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alp227

(32,015 posts)
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 06:37 PM Jul 2014

Union pulls black college support after Koch gift

Source: AP

WASHINGTON (AP) —A powerful government workers' union will end its support for the United Negro College Fund after the group accepted $25 million from the conservative powerhouse Koch brothers and the college fund's president appeared at a Koch event.

In a letter made public Thursday, the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees said it will no longer partner with or raise funds for the fund, known for its iconic motto, "A mind is a terrible thing to waste."

AFSCME President Lee Saunders said the actions of the college fund's president "are not only deeply hostile to the rights and dignity of public employees, but also a profound betrayal of the ideals of the civil rights movement."

The fund supports historically black colleges and universities and provides scholarships. It accepted a $25 million grant last month from Koch Industries Inc. and the Charles Koch Foundation.

Read more: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/union-pulls-black-college-support-after-koch-gift

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Union pulls black college support after Koch gift (Original Post) alp227 Jul 2014 OP
Very troubling, indeed. Baitball Blogger Jul 2014 #1
I know how to resolve this, seize the entire KOCH existence and fund all colleges across the nation randys1 Jul 2014 #2
+1000 DeSwiss Jul 2014 #21
On what grounds and under what law would you do this? nt. IronGate Jul 2014 #25
cash the check and then tell everyone what asses the Koch's are... that'd be win/win for me tomm2thumbs Jul 2014 #3
Usually when the Koch's give money to universities EC Jul 2014 #26
The Koches do NOT give money away for free. Voice for Peace Jul 2014 #4
Dues will have to be paid. greiner3 Jul 2014 #14
The devil will have his due. nt tblue37 Jul 2014 #16
If they can get a few more Thomas Sowell's or Herman Cains out of their investment ErikJ Jul 2014 #15
The fund needs to realize how costly this is Android3.14 Jul 2014 #5
Basketball franchise? KamaAina Jul 2014 #6
A charity game. alp227 Jul 2014 #7
Donald Sterling donated to the college fund as well Android3.14 Jul 2014 #12
Koch-heads are trying to ... aggiesal Jul 2014 #8
++ what you said nt Voice for Peace Jul 2014 #18
NPR and PBS nt Voice for Peace Jul 2014 #19
As an AA, I totally support the union. underthematrix Jul 2014 #9
I remember a few years back when Glenn Beck was hyping Soros as a boogeyman... WatermelonRat Jul 2014 #10
Bad decision, IMO YarnAddict Jul 2014 #11
It would seem that way; that's the Koch Approach, appear harmless and generous, Voice for Peace Jul 2014 #20
Meh, what's a few shekels from the Devil? It's fer the kids ya know! Jake Stern Jul 2014 #24
I wonder if the young people YarnAddict Jul 2014 #27
Dirty Money father founding Jul 2014 #29
Just as an example: YarnAddict Jul 2014 #28
Actually money is not JUST money underthematrix Jul 2014 #30
AFSCME sold us out in the State of Illinois Stellar Jul 2014 #13
I betcha... ReRe Jul 2014 #17
Lottery winnings are often greater than $25 mil... the_sly_pig Jul 2014 #22
Kock is trying to untarnish it's reputation. progressoid Jul 2014 #23
What about this.... KinMd Jul 2014 #31
Accepting the gift is ok with me, elleng Jul 2014 #32

randys1

(16,286 posts)
2. I know how to resolve this, seize the entire KOCH existence and fund all colleges across the nation
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 06:40 PM
Jul 2014

tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)
3. cash the check and then tell everyone what asses the Koch's are... that'd be win/win for me
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 06:48 PM
Jul 2014

and then use the money in the best ways possible to shift the playing field of these overrich f*cks

EC

(12,287 posts)
26. Usually when the Koch's give money to universities
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 12:17 PM
Jul 2014

they ask for say over the teachers/professors in the economics departments. I'd guess they also ask for say in science depts. too. So with this I'd guess that they are asking for a say in who gets help from the fund and when a college is being discussed for scholarship then the Koch's will request a say so at that college before the college fund will give them money.

Koch's do nothing out of the kindness of their hearts...there's always a "request".

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
4. The Koches do NOT give money away for free.
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 06:53 PM
Jul 2014

They get their oily fingers in everything they can.
Dues will have to be paid.

 

greiner3

(5,214 posts)
14. Dues will have to be paid.
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 08:54 PM
Jul 2014

Sounds like the opening scenes in Godfather where Marlon Brando grants wishes, but with the understanding of a future 'payback'.

 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
15. If they can get a few more Thomas Sowell's or Herman Cains out of their investment
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 09:10 PM
Jul 2014

it will be worth much more than $25 million.

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
5. The fund needs to realize how costly this is
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 06:53 PM
Jul 2014

No donations from this end.
Besides, they make so much money from the basketball franchise.

aggiesal

(8,910 posts)
8. Koch-heads are trying to ...
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 07:15 PM
Jul 2014

control the message through every avenue.

And with there money, they're able to.

They've donated money to universities with the condition they hire conservative professors,
now they've co-opted the UNCF. What other organization have they corrupted that we don't know about?

www.movetoamend.org

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
9. As an AA, I totally support the union.
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 07:30 PM
Jul 2014

The KKKock brothers are paying people to express extreme views about the President, some of them extremely violent and inappropriate, which places the President at EXTREME RISK of harm. Everyone needs to stop supporting the United Negro College Fund until they return the $25 million to the KKKoch segregationists

WatermelonRat

(340 posts)
10. I remember a few years back when Glenn Beck was hyping Soros as a boogeyman...
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 07:43 PM
Jul 2014

I said that if I were Soros, I would make a few token donations to Republican causes and sit back to watch while the Teapartiers tore into their own. I wonder if that might have been the plan here...

 

YarnAddict

(1,850 posts)
11. Bad decision, IMO
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 07:49 PM
Jul 2014

You know who is hurt by this?? The students who could use the scholarship $$$. Why make it political? Money is moey.

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
20. It would seem that way; that's the Koch Approach, appear harmless and generous,
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 09:30 PM
Jul 2014

and once the corporation or club or college is dependent on their
money to survive, they start making demands -- who the college
can hire, and what can be taught, for example. I'm sorry I
don't have links on hand but it's well documented.

Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
24. Meh, what's a few shekels from the Devil? It's fer the kids ya know!
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 11:38 AM
Jul 2014

It will stop being political when the Koch Bros stop trying to buy everyone. Yes it's hard to pass up $$$$$ but the stink on that money should be reason enough to reject it.

 

YarnAddict

(1,850 posts)
27. I wonder if the young people
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 01:07 PM
Jul 2014

who would benefit from the funding would agree with you.

I'm not saying the Kochs are good people, by any means. But they do some good things with their money. A quick google search gave me this link:

http://www.kochfamilyfoundations.org/FoundationsDHK.asp

Hospitals, cancer research, museums, universities . . .

Whether you like their politics or not, thousands of people have likely benefited in some way, and I don't see why deserving students shouldn't, as well.

 

father founding

(619 posts)
29. Dirty Money
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 08:43 PM
Jul 2014

Should the UNCF take money from the KKK also ? Also the Koikes are trying to buy respectability.

 

YarnAddict

(1,850 posts)
28. Just as an example:
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 01:14 PM
Jul 2014

The Devos family here in Michigan (founders of Amway) are big Repubs. The son lost the governor's race big time a few years ago. And I think any pyramid sales scheme is a top level scam.

BUT, if you have a child who needs specialized medical care in western Michigan, should you refuse treatment at the Devos Children's Hospital??

I think not.

If we are going to check the provenance of every library, hospital, university building, scholarship, etc, and only patronize those whose donors' politics we agree with, we will be in a world of hurt.

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
30. Actually money is not JUST money
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 11:03 PM
Jul 2014

The KKKoch bros spend twice as much trying to take away your right to vote, women's right to choose, gay folks right to love and eventually our right to live.

Stellar

(5,644 posts)
13. AFSCME sold us out in the State of Illinois
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 08:18 PM
Jul 2014

one time too many. The union has very little power left there.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
17. I betcha...
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 09:21 PM
Jul 2014

... the UNCF lives to regret this. You couldn't find two individuals more racist than the Koch Bros.

the_sly_pig

(741 posts)
22. Lottery winnings are often greater than $25 mil...
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 11:02 PM
Jul 2014

Just sayin. The pendulum will swing back and then the support of public employees will not be there. Lousy move in my opinion.

progressoid

(49,976 posts)
23. Kock is trying to untarnish it's reputation.
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 10:28 AM
Jul 2014

Saw one of their ads on TV last night saying how great their companies are and what wonderful things they do for the world.

elleng

(130,862 posts)
32. Accepting the gift is ok with me,
Sat Jul 12, 2014, 12:42 PM
Jul 2014

that's how they survive, but appearing at one of koch's events is a step too far, imo.

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