that is OUR oil.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
20. The point you are missing is that those areas are DISPUTED
Tue Jul 15, 2014, 10:10 PM
Jul 2014

not by just one country, but by several. China has essentially said they control the entire South China Sea.



The blue lines are the UNCLOS 200 nautical mile EEZ
The red line is everything that China claims

Vietnam, Malaysia, Brunei, and The Philippines are just a few of the countries in which China is claiming the same rights. This map doesn't even go into the issues of disputed islands between China and Japan, which also have disputes.

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agbdf

(200 posts)
17. This is a warning/threat the Chinese are unable to enforce
Tue Jul 15, 2014, 02:00 PM
Jul 2014

China has been challenging the Territorial waters and lands of Viet Nam as well as those of our friends, Japan, The Philippines and Taiwan. Recognizing this serious threat, President Obama has wisely begun to shift the strategic posture of our military to this area. President Obama has made it clear to the Chinese that he will not tolerate the Communist Nation's rogue policies.

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