Alaska GOP er Apologizes for Calling Breastfeading ..Smart and Sexy
Source: Talking Points Memo
April 15, 2014, 7:22 PM EDT
An Alaska Republican state lawmaker apologized after calling breastfeeding "smart and sexy" in a press release publicizing her resolution.
The Republican House majority sent out a press release Monday titled "Smart and Sexy: Legislature Encourages Hospitals to Promote Breastfeeding," according to political blogger Amanda Coyne.
On Tuesday, Rep. Shelley Hughes (R) issued an apology for the press release, according to the Huffington Post.
"My intent was to draw attention to this incredibly important issue. Unfortunately, this is not the kind of attention I hoped to receive. I take full responsibility for the headline. I apologize for the poor choice of words, and am sorry if I offended anyone," she said in a statement.
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leftyohiolib
(5,917 posts)what arethe complaints about
mainer
(12,022 posts)I don't know why she felt she had to apologize.
leftyohiolib
(5,917 posts)so riled up. it must be the sexy thing
dotymed
(5,610 posts)Breastfeeding is sexy? IMO, that must be a specific fetish.
It is a natural, healthy, child helpful activity not a porn move (mostly).
My 3 daughters breast fed until they could no longer afford to miss work or find time to pump.
In "our country" that is not near long enough. Most 1st world nations have PAID, long-term maternity leave. Of course in 'murica you have to be a Koch to miss work.
Sexy? I am a man, I remember when my Aunts breast fed, in public (with a child blanket helping their modesty) and even as a young, hormonal, straight guy, I never thought it was "sexy."
I know that many Democratic pols aren't far behind their GOP counter-parts in self centered thinking and greed, but "sexy?"
on edit- "My intent was to draw attention to this incredibly important issue. Unfortunately, this is not the kind of attention I hoped to receive. I take full responsibility for the headline. I apologize for the poor choice of words, and am sorry if I offended anyone," she said in a statement.
BULLSHIT! Her ONLY intent was for this kind of attention. What a twisted bunch these "CONSERVATIVE" idiots are. Do they get turned on in the Gerber isle at the store?
Stuart G
(38,414 posts)From what I understand, (and I have not deeply studied this)
Breastfeeding is one of the most natural things for a mom to do. (if not the most natural thing)
Moms of all kinds do it. last time I checked..
dotymed
(5,610 posts)to be an "ass man."
merrily
(45,251 posts)men find bare asses sexy?
dotymed
(5,610 posts)not the contents. Thanks though.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Women should defecate because doing anything else would be very bad for their health, not because their bare asses turn men on or off.
Similarly, women should breast feed because it is healthier for their babies (maybe their own, too, but that is secondary) and their relationship with their babies, not because the sight (or hint) of a bare breast may turn on a male.
Her statement was so beyond stupid that it would not be much of a leap for her to say what I suggested.
dotymed
(5,610 posts)These people can't become our leaders or representatives because we actually voted for them unless we have already become
"IDIOCRACY part II."
IMO, we must immediately implement "the Thomas Jefferson Solution" hopefully w/out the actual blood part.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Always have. Thank heaven there is finally a backlash.
John Adams fought against continuing slavery after ratification of the Constitution. Obviously, he lost that battle. However, when his wife urged him, "Don't forget women, John," he refused even to pretend to her that he would try.
NickB79
(19,233 posts)Similar to the way that a pregnant woman has a "glow" to her. It's not the exposed breasts themselves of a woman breastfeeding, but the visual image of a woman caring for her child that's sexy. I've heard the same from women about seeing dads playing with their toddlers; being a good parent can be the sexiest thing in the world. It makes sense from an evolutionary standpoint that we would be drawn to those with proven child-rearing skills as potential mates.
merrily
(45,251 posts)to the assumption that the speaker was a male.
My sincere apologies to every male on this board. Well, almost every male on this board.
Arkansas Granny
(31,513 posts)Come to think of it, I don't recall ever hearing a man refer to it that way, either.
merrily
(45,251 posts)her baby. Not even 50 millionth on the list of reasons to breast feed. You breast feed because of your baby's health and well-being, not because of any reaction spectators may have.
Besides, when are we going to get past the idea that women should make important choices based on whether said choices will allegedly increase or decrease their sex appeal to men?
I don't think American women have been breast feeding relatively openly for very long. Yet the population has expanded greatly since the 1600s, even in one of the most puritannical countries on the planet. I guess American men found us sexy enough, even if they didn't see us breastfeeding. Whether we wanted them to or not.
When we have a population shortage, I may recommend that men and women live their lives according to what their sex partners find physically sexy. Until then, let's just try to evolve into better people.
Don't mind me. I am still gritting my teeth.
leftyohiolib
(5,917 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)Fact is, we all make judgments all the time. It's how we stay alive and hopefully keep from getting conned, etc. Saying you disagreed with me would not have been judgmental, but you did not reply with the non-judgmental option. You chose to judge. But I won't judge you for it, since, as I said, we all judge all the time.
leftyohiolib
(5,917 posts)personal lifestyle, you dont like it so you label the people who may, a pervert.
it is not the same kind of judging as the kind you would use to determine if you can cross the street and not get hit. you are conflating 2 unlike things but A for effort
merrily
(45,251 posts)"Forty two words" is an observation. "Too long" is a judgment."
So is "not nice." Name calling, is an observation as "perve" is certainly a name, but "not nice" is definitely a judgment.
For my part, I did not direct the word "perve" at any individual, nor did I expect it to apply to any DUer. I used the term as an offhand response to another post and on my way to making an entirely different point. You, on the other hand, directed "not nice" at my post and making negative judgments about my post was the only point of your entire reply. So, I judge that your characterizing my statement as "not nice" was more "not nice" than my using the word "perve" about no one specific.
it is not the same kind of judging as the kind you would use to determine if you can cross the street and not get hit. you are conflating 2 unlike things.
I never said it was exactly the same kind of judgment as using the word "perve," nor did I ever equate the two.
I said only that we judged all the time and had to, in order to survive, avoid being conned, etc. I gave the red light only one example of our need to judge to stay alive. I never equated stopping for a red light with characterizing a behavior as pervy, or even so much as hinted that using the term "pervy" was necessary for my survival, so both your comment about conflating and your snark were misplaced.
"Red light" is an observation. "Dangerous" is a judgment that we make about ignoring a red light, a judgment based on experience, knowledge, bias and host of other things. So is "con artist," my other stated example.
"Heartbreaker" is another judgement. So are "handsome, "generous" "nice," etc. So is "ugly," "stingy" and, yes, "not nice."
My point was never that all those things are alike. My point was stated, namely that we all judge often and, in my opinion, we learned to judge a lot do that because we have had to make so many judgments to keep ourselves physically, emotionally and financially safe. (By we, I meant us as individuals, but it may be hard-wired at this point, because our remote ancestors certainly had to do it for survival of the species.
Analogies are not exact or they would not be analogies, but, again, I did not ever put stopping for a red light and using the term perve in the same category, other than the broad category of judgments.
As I have said, I don't think anything is wrong with making judgments. However, being able to distinguish between making an observation of something that is actually observable--like a sunset or a bushel of potatoes--and when we are making a judgment would be a very good thing.
By the way, a couple of posters upthread, males apparently, called finding breastfeeding sexy "absurd" and "a very specific fetish," implying that people who thought that way were "sickos." Their comments were much more targeted and direct, than my saying "Even if some perves find breastfeeding sexy," then continuing on with a post that had nothing further to say on that subject. I find it interesting that you read right past their comments and chose to focus on mine, which was a lot more about women's self determination that anything else.
It is my judgment that both this post of mine and the entire discussion between us have gone on way too long So, I am out.
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Psephos
(8,032 posts)AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)It seemed like a solid guess at the time.
merrily
(45,251 posts)The only reason I knee jerked was a negative stereotype of men, or a positive stereotype of women. So, I apologized to the men. I should have apologized to everyone, though. Stereotypes of any kind, negative or positive, are bad for all of us. I honestly thought I had none. Guess I was wrong.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)Can't escape it. Gets confirmed all the damn time.
merrily
(45,251 posts)I do think that Democratic males, as a group, tend in general to know better. But they are not perfect. Beyond that, every Republican male is not a total ass about gender issues in general or breastfeeding in particular. So, I never thought Democrat or Republican. I thought male, full stop.
Scruffy Rumbler
(961 posts)I thought for sure this was going to be some guy!
Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)until she qualified it...
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)She never apologized for being a total jerk.
Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)so we are doing well when then they admit they did wrong.
But she blew it when she qualified the apology.
merrily
(45,251 posts)My being offended (or not) is something that results from my own head, personality, etc. She has no accountability for that whatever. She has accountablity only for her behavior, not for my reactions. She may as well have said, "I am sorry so many of you are so unreasonably thin-skinned and insecure."
The non-apology has been developed on the theory that politicians and other famous people should appear contrite and empathetic, while not admitting much, if anything. Also on the theory that most people won't notice the difference between, "I am sorry that my thinking is so wacky and backward" and "I'm sorry you chose to take offense at what I said."
Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)as soon as the qualifier "if" was added, it was no longer an apology.
I did a whole essay on "Rules for Apologizing" back in 2008.
I am sorry if I offended anyone.
I am sorry if you were offended.
I am sorry to those I offended.
I am sorry you found my remarks offensive
All of these statements are conditional and are not admission is error, nor true regret. In essence, the person is stating that they are only sorry under a certain circumstance, and/or to a certain group of people. A person making an offensive statement or committing an offensive action has wronged the PUBLIC, not just a specific group (though they may have done that as well). Either your statement/action was offensive, or it wasn't. If it wasn't, then why are you apologizing? If it was, why are you equivocating and trying to "limit" your regret.
Other words likely to invalidate an apology are "may", "might", "could", and "but". Also, beware use of the passive voice and sudden shifts into the third person.
merrily
(45,251 posts)My point was that her apology was never going well because it was never an apology.
Orsino
(37,428 posts)We know she didn't write it, much less even read it before it went out. Is she covering for her lack of engagement?
cbdo2007
(9,213 posts)Seeing her be a Mom is one of the sexiest things about her.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Supposedly, Elvis Presley lost interest in having sex in Priscilla after she gave birth. That is not the only instance I've heard of.
So, the remark was stupid in every possible way.
WovenGems
(776 posts)One needs to think of the motivation behind the writing of that headline. I think Republicans think breastfeeding is an act of sex and meant to make their base happy that they think like them. And then on second thought they decided to make the point it is a health issue. But too late.
merrily
(45,251 posts)both participants, and therefore for the survival of the baby.
Ash_F
(5,861 posts)As in definition number 2 from urban dictionary:
Supposed to mean sexually attractive, however recently it has become a word of ambiguous meaning that morons use when unable to think of a better adjective for something they like.
Woooaaahh!!!! See that PSP? That is sexy!
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=sexy&page=4
Chemisse
(30,807 posts)Some women don't breastfeed because they can't get past the idea that breasts are sex objects, making nursing a baby 'disgusting'.
This woman's comment seems out of place in a discussion about feeding a baby in the most healthy and natural way possible. Not a huge deal, but strange nonetheless.
CFLDem
(2,083 posts)As long as sexy is defined as a woman feeling confident about her body, and not about showing off for men, I don't really see any problem with it.