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Sun Apr 13, 2014, 10:43 PM

Frazier Glenn Miller, Longtime Anti-Semite, Arrested in Kansas Jewish Community Center Murders

Source: SPLC

By Heidi Beirich on April 13, 2014 - 8:41 pm

Frazier Glenn Miller, 73, of Aurora, Mo., was arrested today for the murder of three people at two separate Jewish Community Centers in Overland Park, Kan. Miller, who was arrested using the alias Frazier Glenn Cross, has been in the movement nearly his entire life. Miller is the former “grand dragon” of the Carolina Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, which he founded and ran in the 1980s before being sued by the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) for operating an illegal paramilitary organization and using intimidation tactics against African Americans.

After subsequently forming another Klan group, the White Patriot Party, he was found in criminal contempt and sentenced to six months in prison for violating the court settlement. He went underground while his conviction was under appeal but was caught by the FBI with a weapons cache in Missouri. He served three years in federal prison after being indicted on weapons charges and for plotting robberies and the assassination of SPLC founder Morris Dees. As part of a plea bargain, Miller testified against other Klan leaders in a 1988 sedition trial.

Miller is a raging anti-Semite who has posted more than 12,000 times on Vanguard News Network (VNN), whose slogan is “No Jews, Just Right.” VNN founder Alex Linder has openly advocated “exterminating” Jews since December 2009. Miller, a close partner to Linder, has called Jews “swarthy, hairy, bow-legged, beady-eyed, parasitic midgets.” Miller is also one of VNN’s largest donors and he printed and distributed thousands of copies of VNN’s newsletter, The Aryan Alternative.

This isn’t the first time a VNN user has been arrested for violence. On January 17, 2011, less than 12 hours after posting on VNN, Kevin William Harpham placed an improvised explosive device concealed in a backpack along a Martin Luther King parade route in Spokane Washington. The lead sinkers in the radio-detonated IED were coated with Warfarin rat poison, evidently intended to increase bleeding. Had the device functioned, dozens of men, women and children would have been killed or injured. Harpham also distributed The Aryan Alternative.





Read more: http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2014/04/13/frazier-glenn-miller-longtime-anti-semite-arrested-in-kansas-jewish-community-center-murders/



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Reply Frazier Glenn Miller, Longtime Anti-Semite, Arrested in Kansas Jewish Community Center Murders (Original post)
DonViejo Apr 2014 OP
Laurian Apr 2014 #1
840high Apr 2014 #2
longship Apr 2014 #6
longship Apr 2014 #3
LarryNM Apr 2014 #4
kelliekat44 Apr 2014 #5
McCamy Taylor Apr 2014 #18
Jgarrick Apr 2014 #7
Corey_Baker08 Apr 2014 #8
PasadenaTrudy Apr 2014 #9
frazzled Apr 2014 #10
Corey_Baker08 Apr 2014 #12
frazzled Apr 2014 #11
The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2014 #13
frazzled Apr 2014 #14
mountain grammy Apr 2014 #19
Judi Lynn Apr 2014 #15
bluestateguy Apr 2014 #16
Mosby Apr 2014 #32
McCamy Taylor Apr 2014 #17
Cali_Democrat Apr 2014 #20
certainot Apr 2014 #21
azurnoir Apr 2014 #22
countryjake Apr 2014 #26
SeattleVet Apr 2014 #33
countryjake Apr 2014 #35
Behind the Aegis Apr 2014 #38
JDPriestly Apr 2014 #23
OldRedneck Apr 2014 #24
louis-t Apr 2014 #31
JI7 Apr 2014 #37
Behind the Aegis Apr 2014 #39
JI7 Apr 2014 #42
Behind the Aegis Apr 2014 #43
Ecumenist Apr 2014 #25
exboyfil Apr 2014 #28
OKNancy Apr 2014 #27
Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #29
Stratosgc Apr 2014 #30
brooklynite Apr 2014 #34
LeftishBrit Apr 2014 #36
Behind the Aegis Apr 2014 #40
Ecumenist Apr 2014 #49
Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #41
countryjake Apr 2014 #44
Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #45
NickB79 Apr 2014 #46
Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #47
NickB79 Apr 2014 #50
Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #51
countryjake Apr 2014 #48

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Apr 13, 2014, 10:49 PM

1. What a vile animal. Just amazing

that he had access to guns. Hateful, ignorance abounds.

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Response to Laurian (Reply #1)

Sun Apr 13, 2014, 10:53 PM

2. May he rot in jail.

 

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Response to 840high (Reply #2)

Sun Apr 13, 2014, 11:10 PM

6. Kansas has had the DP for a few years.

But has yet to sentence anybody under it.

I briefly knew Joan Finney, the Democratic governor who let the death penalty bill pass into law without her signature. I begged her to veto it and she told me to my face that she could not do that. It went into law shortly after that meeting at the state Dem convention.

She was a Catholic pro-life Democrat. I just do not understand people's reasons sometimes.

With the way Kansas is going these days, I wonder why they have not yet used the death penalty.

I am thankful that they haven't.

I am also thankful that I live in a state that has never had the death penalty. Michigan.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Apr 13, 2014, 10:58 PM

3. Wow! Just wow!

R&K

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Apr 13, 2014, 10:59 PM

4. People Such as Miller Should have been Sentenced

to Life in Prison long ago. A Free Society can not allow them and still be a Just Society.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Apr 13, 2014, 11:01 PM

5. I want to know why he was even allowed out of jail in the first place. There should be NO DEALS for

 

these maggots. Show what kind of people they are...he easily testified against other of his ilk.

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Response to kelliekat44 (Reply #5)

Mon Apr 14, 2014, 12:11 AM

18. I have a hunch that some in law enforcement like having snitches of this political persuasion.

They probably don't think of them as "real" criminals.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Apr 13, 2014, 11:12 PM

7. Execute him.

 

Assuming he's guilty, after a fair trial and a couple of appeals, yada-yada-yada.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Apr 13, 2014, 11:12 PM

8. OKAY SO THERE IS A GLENN MILLER PARK IN MY CITY...

IVE ALWAYS WONDERED WHO IT WAS DEDICATED TO...ANY CHANCE IT WAS SERIOUSLY NAMED AFTER THIS NUTBAG?
ITS IN RICHMOND, INDIANA BTW

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Response to Corey_Baker08 (Reply #8)

Sun Apr 13, 2014, 11:23 PM

9. Nooo

I'm sure it's for the big band leader Glenn Miller.

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Response to Corey_Baker08 (Reply #8)

Sun Apr 13, 2014, 11:23 PM

10. No, named after Col. John F. Miller in 1885

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Response to frazzled (Reply #10)

Sun Apr 13, 2014, 11:32 PM

12. LOL Thanks For the Clarification, I Feel Dumb For Asking LOL

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Apr 13, 2014, 11:29 PM

11. I went to a talk by Morris Dees a few years ago ...

and he spoke about the history of how they started the string of lawsuits they brought against Klan and other white supremacy groups, literally putting them out of business by suing them for huge civil damages on behalf of aggrieved victims or their families. It wasn't enough to convict one lyncher or shooter. They decided to bring suit against the organizations these guys belonged to. And they won. It was a novel approach, and they are an incredibly courageous organization and group of people who work tirelessly in this area. No one else is directly fighting these hateful groups in this way or so effectively. They are well worth your support. Because while they whack one mole, another springs up. And more have been springing up in these last years.

Please help Southern Poverty Law Center.

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Response to frazzled (Reply #11)

Sun Apr 13, 2014, 11:33 PM

13. Morris Dees is one of those unsung heroes..

A few years ago I went to a continuing legal ed course where he was a speaker - amazing guy. I started contributing to SPLC after that.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #13)

Sun Apr 13, 2014, 11:36 PM

14. Indeed, once you hear him talk ...

you will become a regular donor to that organization. They not only do all this amazing legal work in bringing down hate groups, but they have an excellent program of films and materials they send to schools in their "Teach Tolerance" program. The Cesar Chavez film they did five or six years ago was incredible.

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Response to frazzled (Reply #11)

Mon Apr 14, 2014, 12:29 AM

19. Yes, indeed. The SPLC is a worthy and effective organization.

Morris Dees makes you proud to be an American.

Please support the Southern Poverty Law Center.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Apr 13, 2014, 11:42 PM

15. Kansas Jewish Center Shooting Suspect Identified as Former KKK Leader

Kansas Jewish Center Shooting Suspect Identified as Former KKK Leader
April 13, 2014
By GILLIAN MOHNEY and DEAN SCHABNER

The 73-year-old man charged with murder in the shooting at a Jewish community center and retirement community in Overland Park, Kansas, that left three people dead is reportedly the former Grand Dragon of the Carolina Knights of the Ku Klux Klan.

Fraiser Glenn Cross Jr., of Aurora, Mo., was taken into custody in the parking lot of an elementary school near the scene of the shootings, and was booked on a charge of first degree murder, according to the Johnson County, Kansas, Sheriff's Office.

Cross is an alias for Frasier Glenn Miller, the former KKK leader, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center.

In a statement released tonight, the SPLC said it was able to identify Cross as Miller after a phone conversation with Miller's wife, Marge, in which she told them police had come to her home and told her that her husband had been arrested in the shootings.

Among the three people killed in the shootinngs were a 14-year-old Eagle Scout and his grandfather, according to the family of the two.

More:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/73-year-custody-fatal-jewish-center-shooting/story?id=23310932

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Apr 14, 2014, 12:00 AM

16. The Westboro Baptist Church is going to love this

nt

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Response to bluestateguy (Reply #16)

Mon Apr 14, 2014, 01:44 PM

32. they tweeted that they would be at the funerals.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Apr 14, 2014, 12:09 AM

17. Can we call him a terrorist? Please?

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Reply #17)

Mon Apr 14, 2014, 12:40 AM

20. You silly goose...doncha know that only applies to brown people of middle eastern origin? nt

 

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Apr 14, 2014, 01:19 AM

21. just call him frazier miller already

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Apr 14, 2014, 02:43 AM

22. Hopefully they charge this guy with terrorism and perhaps

maybe they can put Alex Linder the owner/operator of VNN out of business while they're at it

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Response to azurnoir (Reply #22)

Mon Apr 14, 2014, 04:21 AM

26. Yes, yes, yes!

Exposing the Vermin Vanguard for what it is should be a major part of this investigation, I wonder exactly what was the content of Miller's latest postings there?

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Response to countryjake (Reply #26)

Mon Apr 14, 2014, 02:20 PM

33. If you want to wade into that sewer, he went by 'Rounder' over there.

I looked at his posting history, and read through some of their messages about this crime last night (before they start scrubbing the site?). The level of support for him over there is absolutely shocking, except for the ones that declared him an FBI snitch. (The vast majority of the mouth-breathing knuckle-draggers over there seem to be most upset that he managed to kill '2 Methodists and only 1 <Jewish slur>'.)

One of their major worries right now is that he may have had the donor/subscriber lists for their 'newspaper', and that the feds will find it when they search his home. One can only hope that they are able to put a lot more of these people onto their watchlists.

I understand that he was also active on Stormfront, but I've done enough damage to my brain at this point and I'm not going over there to see what they're saying about him. I'm headed to take a long hot shower and a major scrub, then going to try to find some mind bleach to finish recovering. <shudder>

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Response to SeattleVet (Reply #33)

Mon Apr 14, 2014, 03:45 PM

35. I saw a reference to "Rounder" yesterday in the comments section at KC Star...

but I've no desire to read the sort of hate-filled crap they spew; both of those sites would be what I consider threats to my computer and by now, I'm sure the vermin has deleted everything that could implicate him anyway.

The only actual bright spot in all this is that investigators can now sift thru Cross/Miller's own hard drive to find out exactly who and what poison is in league with him, so hopefully Linder can be silenced for good, now that the shooting has been classed as a Hate-Crime. And as this is not even one day since the ambushes took place, perhaps they'll be tacking on "terrorism" to the federal charges, after they examine his computer communications to discover any caustic compadres. I can only hope!

None of the murdered were Jewish; the third victim who was shot down at the retirement village was a Catholic, visiting her mother who was a resident there.

Both of the facilities that were attacked did an exemplary job of securing and protecting their buildings after shots were first fired and thankfully, Cross/Miller never was able to gain access to even more innocent people. The resulting fear that he's sparked throughout the KC area and across our entire nation is the worst effect of such crimes; nobody should have to live with the worry that a twisted bastard like that might storm in, guns blazing.

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Response to countryjake (Reply #35)

Mon Apr 14, 2014, 04:12 PM

38. Looks like he killed three white people.

The neo-Nazi sect is crushed. I read Stormfront last night (I haven't checked VNN). I was actually surprised by the number of people who were pissed, even though they referred to the deaths as "two white people and a Jew" (if they were nice). Miller is seen as a traitor and now that he only managed to kill 'whites' and no Jews, they are really pissed off. Their solution is to export all Jews to Israel, which they do not support and consider Zionism to be racist (now there's some fucking irony, but there are "liberals/progressives" who claim the same damn thing).

I have yet to hear what motivated this attack (I mean other than a burning hate for Jews). The few Jews I have talked with are planning on being cautious with Seders and the like, but no one is really freaking out. This is likely just another isolated event, but, in all honesty, given the level of hate I see for Jews, I feel it is only a matter of time before something really, really bad happens.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Apr 14, 2014, 02:45 AM

23. I wonder whether he will be tried as a terrorist and a member of a terrorist conspiracy.

Will his buddies in that movement be tried with him?

Does the Patriot Act apply to people who are not Muslim?

Since the Patriot Act was passed, I have wondered exactly what the definition of terrorism in it means. If it doesn't apply to this man and his act, what does it apply to?

I'm not advocating one way or the other. I'm just wondering.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Apr 14, 2014, 03:22 AM

24. The rightwing propaganda machine is already reporting he ran for office as a Democrat

 


The Wikipedia article on Miller reports he ran for office as a Democrat (1984, NC), as a Republican (1986, NC), and most recently as an Independent (MO, 2006).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frazier_Glenn_Miller,_Jr.

Of course, the only one of these being reported in the rightwing media is his run as a Democrat in 1984.

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Response to OldRedneck (Reply #24)

Mon Apr 14, 2014, 01:34 PM

31. The first thing that came to mind was

how long will it take for Limbaugh to call him a 'leftist'?

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Response to louis-t (Reply #31)

Mon Apr 14, 2014, 03:57 PM

37. and the black pres is behind the KKK

 

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Response to JI7 (Reply #37)

Mon Apr 14, 2014, 04:16 PM

39. I actually saw "Obama is behind this false flag attack" on Stormfront.

"When innocent white people are killed, the (racist term) president has nothing to say! This is another way the Jew mongrel can grab our guns." Keep in mind, at the time that was written, two of the victims were identified s not being Jewish. Now it seems none of them are, which will only fuel speculation among the far extremes that is was a false flag attack.

That is slightly paraphrased, but they did call Obama a "Jew mongrel." That comment jumped out because I have never heard him called something like that before. A puppet of the Jews/Zionists, oh yeah...Hell, I have heard that here, but to actually call him a "Jew," that was a first.

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Response to Behind the Aegis (Reply #39)

Mon Apr 14, 2014, 04:27 PM

42. the whole thing about blacks being part of the jewish attempt to take over has been around

 

for years . not sure if i heard that specific term before but it doesn't sound new to me .

they made false flag claims with sandy hook. watch for it to happen even more with this because it was one of their own who is the shooter .

remember the "jews told to stay home on 9/11" crap ? you will see similar with this.

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Response to JI7 (Reply #42)

Mon Apr 14, 2014, 04:30 PM

43. Oh, that particular load of shit, I have heard since I was a child.

I was specifically referring to them implying Obama is Jewish. That I have never heard. Many of those freaks believe the Jews use the black man (and women, but usually men) to enact their nefarious ways. The newest group the Jews are using? Gays!

Now that none of the victims were Jewish, I have no doubt we will be seeing screams of "false flag" and not just from that racist bunch of nitwits. Be prepared for "this is to distract from the failing negotiations (regarding Israel/Palestine)."

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Apr 14, 2014, 03:59 AM

25. I CAUGHT something that I think will NOT make his jail stay HAPPY...

" AS PART OF A PLEA BARGAIN, MILLER TESTIFIED AGAINST OTHER KLAN LEADERS IN A 1988 SEDITION TRIAL." He rolled on other boneheads to save his own ass in 1988. If you think that somehow they've forgotten, I beg to differ. lol! Oh man, he's in for an INTERESTING life...

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Response to Ecumenist (Reply #25)

Mon Apr 14, 2014, 08:50 AM

28. What he is not going to get loving from the

Aryan Brotherhood when he gets to prison?

By the way as an anti-Semite he is incompetent. Two of the people he gunned down were Methodists.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Apr 14, 2014, 08:05 AM

27. kick

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Apr 14, 2014, 09:22 AM

29. When you look at the vast amount of documentation which paints a criminal who is anti-semetic,

white supremacist, it is tragic the authorities ever made a plea deal with this piece of shit.
I don't know the specifics of who he gave up for the plea deal but come on, he was not
just an accomplice, he was a very dangerous man even back then.

His history of organizing hate campaigns, his book and he appears to have not ever
let up trying to infiltrate the mainstream with his hate messages along with his
ability to carry arms. Why did the plea deal allow him to legally carry weapons??

This is a tragic story where once again, families are traumatized, communities feel
threatened, and with good reason. I think this horrific event could have possibly
been avoided.




















































































































































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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Apr 14, 2014, 10:56 AM

30. The NRA will be in court defending his 2nd Amendment rights

We must be careful to protect the 2nd Amendments rights of these animals. The patriotic NRA will do that. What I find interesting about the 2nd Amendment is that it was added to the Bill of Rights to get Southern States to ratify the package of Amendments to the Constitution. The Southern states wanted the Amendment because they needed guns to protect themselves from a slave rebellion. Slaves outnumbered white Europeans in the South by a huge margin. The 2nd Amendment was not to protect us from a tyrannical Federal government as we were taught in American history class, but to protect the institution of slavery. The rebellion in Haiti already created the 2nd Democracy in the Americas.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Apr 14, 2014, 03:39 PM

34. INteresting discussion thread by our FRiends...

First, they assumed he was Muslim because....well, just because.

Then, they assumed he was a liberal, because only conservatives support Israel.

Finally, when it became obvious that he was a white supremacist, they decided he must be mentally ill.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Apr 14, 2014, 03:50 PM

36. What a horrible scary sad story

'He served three years in federal prison after being indicted on weapons charges and for plotting robberies and the assassination of SPLC founder Morris Dees.'

Only three years?

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Response to LeftishBrit (Reply #36)

Mon Apr 14, 2014, 04:17 PM

40. He rolled over on other white supremacists to cut a deal.

They haven't forgotten.

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Response to Behind the Aegis (Reply #40)

Mon Apr 14, 2014, 08:17 PM

49. Hey Aegis... THAT'S EXACTLY the point I made...THEY consider him to be a traitor AND

a snitch... I'll bring the popcorn, nachos AND the sangria...I'll save you a seat. This'll be interesting.

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Response to LeftishBrit (Reply #36)

Mon Apr 14, 2014, 04:20 PM

41. Yes, that was a result of a plea deal due to his cooperation in securing other KKK individuals.

Yet when you look at the long and extensive documentation..anti-semetic views enhanced by
his explicit call for death to Jews. I commented in post #29, it is a one thing to negotiate a
deal to achieve a greater foe, but with this guy? Why was he allowed to legally own fire
arms as a result of the plea bargain?

Lots of questions, and Heidi Beirich from Southern Poverty Law Center, is speaking out
with regards to why Homeland Security is not looking at these white supremacist groups
more closely...he had exhibited many red flags.

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Response to Jefferson23 (Reply #41)

Mon Apr 14, 2014, 04:35 PM

44. I read that he used a "strawman" to obtain his firearms...

but I've been reading various reports all morning, so I don't remember exactly where I saw that.

The man's vile history goes so far back, I do hope that the government pays attention to what Ms. Beirich is warning us of. Cross/Miller was involved in the Morningside Murders during the Greensboro Massacre in North Carolina and he has barely slowed down in organizing hatred since then, despite the valiant and effective efforts of the SPLC to stop him.

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Response to countryjake (Reply #44)

Mon Apr 14, 2014, 04:42 PM

45. There are gaps in the story and I would like to know what this strawman opportunity was all about.

Fire arms, for this guy? The entire tragedy may have been preventable..there were many
red flags.

The shooter was evidently on Howard Stern when he was running for office..CNN played
a moment of the dialogue...tragic situation. Too often there are not significant warning
signs, but this one seems different.

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Response to Jefferson23 (Reply #45)

Mon Apr 14, 2014, 04:48 PM

46. Strawman purchase = got a friend to buy a gun for him

Illegal as hell, and gun stores are SUPPOSED to watch for telltale signs of it (one guy handles the gun, asks questions, etc, and then his buddy steps up to fill out the background check).

Whoever did the straw purchase for this dumbass will also be spending some well-deserved time in prison, methinks.

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Response to NickB79 (Reply #46)

Mon Apr 14, 2014, 04:51 PM

47. Thank you for the info...I hope they expose all of it. n/t

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Response to Jefferson23 (Reply #47)

Tue Apr 15, 2014, 02:52 PM

50. When I was a college student, I worked in a sporting goods store

I knew guns, so they put me behind the gun counter to sell rifles and shotguns.

I caught a straw purchase attempt once, and called my manager. I went in the back room to discuss what I saw with him. As I spoke, his face just kept getting more and more red; he took his job seriously and you could see he was pissed. He went out, politely spoke with the two men for a few minutes about the gun they wanted to buy, and when he saw the same behavior I did, he told the two SOB's to get out of his store and never come back.

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Response to NickB79 (Reply #50)

Tue Apr 15, 2014, 02:57 PM

51. I would love to think that was the norm...kudos to you both. n/t

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Response to Jefferson23 (Reply #45)

Mon Apr 14, 2014, 05:42 PM

48. I've misspoken...it's a "straw buyer" that was used to get his guns...

here's one place where it talks about that, tho I've been reading mostly local KC articles today, so CNN probably snagged it from some original Kansas source.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/14/us/kansas-jewish-center-shooting/

Cross faces charges of premeditated first-degree murder, officials said.

He obtained firearms from a straw buyer, a U.S. law enforcement official said. That means he didn't go through federal background checks to obtain the three guns that officials said he had when he was arrested Sunday at a nearby elementary school.


The guy's entire "campaign" website is still up, if you want to dirty up your mind and your computer viewing it. Google whty to find it, tho beware of going there...it's actually frightening to me that he probably managed to secure votes with such hatred.

Have you read about him at the SPLC?

Intelligence Files: Frazier Glenn Miller
http://www.splcenter.org/get%20informed/intelligence%20files/profiles/Glenn%20Miller

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