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Sun May 11, 2014, 02:21 PM

 

Feds seek prison for rural Washington pot growers

Source: AP

SPOKANE, Wash. (AP) — The green-cross storefronts of medical marijuana dispensaries are common in much of Washington, and the state is plowing ahead with licensing people to grow and sell recreational pot to adults.

But a federal trial scheduled to begin in the coming weeks for five people in Spokane suggests not all is OK with weed in the state.

Larry Harvey, a 70-year-old medical marijuana patient with no criminal history, three of his relatives and a family friend each face mandatory minimum sentences of at least 10 years in prison after they were caught growing about 70 pot plants on their rural, mountainous property.

The Harveys did have guns at their home, which is part of the reason for the lengthy possible prison time. They say the weapons were for hunting and protection, but prosecutors say two of the guns were loaded and in the same room as a blue plastic tub of pot.

Medical marijuana advocates have cried foul, arguing the prosecution violates Department of Justice policies announced by Attorney General Eric Holder last year that nonviolent, small-time drug offenders shouldn't face lengthy prison sentences.


Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/feds-seek-prison-rural-washington-pot-growers-163636772.html



Another contradiction between the words and deeds of Eric Holder.

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Reply Feds seek prison for rural Washington pot growers (Original post)
firesalesman May 2014 OP
Ed Suspicious May 2014 #1
Jesus Malverde May 2014 #11
pscot May 2014 #22
warrant46 May 2014 #25
NBachers May 2014 #27
firesalesman May 2014 #35
liberal N proud May 2014 #2
Enthusiast May 2014 #9
Bigmack May 2014 #21
Doctor_J May 2014 #3
Enthusiast May 2014 #10
1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #12
Enthusiast May 2014 #13
Doctor_J May 2014 #15
1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #16
NobodyHere May 2014 #18
1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #29
billhicks76 May 2014 #36
rhett o rick May 2014 #28
fredamae May 2014 #4
Doctor_J May 2014 #17
heaven05 May 2014 #5
rhett o rick May 2014 #6
warrant46 May 2014 #26
psychopomp May 2014 #31
rhett o rick May 2014 #32
psychopomp May 2014 #33
rhett o rick May 2014 #34
Comrade Grumpy May 2014 #7
jtuck004 May 2014 #8
mwrguy May 2014 #14
wildbilln864 May 2014 #19
Doctor_J May 2014 #23
wildbilln864 May 2014 #20
atreides1 May 2014 #24
Sunlei May 2014 #30
Locrian May 2014 #37
Warren Stupidity May 2014 #38
Doctor_J May 2014 #39
Warren Stupidity May 2014 #40
Sunlei Sep 2014 #41


Response to Ed Suspicious (Reply #1)

Sun May 11, 2014, 05:08 PM

11. Its not just the cartels, the key is the cartels working with the banks...nt

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Response to Jesus Malverde (Reply #11)

Sun May 11, 2014, 06:46 PM

22. And the "justice" system that completes

the unholy triumvirate.

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Response to pscot (Reply #22)

Sun May 11, 2014, 08:55 PM

25. It's just Holder up to his usual antics

He is totally and completely useless, but he does follow orders exquisitely.

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Response to warrant46 (Reply #25)

Sun May 11, 2014, 09:43 PM

27. Eric "Lost" Holder

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Response to NBachers (Reply #27)

Mon May 12, 2014, 12:42 AM

35. +1 nt

 

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Response to firesalesman (Original post)

Sun May 11, 2014, 02:48 PM

2. While the let executives of financial institutions who robbed billions of Americans money go free

Destroy the lives of many OK, grow a weed, not so much.

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Response to liberal N proud (Reply #2)

Sun May 11, 2014, 04:07 PM

9. +1! It's corruption from sea to shining sea. And some are fine with that.

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Response to liberal N proud (Reply #2)

Sun May 11, 2014, 06:33 PM

21. Yup…….TOTALLY agree…. nt Ms Bigmack

 

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Response to firesalesman (Original post)

Sun May 11, 2014, 02:51 PM

3. Between Holder and Arne Duncan and the FCC Net Neutrality declaration

 

and the Walmart debacle this week, I have to believe the administration is hoping for a Republican Senate next year. They can't be this incompetent.

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Response to Doctor_J (Reply #3)

Sun May 11, 2014, 04:10 PM

10. It would be in line with my prediction.

Sorry to say it. I got this same distinct feeling leading up to the 2010 election. Repeatedly slap your base in the face, sit back and watch the other party dominate on turnout.

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Response to Enthusiast (Reply #10)

Sun May 11, 2014, 05:22 PM

12. How much of the "Democratic base" ...

 

Really give much more than a passing thought regarding legalization of weed?

I suspect, not much.

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #12)

Sun May 11, 2014, 05:41 PM

13. It's not the weed.

It's the hypocrisy. The weed is legal in Washington. The fed seeks to prosecute them while ignoring financial crimes that brought down the world economy.

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Response to Enthusiast (Reply #13)

Sun May 11, 2014, 05:53 PM

15. To the millions who swept Dems into office in 2008 because they were sick of misplaced priorities

 

this, and the things I mentioned upthread, and a host of others, are extremely discouraging.

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Response to Enthusiast (Reply #13)

Sun May 11, 2014, 05:53 PM

16. Yeah, Ok. eom.

 

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Response to Enthusiast (Reply #13)

Sun May 11, 2014, 06:07 PM

18. A minor point

 

But growing that much weed is not legal in Washington

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Response to NobodyHere (Reply #18)

Sun May 11, 2014, 11:55 PM

29. But that doesn't matter . eom

 

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #12)

Mon May 12, 2014, 01:14 AM

36. WRONG!!!!

 

It was the number one question asked to be addressed by citizens on Obamas interactive website. In fact the top 3 questions were regarding marijuana for years and Obama said he would address issues with that many comments but consistently ignored marijuana's status as if it didn't count. More hypocrisy.

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Response to Doctor_J (Reply #3)

Sun May 11, 2014, 10:35 PM

28. They arent incompetent. They work for the corporations and what can we do about it? nm

 

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Response to firesalesman (Original post)

Sun May 11, 2014, 03:14 PM

4. This couldn't be more wrong

Unfortunately, this investigation began before the Cole Memo.
"They" aren't gonna let this go because of that, no matter what it costs tax payers and no matter the will of the majority, no matter the moral failure of enforcing these laws that we the people, by majority-do Not want enforced.
There has already been thousands (hundreds of thousands?) spent building this case against an entire family but wait until they go to prison for - likely years - at $3000.00 per head per month to keep them behind bars Plus the extra medical care they're going to need while behind bars and for what? What danger did they pose to their community?

The main thing we must do, together-is get Cannabis totally removed from the Federal CSA-and let the states decide.

This is a nearly 80 years old unjust set of laws, rules and policies that have Only benefitted corporate interests. Period.
Nearly $2,000,000,000,000.00 wasted since Nixon-and Millions of Lives lost and/or ruined due to these draconian laws all over an efficacious botanical medicine.
Personally-I'm going to appeal to their US congresscritters on their behalf to end this bs.

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Response to fredamae (Reply #4)

Sun May 11, 2014, 05:56 PM

17. uh-oh. I think you figured it out

 

set of laws, rules and policies that have Only benefited corporate interests.


Can you think of any laws in the last generation that haven't???

Legalized pot would destroy the market for Oxy and all sorts of cash cows. Big Pharma had a hand in passing Heritage Care. I wonder if this is some quid pro quo.

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Response to firesalesman (Original post)

Sun May 11, 2014, 03:20 PM

5. hey feds,holder!!!!!!

 

leave them the hell alone.!!!!!!!! God, what dummies. Political clowns. Damn!!!!

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Response to firesalesman (Original post)

Sun May 11, 2014, 03:21 PM

6. I would love to hear the justification for this. nm

 

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #6)

Sun May 11, 2014, 08:57 PM

26. Its simply one assclown attempting to OutDo

another AssClown

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #6)

Mon May 12, 2014, 12:22 AM

31. It's in the article...there was a loaded gun in a room with the cannabis

The problem that Holder has is that the loaded gun along with the plants is on par with narcotrafficking.

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Response to psychopomp (Reply #31)

Mon May 12, 2014, 12:24 AM

32. First of all why did they get raided? Did they know about the gun? Second, is "on par" some

 

kind of new legal language? Holder is spending way too much time persecuting the 99% and way to little on the 1%.

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #32)

Mon May 12, 2014, 12:27 AM

33. Oh, more questions. Okay.

1. I don't know.
2. I am not a lawyer.

It is clearly stated in the article that the elderly gentleman in question is looking at a stiff prison term because of the loaded guns in the room with a pot plant.

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Response to psychopomp (Reply #33)

Mon May 12, 2014, 12:31 AM

34. As I previously stated, I would love to hear the justification. Iam not saying there isnt any,

 

I just havent heard it.

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Response to firesalesman (Original post)

Sun May 11, 2014, 03:28 PM

7. This case is a travesty. It doesn't fit in the federal guidelines for medical marijuana prosecutions

 

I don't understand why the US Attorney in Spokane is prosecuting this.

They were legal under the state law, and the feds have said they would generally leave law-abiding medical marijuana people alone.

And, although they are accusing of growing medical marijuana, they have been denied the right to use that in their defense. It's fucking Kafkaesque.

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Response to Comrade Grumpy (Reply #7)

Sun May 11, 2014, 03:36 PM

8. Spokane is a LOT redder and whiter than the rest of the state.

 

But it makes sense. There are meth heads running all over the place stealing like mad, but they fight back like mad ranchers. Sick people, especially those using MMJ don't fight back so hard, and the authorities here are a little cowardly, so they prefer to beat up on sick people, shoot old ones.

But the conservative point of view is pretty strong, so they all take in in stride, because it is almost alway happening to someone else who probably deserved it.

This is the place, between here and Coeur d'Alene, ID where they beat, imprisoned, tortured, and killed IWW workers for trying to stand on boxes and speak against thieving temporary work shops, (as if 1st amendment rights existed here, lol) so it's not surprising.

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Response to firesalesman (Original post)

Sun May 11, 2014, 05:52 PM

14. Obama needs to have a talk with Holder

This is not good.

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Response to mwrguy (Reply #14)

Sun May 11, 2014, 06:30 PM

19. sadly Obama won't do shit!

 

other than look forward. He's been a major disappointment since I voted for him.

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Response to mwrguy (Reply #14)

Sun May 11, 2014, 06:47 PM

23. And Wheeler. And Duncan.

 

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Response to firesalesman (Original post)

Sun May 11, 2014, 06:31 PM

20. Hope they get a jury trial...

 

and the jury is well educated about jury nullification.

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Response to firesalesman (Original post)

Sun May 11, 2014, 08:41 PM

24. This is how capable Holder really is!

Yet Bundy and the cheating bankers...Holder won't even look at them...the man is a complete waste of space!!!

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Response to firesalesman (Original post)

Mon May 12, 2014, 12:06 AM

30. mandatory minimum sentences of at least 10 years? destroy an entire family & the elders will die!

private 'for profit' prisons love their profitable "mandatory minimum sentences"

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Response to firesalesman (Original post)

Mon May 12, 2014, 06:59 AM

37. guns? huh, maybe they need to get some cows and let them graze - n/t

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Response to firesalesman (Original post)

Mon May 12, 2014, 07:52 AM

38. wont anyone step up to defend this crap?

 

how can we have a jolly argument if nobody steps up?

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Response to Warren Stupidity (Reply #38)

Mon May 12, 2014, 10:19 AM

39. 1SBM jumped up

 

Reply 12

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Response to Doctor_J (Reply #39)

Mon May 12, 2014, 11:10 AM

40. Finally.

 

This place would be boring if nobody defends craven idiocy.

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Response to firesalesman (Original post)

Fri Sep 26, 2014, 01:23 PM

41. local police team-up with the Feds and they split any seizure of cash & property.

Your States, local police & Federal police assist each other in many counties to spot & take out growers. Tack on the extra charges when any gun is in the home. The States are responsible for those laws & their local police.

We will see much more extra criminal charges with the new medical marijuana & pot growing license regulations



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