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Mon Mar 26, 2012, 09:40 PM

Multiple suspensions paint complicated portrait of Trayvon Martin

Source: Miami Herald

In October, a school police investigator said he saw Trayvon on the school surveillance camera in an unauthorized area “hiding and being suspicious.” Then he said he saw Trayvon mark up a door with “W.T.F” — an acronym for “what the f---.” The officer said he found Trayvon the next day and went through his book bag in search of the graffiti marker.

Instead the officer reported he found women’s jewelry and a screwdriver that he described as a “burglary tool,” according to a Miami-Dade Schools Police report obtained by The Miami Herald. Word of the incident came as the family’s lawyer acknowledged that the boy was suspended in February for getting caught with an empty bag with traces of marijuana, which he called “irrelevant” and an attempt to demonize a victim.

Trayvon’s backpack contained 12 pieces of jewelry, in addition to a watch and a large flathead screwdriver, according to the report, which described silver wedding bands and earrings with diamonds.

Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/26/2714778/thousands-expected-at-trayvon.html



Wow... well no matter what you think of it be prepared for a crap storm about this tomorrow.

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Reply Multiple suspensions paint complicated portrait of Trayvon Martin (Original post)
Kurska Mar 2012 OP
Kalidurga Mar 2012 #1
Kurska Mar 2012 #3
qanda Mar 2012 #6
Kurska Mar 2012 #16
joeglow3 Mar 2012 #24
qanda Mar 2012 #29
EFerrari Mar 2012 #12
JDPriestly Mar 2012 #15
caseymoz Mar 2012 #17
Surya Gayatri Mar 2012 #19
erpowers Mar 2012 #30
PSPS Mar 2012 #11
Beartracks Mar 2012 #2
Grassy Knoll Mar 2012 #4
Blue_Tires Mar 2012 #25
safeinOhio Mar 2012 #5
MD20 Mar 2012 #10
kestrel91316 Mar 2012 #7
DianaForRussFeingold Mar 2012 #8
joshcryer Mar 2012 #9
Joseph8th Mar 2012 #13
left is right Mar 2012 #14
Judi Lynn Mar 2012 #18
dipsydoodle Mar 2012 #20
Blue_Tires Mar 2012 #27
Post removed Mar 2012 #21
Adenoid_Hynkel Mar 2012 #22
marble falls Mar 2012 #23
yurbud Mar 2012 #26
marble falls Mar 2012 #28
Marrah_G Mar 2012 #31
Hawkowl Mar 2012 #32

Response to Kurska (Original post)

Mon Mar 26, 2012, 09:43 PM

1. Funny I didn't see anything there that warranted capital punishment nt

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Response to Kalidurga (Reply #1)

Mon Mar 26, 2012, 09:47 PM

3. Devils Advocate: It is relevant because it adds plausibility to Zimmerman's story.

Zimmerman's story did not pass the initial smell test because why would some kid attack a man for following him. However, assuming this is true and there is no conclusive evidence of that, Martin would have had an extensive history of theft, drugs and vandalism. That sort of makes it slightly more likely that Zimmerman was telling the truth about being attacked.

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Response to Kurska (Reply #3)

Mon Mar 26, 2012, 10:24 PM

6. Did Trayvon pull him out of his car?

Then how in the world does Zimmerman have self-defense as an excuse? The boy is dead and now is on trial for his life-- well, it's too late! Trayvon already met his judge, jury and executioner in the form of George Zimmerman.

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Response to qanda (Reply #6)

Tue Mar 27, 2012, 01:19 AM

16. Hey don't shoot the devil's advocate.

Goes for the other responses, I'm just trying to craft an argument in response to a question.

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Response to qanda (Reply #6)

Tue Mar 27, 2012, 08:20 AM

24. And that damn rape victim should not have been wearing that outfit

 

I have no clue what happened and will wait until all facts are out before saying what happened. While I have my thoughts, "he had it coming because he got out of his car" certainly will never be one of them.

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Response to joeglow3 (Reply #24)

Tue Mar 27, 2012, 11:51 AM

29. I don't even know what you're talking about

Nobody ever said that he had it coming because he got out of his car-- the man is alive and well. The only one dead is the person who was minding their own business.

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Response to Kurska (Reply #3)

Mon Mar 26, 2012, 11:35 PM

12. No, it doesn't. n/t

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Response to Kurska (Reply #3)

Tue Mar 27, 2012, 01:04 AM

15. Why does it make an attack by Trayvon more likely?

Zimmerman's 911 call is pretty clear. Trayvon came toward him then ran away.

When Zimmerman made the call, he said he was near the recreation center. Trayvon died halfway between the recreation center and the house toward with he was headed. This strongly suggests that Trayvon was running away and that Zimmerman followed.

This is the most likely chain of events, and it supports the idea that Zimmerman followed and attacked Trayvon.

That jewelry and a screwdriver were found in Trayvon's schoolbag is not relevant to what happened on the night that Trayvon died. Zimmerman had no knowledge of who Trayvon was or what had happened to Trayvon at school.

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Response to Kurska (Reply #3)

Tue Mar 27, 2012, 01:30 AM

17. You can't get from graffiti five months earlier


. . . to assault and battery. They're not connected, nor are they correlated. You can't make that jump.

They'll try to make a big thing of this. It will fail.

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Response to Kurska (Reply #3)

Tue Mar 27, 2012, 03:42 AM

19. Whoops! I'm afraid your agenda is showing...

 

An "extensive history of theft, drugs and vandalism"?

Hum, interesting extrapolation from one minor graffitti incident, an empty dime bag and mere rumors of some jewellery and a screw driver in a backpack...

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Response to Kurska (Reply #3)

Tue Mar 27, 2012, 12:56 PM

30. Stll Irrelevant

Trayvon Martin's past is still irrelevant. George Zimmerman had no reason to follow Martin. Zimmerman did not know Martin or about his school issues.

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Response to Kalidurga (Reply #1)

Mon Mar 26, 2012, 11:32 PM

11. There isn't only because the excerpted piece leaves out the relevant part -- being black in Sanford.

Sadly, that seems to be a capital offense in Sanford.

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Response to Kurska (Original post)

Mon Mar 26, 2012, 09:46 PM

2. Why haven't they arrested Martin and put him on trial yet???!???

What? Martin was the VICTIM?? Kinda hard to tell.


Oh, and

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Response to Kurska (Original post)

Mon Mar 26, 2012, 10:04 PM

4. Wow, the next thing they will report is..

that Trayvon took the gun from Zimmerman, and committed suicide, and the backfire from the gun
gave Mr. Z a bloody nose trying to stop him.

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Response to Grassy Knoll (Reply #4)

Tue Mar 27, 2012, 08:29 AM

25. Yeah, give them another 36 hours and we'll see something more outrageous printed

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Response to Kurska (Original post)

Mon Mar 26, 2012, 10:19 PM

5. Does the story say anything about

Zimmerman's arrest for violence. The first pictures of him were mug shots. What was it? Stalking an ex, hitting a cop?

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Response to safeinOhio (Reply #5)

Mon Mar 26, 2012, 11:12 PM

10. Zimmerman's violent past lends credence to

 

the notion that he acted characteristically by doing something to provoke Trayvon, such as shoving him.

Trayvon has no known history of violence; so, any indication of it in this case would indicate something
extra-ordinary happened. As the initiator of violence in all reported cases involving Zimmeran, his record suggests
he stared the fight with Martin.

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Response to Kurska (Original post)

Mon Mar 26, 2012, 10:31 PM

7. When you have something about Trayvon being a violent person

 

like Zimmerman, come talk to me. Until then, this is just irrelevant nonsense.

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Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #7)

Mon Mar 26, 2012, 10:54 PM

8. Exactly..!

I feel so bad for his parents...

Also,I feel it's only fitting to bring this up:
Trayvon pulled his dad from a fire--He was a HERO at nine years old...

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Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #7)

Mon Mar 26, 2012, 11:03 PM

9. Exactly. This reminds me of the DSK case all over again.

Character assassination on the victim.

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Response to Kurska (Original post)

Mon Mar 26, 2012, 11:46 PM

13. More reprehensible character assassination ...

 

... that is ENTIRELY BESIDE THE POINT.

Time to take the kid gloves off, folks. Time to smear this Zimmerman fuck and everyone who supports him into the ground like the nasty little bug he is.

Fuck it. The right projects their evil fantasia onto us anyway. Might as well be guilty of the crime we're accused of.

I personally have footage of Zimmerman f***ing a horse's left nostril.

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Response to Kurska (Original post)

Mon Mar 26, 2012, 11:52 PM

14. English teacher described him as "an A and B student who majored in cheerfulness."

I find it hard to believe that his teacher and the Miami Herald’s article are describing the same person

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Response to left is right (Reply #14)

Tue Mar 27, 2012, 02:16 AM

18. I would imagine most people would feel driven to believe his teacher, bound to know him better

than some pathetic unprincipled right-wingers working desperately to smear this young man after his murder.

Thanks for giving some dignity to a thread which had been an attempted flying leap at misinformation, distortion, and treachery toward someone none of them ever knew.

After this event has been well considered, the teacher's comments will be remembered far, far longer than the nasty backstabbing dishonest attempts made to highjack the actual truth of the matter by racist, rabid right-wingers.

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Response to Kurska (Original post)

Tue Mar 27, 2012, 05:01 AM

20. Trayvon Martin family criticizes info leaks

SANFORD, Fla. (AP) -- The parents of a slain Florida teenager are blaming police for leaking information about their son being suspended for marijuana and details about the fight he had with the shooter that portrayed the teen as the aggressor.

Trayvon Martin's mother, Sybrina Fulton, and family attorneys said Monday that it was part of an effort to demonize her 17-year-old son who was shot and killed last month by neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman.

"They killed my son and now they're trying to kill his reputation," Fulton told reporters.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_NEIGHBORHOOD_WATCH_DEATH?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-03-27-03-32-48

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Response to dipsydoodle (Reply #20)

Tue Mar 27, 2012, 11:29 AM

27. The ULTIMATE irony is

if they spent a fraction of the time actually investigating what happened that night instead of digging for dirt unrelated to the case, we would have resolution already...

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Response to Kurska (Original post)

Tue Mar 27, 2012, 07:54 AM

23. Smear. And if true, so what?

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Response to marble falls (Reply #23)

Tue Mar 27, 2012, 11:23 AM

26. I didn't read anything in that that merited summary execution by a racist mental patient.

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Response to yurbud (Reply #26)

Tue Mar 27, 2012, 11:43 AM

28. and niether do I and smearing Trayvon doesn't change that, ....

you and I agree. That Zimmerman isn't a mental patient yet doesn't change it either. Sane or insane, legally or illegally Trayvon did not merit being shot in the street by anybody. This "stand your ground" is a law that makes the illegal legal.

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Response to Kurska (Original post)

Tue Mar 27, 2012, 01:30 PM

31. Not one of these things has anything to do with his death

Zimmerman knew NOTHING about him except that he was young and black, making him a "threat". Now people are doing back flips to prove that the young black man was a criminal and somehow deserved to die.

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Response to Kurska (Original post)

Tue Mar 27, 2012, 02:13 PM

32. He did NOTHING wrong--Zimmerman violated his civil rights

 

Burglary tool? It's a fucking screwdriver. It's not illegal to carry a screwdriver. Neither is it illegal to carry jewelry. An empty bag with mj "residue"? There is no crime nor penalty for an immeasurable residue.

This is the biggest post mortem lynching I have ever seen in my lifetime.

Regardless if Zimmerman is brought up on state murder charges, he should be indicted on violating Trayvon's civil rights. This is precisely what these federal laws were intended.

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