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Tue Mar 25, 2014, 02:39 PM

Donald Rumsfeld: 'A Trained Ape' Would Be Better At Foreign Policy Than Obama

Source: The Huffington Post

Former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld slammed President Barack Obama on Monday, saying "a trained ape" would have better foreign policy skills.

During an appearance on Fox News' "On the Record with Greta van Susteren," Rumsfeld criticized the White House for not securing a status of forces agreement with Afghanistan.

“We have status of forces agreements probably with 100, 125 countries in the world," Rumsfeld said. "This administration, the White House, and the State Department, have failed to get a status of forces agreement. A trained ape could get a status of forces agreement. It doesn’t take a genius.”



Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/25/donald-rumsfeld-trained-ape_n_5027750.html



Stay classy, Rumsfeld........

This guy and Cheney are absolutely evil.

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 02:41 PM

1. An ape analogy in a situation involving an African-American?

Has that even ever happened before?

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Response to onehandle (Reply #1)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 02:43 PM

5. Exactly!!!

What was he thinking??????

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Response to Beacool (Reply #5)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 08:25 PM

87. Thinking? Rumsfeld? The War Criminal?

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Response to Beacool (Reply #5)

Wed Mar 26, 2014, 12:03 AM

102. I was thinking "Oh, no, he didn't." But apparently, the dumbass did. nt

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Response to onehandle (Reply #1)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 11:59 PM

101. It's like when they said Obama "evolved" on gay marriage. That was awful.

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Response to onehandle (Reply #1)

Thu Mar 27, 2014, 08:35 PM

153. Repugs are racists to the marrow. nt

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 02:41 PM

2. A trained ape wouldn't have lied about WMDs. n/t

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Response to LeftinOH (Reply #2)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 03:15 PM

33. Bullshit. A trained ape DID lie about WMD.

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Response to Jackpine Radical (Reply #33)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 03:31 PM

40. +1

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Response to Jackpine Radical (Reply #33)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 04:56 PM

53. indeed

 

that was a very well-trained ape;
and Rumsfeld's a good authority on this.

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Response to Jackpine Radical (Reply #33)

Wed Mar 26, 2014, 11:07 AM

118. This ape wasn't even trained

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Response to warrant46 (Reply #118)

Wed Mar 26, 2014, 11:17 AM

120. Oh, I dunno. I think Cheney did a pretty good job on him.

True, he never taught him to speak intelligibly or walk through doors unassisted, but he had swaggering and macho posturing down to an art.

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Response to Jackpine Radical (Reply #120)

Wed Mar 26, 2014, 12:00 PM

126. +1

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Response to Jackpine Radical (Reply #33)

Wed Mar 26, 2014, 05:54 PM

131. + 2

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 02:42 PM

3. We Had a Trained Ape for 8 years, Rummy

You worked for him. Barry is just cleaning up Chimpy's messes.

"Mister Rumsfeld! Mister Rumsfeld! I have a warrant for your arrest!"

Wolf

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Response to Wolf Frankula (Reply #3)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 02:44 PM

6. My same thoughts.

He must have forgotten who he worked for.......

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Response to Wolf Frankula (Reply #3)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 02:53 PM

15. Correction: "Untrained"

...........just for the sake of accuracy

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Response to Wolf Frankula (Reply #3)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 04:32 PM

46. A trained ape that was trained by Rumsfield and Cheney no less.

Obviously they are not very good at training apes.

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Response to olddad56 (Reply #46)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 07:45 PM

79. Oh, they trained him well enough.

Bush did their bidding.

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Response to Wolf Frankula (Reply #3)

Fri Mar 28, 2014, 05:32 PM

158. GW fired him in 2006, so 6 years. A failed and dismissed loser, making racist attacks, real class.

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 02:43 PM

4. Google Bloody Iraqi Girl Donny

you lied to start a war so people could make money .... your ass should
be in jail for war crimes rather then on TV giving your 2 cents about what should be
done in the world.

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Response to Botany (Reply #4)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 02:45 PM

8. He and Cheney are the lowest of the low.

Bush may be an idiot, but these two are evil men.

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Response to Beacool (Reply #8)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 03:16 PM

36. Elite American military units were w/in 2,000 meters of bin Laden @ Tora Bora in December

.... of 2001 but then Don Rumsfeld gave a "stand down" order so Afghanistan
forces could capture him and other top al Qaeda leaders but that allowed bin Laden
to bribe his way out and to escape into Pakistan. This also allowed Rummy and Cheney
to sell the need for our war in Iraq too because we still had a "boogie man" out there.

Every time I see rummy or cheney or condi or kristol or wolfiwitz or anyone of those
other blood soaked bastards I think of a former neighbor's son who is dying or has
already died of brain cancer he got in Iraq as his unit was assigned to towns that
had KBR "burn pits" for God only knows what. He is just one of many that got
brain cancers from being in Iraq.

If we really had justice these assholes need to be in maximum security jail cells
for the rest of their lives.

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Response to Botany (Reply #36)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 07:45 PM

81. I didn't know that, thank you for the information.

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Response to Beacool (Reply #81)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 08:54 PM

90. Please double check me ......

...... google Rumsfeld Tora Bora stand down order. (BTW any trolls please do the same)

You see if bin Laden was dead then Rummy and Cheney would not have been able to sell
their Iraq war to the American people as something we had to do to keep us safe from
terror. Remember when W did his "Mission Accomplished" show on the aircraft carrier
he said that terrorists now no longer have a place from which to attack America from
(rough quote) even though he knew that Iraq had nothing to do w/ 9-11.


Rummy needs to be a super max prison for the rest of his life for the way he lied us into
the Iraqi war after 9-11.

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Response to Botany (Reply #90)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 11:51 PM

98. I will check it.

Thanks again. Disgusting people, so many dead and all for what?

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Response to Beacool (Reply #98)

Wed Mar 26, 2014, 07:05 AM

110. "So many dead and all for what?" the answer oil

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Response to Botany (Reply #90)

Thu Mar 27, 2014, 01:27 PM

144. If one Googles "Rumsfeld: Tora Bora Standown Order"

Last edited Thu Mar 27, 2014, 06:09 PM - Edit history (1)

The first item is:
TORA BORA REVISITED: HOW WE FAILED TO GET BIN LADEN AND WHY IT MATTERS TODAY
"A Report to Members of the Committee on Foreign Relations, United States Senate"

(I was unable to find a working link to this Govt. Printing Office Senate Report)

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Response to Botany (Reply #4)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 03:11 PM

26. This just boosts my opinion that it is all Kabuki Theater.

Honestly, this "man" and those of that administration, all deserve to be imprisoned, at least by the Hague.
Obama "waves off" all prosecutions (how can you look forward if you don't learn from the past?) and this fellow elitist
is on tee vee taunting Obama policies.
This is at least Kabuki theater (like wresslin) for appearance sake..."we all disagree and hate each other", IMO, realistically IF Obama had not prosecuted rummy because he wanted what (he thought) was best for America, Rummy would "go quietly into the night", less Obama change his mind.
Americans are so propagandized and corrupt that it is hard to know truth from fiction.

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Response to dotymed (Reply #26)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 03:22 PM

39. I don't think Obama went after bush/cheney/rummy and so on because he knows that ...

.... they still are linked to real power and wealth* and the blow back would be so
hot that he could not get done what he wanted to get done. (even though large
sections of what he has wanted to do have been blocked by republicans in Congress)


* God only knows how many billions if not trillions they skimmed off the top
from their Iraq war scams.

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Response to Botany (Reply #39)

Wed Mar 26, 2014, 11:05 AM

117. You are much more kind

in your assumptions than I am.

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Response to Botany (Reply #39)

Wed Mar 26, 2014, 06:18 PM

133. "God only knows how many billions if not trillions they skimmed off the top..

..from their Iraq war scams."

"Why Doesn't Anyone Ask Rumsfeld Where the $2.3 TRILLION Went?"
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/01/02/1175717/-Why'doesn-t-anyone-ask-Rumsfeld-where-the-2.3-TRILLION-went/

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Response to red dog 1 (Reply #133)

Wed Mar 26, 2014, 08:11 PM

134. How about 12 billion in cash that was loaded onto helicopters

..... and then it all went missing?

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Response to dotymed (Reply #26)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 05:09 PM

58. To paraphrase Chomsky: our system allows for lively and vigorous debate

 

But debate only between two carefully selected viewpoints.

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Response to dotymed (Reply #26)

Sat Mar 29, 2014, 11:50 AM

162. unfortunately that's pretty close to the truth. I think they do mean those taunts though

but it's more like sour grapes because the boss gave the job you wanted to someone else, and he's doing it mostly the same way you would, which is even more aggravating.

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Response to Botany (Reply #4)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 07:05 PM

72. Rummy we haven't forgotten your trained ape ass, your 15 min. are over

or will be, when you're thrown in jail

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 02:45 PM

7. Not hiding prejudice anymore I guess

This is unbelievable AND to refer to the President of the United States in that manner is Unfreaking Believable!

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Response to newfie11 (Reply #7)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 02:48 PM

10. Wait until the RW media spins it and says that Democrats are the racists,

that Rumsfeld didn't mean anything and he wasn't referring to the president as an ape. They got no shame.

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Response to Beacool (Reply #10)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 05:45 PM

65. I agree Nt

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 02:46 PM

9. The Smirking Chimp

Lied to us for 8 years. 4000 soldier died, countless maimed and who knows how many Iraqis killed and this idiot has the nerve to call our President any kind of name???

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Response to itcfish (Reply #9)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 02:49 PM

11. The civilian count is over 150,000.

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Response to Beacool (Reply #11)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 03:16 PM

35. The British Journal of Medicine

had stated that over 1 million Iraqis died, since the US invasion and occupation.

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Response to itcfish (Reply #35)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 03:34 PM

41. Oh my, I grossly underestimated the death count.

Poor people.

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Response to Beacool (Reply #41)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 05:47 PM

66. Here are some links to information on that topic. Note that the effect of the US invasion of Iraq

is not even remotely over:

https://www.iraqbodycount.org/

http://icasualties.org/


Half-Million Iraqis Died in the War, New Study Says
Household survey records deaths from all war-related causes, 2003 to 2011.

By Dan Vergano
National Geographic
Published October 15, 2013

...

On March 19, 2003, a U.S.-led coalition invaded Iraq, beginning a ground war that culminated in the rapid capture of Baghdad and overthrow of the regime led by Saddam Hussein. A coalition-led occupation of Iraq lasted until 2011, marked by repeated bombings, an al Qaeda-linked insurgency, militia warfare, and other bloodshed in the nation of 32.6 million people.

In the new PLOS Medicine journal survey, led by public health expert Amy Hagopian of the University of Washington in Seattle, an international research team polled heads of households and siblings across Iraq. The researchers, including some from the Iraqi Ministry of Health, aimed to update and improve past estimates of the human costs of the war and occupation.

"We think it is roughly around half a million people dead. And that is likely a low estimate," says Hagopian. "People need to know the cost in human lives of the decision to go to war."

The survey responses point to around 405,000 deaths attributable to the war and occupation in Iraq from 2003 to 2011. At least another 56,000 deaths should be added to that total from households forced to flee Iraq, the study authors estimate. More than 60 percent of the excess deaths of men, women, and children reported from 2003 to 2011 were the direct result of shootings, bombings, airstrikes, or other violence, according to the study. The rest came indirectly, from stress-related heart attacks or ruined sanitation and hospitals.

...

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/10/131015-iraq-war-deaths-survey-2013/


There was another earlier study that places the death toll much higher - it has proven to be controversial. The analysis of that is here:

Exaggerated claims, substandard research, and a disservice to truth
ORB's "million Iraqi deaths" survey seriously flawed, new study shows

1 ILCS P.54 (UNDP), IFHS (WHO)

There have been several survey-based attempts to roughly estimate the number of Iraqis killed as a result of the 2003 invasion and subsequent conflict. It is unfortunate that the most careful and well-resourced survey work in this area (from the UNDP and WHO)1 has been scarcely visible, while the most flawed and inadequate work has dominated public discourse. This has been largely due to the shocking (but ultimately numbing) effect of their hugely exaggerated death toll figures.

2 Reality checks: some responses to the latest Lancet estimates

3 Ethical and Data-integrity problems in the second Lancet survey of mortality in Iraq

Iraq Body Count (IBC) applied an early and so far unanswered set of reality checks2 to the Johns Hopkins survey published in the Lancet in October 2006, a paper which has recently been comprehensively discredited in a new study3 by Prof. Michael Spagat of Royal Holloway University. Even among the generally inexact survey results for deaths in Iraq the "Lancet estimate" was an extreme outlier, asserting 450,000 more deaths from violence than the much larger WHO-funded study that estimated 151,000 such deaths by July 2006. The only evidence that appeared to support the Lancet finding was published by a polling company, Opinion Research Business (ORB), which estimated 1 million violent Iraqi deaths by August 2007.

4 Conflict Deaths in Iraq: A Methodological Critique of the ORB Survey Estimate

In a meticulous and detailed analysis4 of ORB's survey, IBC researcher Josh Dougherty and Spagat have laid to rest any notion that ORB's massive estimate is even nominally sound, let alone capable of providing validation for another outlier. The press release to their study, published in Survey Research Methods (Vol. 4, No. 1, 2010) is reproduced below.

...

https://www.iraqbodycount.org/analysis/beyond/exaggerated-orb/


There is a lot of data there. Whatever the actual number is, it is very large, and one should remember that even 1 is an unacceptably large toll.

Bush et al. should be prosecuted for their crimes.

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Response to xocet (Reply #66)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 07:42 PM

78. Thank you for the links and information.

Bush jumped the gun, urged by evil Cheney and others, to invade Iraq. Yes, he should be prosecuted for war crimes, but it'll never happen.

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 02:50 PM

12. Gee, aren't you glad you let these war criminals off the hook, Obama?

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Response to Downtown Hound (Reply #12)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 02:57 PM

19. + 1000000

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Response to Downtown Hound (Reply #12)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 03:07 PM

22. Actually, a Democratic led Congress did that long before before Obama became president.

"On May 10, 2006, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) indicated she was not interested in pursuing impeachment and had taken it "off the table", reiterating this phrase on November 8, 2006"

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Response to Beacool (Reply #22)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 05:35 PM

63. Last I checked, impeachment was different from a war crimes trial

You need a two-thirds vote to impeach. The Dems knew they didn't have that, so they took it off the table and waited until Dubya left office. There was nothing to stop Obama from pursuing war crimes charges for the Bush administration once they left office.

I voted for Obama twice and would do so again, but I will always harbor a grudge against him for letting those evil warmongers get away with it.

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Response to Downtown Hound (Reply #63)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 07:38 PM

76. Good point.

I guess that he thought it was time to move on and deal with the disastrous economic picture that we had in 2009. I don't know........

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Response to Beacool (Reply #76)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 09:32 PM

94. When your country experiences an illegitimate election,

two disastrous wars, a raping of the constitution, a near economic collapse, there is no just moving on from that. We need some justice. And Obama denied us that.

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 02:51 PM

13. known Knowns

I know this Donald Rumsfeld is a complete and total asshat. What amazes me is the far rights obsession with destroying Obamas legacy. They will stop at nothing in their attempts to rewrite history. By the way Rummy it was your administration that put that clown Karzi in control of Afghanistan and he is the reason why we cannot get a Status of Force Agreement so maybe you are the trained monkey. I am not a conspiracy theorist but I have wondered why in 8 years the Bush administration got no closer to Bin Laden then Tora Bora but it only to the Obama Administration 2 years to find and kill Bin Laden. Just a thought.

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 02:52 PM

14. He has a rational reason to believe that

 

He has worked with GW Bush who was sort of like a trained ape.

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 02:55 PM

16. The racist douche bag can't really help him self. It's a combination of the way he really

thinks and actually expresses him self when he's with his peers.

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 02:56 PM

17. Aw, go Cheney in your hat, you miserable little shrimp.

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 02:56 PM

18. Nice "subtle" RACIST comment...

War CRIMINAL!

I assume that FuksNews will run this over and over and over.....

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 02:58 PM

20. The irony of that comment,

 

coming from someone who worked for G.W. Bush is amusing. The last president actually referred to publicly as an ape was Abraham Lincoln. As then, such a slur says more about the President's detractors than it does the President.

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 02:59 PM

21. Rumsfeld is a war criminal and a mass murderer

Why anyone would exhibit him on television or listen to anything he utters is beyond my comprehension.

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Response to Glorfindel (Reply #21)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 03:12 PM

29. gretawire

this woman greta was an attorney of good standing once. Now look at her drooling over nonsense talker sarah palin and now entertaining rummy who would be arrested if he crossed the big pond. I dare him & cheney to go merrily to Europe holding hands! They can drag gap tooth conda with them.

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Response to RayStar (Reply #29)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 10:44 PM

97. Well now, that last sentence is dangerously close to stooping totheir level.

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Response to maddiemom (Reply #97)

Wed Mar 26, 2014, 11:59 AM

125. Not really ----old gap toothed is also a War Criminal

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Response to warrant46 (Reply #125)

Wed Mar 26, 2014, 06:17 PM

132. I completely agree with your assessment of Condi, but her teeth have nothing

to do with it. For instance, Mitch McConnell"s turtle like appearance has provoked many joking remarks. I might despise him, but I feel, again, that liberals should take the higher ground. Jokes about anyone's appearance are very junior high.

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Response to maddiemom (Reply #132)

Thu Mar 27, 2014, 09:53 AM

139. True so true

Rice is a Conspirator to the Deliberate and Unjustified Murder of Innocent Children (that Better ?)

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Response to maddiemom (Reply #132)

Thu Mar 27, 2014, 11:19 AM

140. So true... McConnell's turtle-like appearance should not be mentioned.

The guy's resemblance to a turtle, or a tortoise for that matter, should not be a topic of discussion. Just because his philtrum, mouth and receding chin resemble a turtle's beak should not make him an object of ridicule.

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 03:08 PM

23. "We know where they are"

"In Baghdad, Tikrit and the areas north, south, east and west, somewhat"

STFU asshole.

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 03:09 PM

24. Rumsfeld

Het, Donny. Remember when you were going on and on about "known knowns and unknown knowns"? Well, MOST people were very much aware that one KNOWN known is that you are a raving IDIOT. Go tell the chimp you worked for a few "known unknowns"

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 03:10 PM

25. Coming from the 'WMDs are there, they're north, east, west, or south of Baghdad' guy

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 03:11 PM

27. What, Donald, not enough people murdered and exiled from their homes yet?

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 03:12 PM

28. Even a Trained Ape Would Be Preferable.........

 

....to the UNTRAINED APES who were in charge from 2002 to 2008.

Those would include "Dubbya", Cheney, Rummy.
Condy and the Defense Policy Advisory Board Committee
(you know: Wolfowitz, Kissinger, the Kagans, Perle, Adelman,
Gingrich, Quayle..........)

Oh, sorry, there were some monkeys involved back then, too.

Rummy should be hiding his face in shame for what he did.

Now he's pretending it's all an"unknown unknown".

Sorry Rummy - it's a "known known".

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 03:13 PM

30. Why didn't he just use the term spear chucker or jungle bunny & be done with it?

Evil POS.

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 03:14 PM

31. that's rich coming from pond scum Donald Rumsfeld

 

that "trained ape" is better at foreign policy than pond scum was...

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 03:15 PM

32. FAIL

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Response to GeorgeGist (Reply #32)

Thu Mar 27, 2014, 06:41 PM

147. Now THAT is a trained ape!

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 03:16 PM

34. And untrained ape would have to be Bush...

a trained ape would have to be Rumskull!

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 03:19 PM

37. What a racist fucking asshole.

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 03:20 PM

38. Rumsfeld is an idiot

Rumsfeld is one of the dumbest human beings to ever hold office. Rumsfeld and Cheney lied about Iraq and yet expect people to listen to their amusing but ignorant positions

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #38)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 03:47 PM

44. I don't think that he's dumb.

I think that he and Cheney are just very nasty men, that's why I called them evil. They are smart enough to know better.

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 03:42 PM

42. WTF?!



What a loathsome asshole.

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 03:44 PM

43. French War Crimes Complaint Against Donald Rumsfeld

On October 26, 2007, the Center for Constitutional Rights (CCR) along with the International Federation for Human Rights (FIDH), the European Center for Constitutional and Human Rights (ECCHR), and the French League for Human Rights, filed a complaint with the Paris Prosecutor charging former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld with ordering and authorizing torture.

Rumsfeld was in Paris for a talk sponsored by Foreign Policy magazine, and after he learned of the complaint, left through a door connecting to the U.S. embassy to avoid journalists and human rights attorneys outside.

The criminal complaint states that because of the failure of authorities in the United States and Iraq to launch any independent investigation into the responsibility of Rumsfeld and other high-level U.S. officials for torture despite a documented paper trail and government memos implicating them in direct as well as command responsibility for torture – and because the U.S. has refused to join the International Criminal Court – it is the legal obligation of states such as France to take up the case.

In this case, charges are brought under the 1984 Convention Against Torture (CAT), ratified by both the United States and France and using the concept of universal jurisdiction.

http://ccrjustice.org/ourcases/current-cases/french-war-crimes-complaint-against-donald-rumsfeld,-et-al.

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 04:23 PM

45. Said the slug. nt

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 04:35 PM

47. Bartcop

used to call Bush ' der monkey furer'.

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Response to MFM008 (Reply #47)

Wed Mar 26, 2014, 10:22 AM

115. Except Bartcop never lied us into war.

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 04:37 PM

48. A bold statement

From the feces-thrower of all time.

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Response to Scairp (Reply #48)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 07:06 PM

73. from the chickenhawk of all time

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 04:44 PM

49. How many "I stand with Rummy!" Posts will I see on FB

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 04:46 PM

50. Stay Away From Mirrors Rumsfeld

The current problems in Afghanistan have your fingerprints all over them.

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 04:46 PM

51. 3..2..1..BUT DOES HE HAVE A RIGHT TO SAY IT?!?! (Fox News)

And the other 60% if the discussion will be playing victim to "they are playing the race card!!!"

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 04:53 PM

52. Yup, as the group of idiots who destabilized the middle east, killed over one million Iraqi citizens

and cause so much misery and suffering through their policies are the last people anyone wants to hear from

What a piece of garbage

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 04:59 PM

54. So, the president who invaded the country couldn't get an SOFA either?

 

He got one for Iraq, so what was the problem with Afghanistan?

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 05:05 PM

55. And that comes from the stupid son of a bitch that

got us in two wars. Fuck you Rummy!

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 05:06 PM

56. Hey Rummy GFY

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 05:09 PM

57. Takes one to know one .. (nt)

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 05:10 PM

59. oh fuck OFF you warmongering piece of SHIT

ENOUGH OF THIS CRAP

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 05:21 PM

60. Didn't the piece of shit, Rumsfeld get fired from his last job?

 

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 05:28 PM

61. Still trying to justify Bush, is he?

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 05:34 PM

62. These sub humans like Rumsfeld and Chaney are evil and the're dragging us down to hell with them .

Last edited Tue Mar 25, 2014, 11:59 PM - Edit history (1)

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 05:37 PM

64. That sounds awfully racist, Donny.

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 05:52 PM

67. That scale would put Rummy a little lower than pathogenic bacteria.

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 06:12 PM

68. This dude...

 

seriously needs to go fuck himself.

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 06:17 PM

69. An untrained ape with severe brain damage . . .

 

Poor old Rummy, he meant to say that an untrained ape with paranoid delusions and severe brain damage would be better at Foreign Policy than Donald Rumsfeld ever was.

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 06:45 PM

70. Rumsfield, otoh, isn't even trained. That is why his sh*t is all over everything.

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 06:50 PM

71. This from the most incompetent SOD of all time.

Well, he would certainly know what it's like to work for a trained ape, wouldn't he?

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Response to BlueStater (Reply #71)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 07:48 PM

82. Particularly since he and Cheney trained him.

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 07:13 PM

74. Hey Rummy, we don't need status of forces agreements b/c we're outta there

with corrupt Karzai in power. Rummy supports Karzai until one of them dies first. Karzai knows where the bodies are buried so Rummy defends him to the last.

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 07:20 PM

75. So Rumsfeld is Racist too?

who knew?

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Response to yuiyoshida (Reply #75)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 08:52 PM

89. I'd like him and Faux for once to tell the truth:



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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 07:39 PM

77. Always an appropriate time to post this

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Response to Generic Other (Reply #77)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 07:48 PM

83. We wish..........





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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 07:45 PM

80. Hey, Donny-boy, just a little request - could you,...

...you know, eat shit and die......please.........please, please, please.

I promise I'll let the vultures pick your bones clean before I piss on your corpse. Really!





Shithead.

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 08:05 PM

84. I screamed when I heard this - what an ass

Willhe give me back the life of a boy I saw grow up but died in Iraq at 25 - he might remember Iraq, that is where they moved their soldier to instead of finishing the war correctly in Afghanistan.

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Response to hollysmom (Reply #84)

Wed Mar 26, 2014, 09:40 AM

112. I'm so sorry for your loss.

Don't let evil guys like Rumsfeld get to you. They don't deserve a minute of your time.

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 08:09 PM

85. Wheras an UNtrained ape would have known that invading Iraq would be a disaster

 

Cheney, Rummy, Wolfie: Firing squads for all !

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 08:14 PM

86. Th war criminal speaks

Too angry to type what I'm thinking, so I'll tone it down a little and just say - Fuck you, Rumsfield, you worthless bag of shit.

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Response to mokawanis (Reply #86)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 09:26 PM

93. Don't let him get to you, the turd is not worth it.

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 08:26 PM

88. He's still alive? /nt

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 08:56 PM

91. among the known knowns is that Rummy the Dummy

is an evil piece of shit who belongs behind bars for the remainder of his nasty existence.

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 09:12 PM

92. Condoleeza Rice, Rumsfeld, Rove, the whole gang is back in the news

I wish they would have stayed in the hole they slithered into after Bush's term was over.

Maybe this appearance will remind people what an absolute dick Rumsfeld was/is.

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 09:34 PM

95. This from the guy who was absolutly positive the Iraq War would last 6 weeks.

 

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 10:33 PM

96. This is what happens when you give war criminals amnesty, that fucker

 

has the blood of 100s of thousands of dead on his hands, plus the boy-wonder virtually handed Iraq to Iran on a silver platter.

He should be should deported to Iraq and forced to live in the neo-con Disneyland he conspired to create.

Seriously one of the most cynical and evil men to have walked the planet.

Evil drilled deep into the heart of our nation during the Reagan and Bush years, men like Rumsfeld would be just as happy in the Stasi or KGB or Saddam's Red Guard, anyplace where abusive men addicted to wealth and power live outside the law.

Rumsfeld shakes hands with Saddam





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Response to pragmatic_dem (Reply #96)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 11:54 PM

99. Look at Rummy, cozying up to Saddam.

Sickening........

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 11:58 PM

100. A bogus insult. Obama totally could have got that agreement if he thought it was important.

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Wed Mar 26, 2014, 12:36 AM

103. He should know.

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Response to Deep13 (Reply #103)

Wed Mar 26, 2014, 10:05 AM

114. That's a classic.

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Wed Mar 26, 2014, 12:41 AM

104. Wait, that war criminal is still walking around loose?

Rummy is a vile piece of inhumanity, and given his own foreign policy record, he should just STFU.

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Wed Mar 26, 2014, 02:33 AM

105. Doesn't he have a kitten to suck the blood out of as he sits under his bridge and yells at kids to

 

get off his lawn?

What a ghoul!

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Wed Mar 26, 2014, 02:35 AM

106. The inability of republicans to hide their racist natures never ceases to amaze me.

They somehow believe no one other than other racists are looking on. Thank you Mr. Rumsfield. You are such a blessing to us Democrats!

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Wed Mar 26, 2014, 02:40 AM

107. While I disagree with the President

on a number of issues, I am so proud of his foreign policy acumen. The recent press conference in the Netherlands displayed his mastery of the subject and made me proud I voted and worked for him. I may often express reservations about his ties to Wall Street, the TPP etc., but he sure can do foreign policy right.
He is the steady hand at the wheel when it comes to navigating international relations safely and accomplishing your objectives.

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Wed Mar 26, 2014, 04:56 AM

108. Donald Rumsfeld?

This guy?

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Wed Mar 26, 2014, 05:38 AM

109. Rummy should go back to watching his war-porn flicks

and leave everybody else alone.

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Wed Mar 26, 2014, 08:36 AM

111. I recall Rumsfeld working well with Chimps...

Whistle Ass Smirking Chimps....

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Wed Mar 26, 2014, 10:02 AM

113. Hahahaha!!!!

Here's a little quiz for Donald Rumsfeld and other foreign policy "experts," like the Republican Party:

1) How many wars did President Obama lie about in order to start? And President G. W. Bush?

2) How many democratic nations were overthrown by despots and then given President Obama's full support? And President G. W. Bush?

3) How many rogue nations acquired nuclear weapons during President Obama's term? And President G. W. Bush?

4) How many heads of state were surprised, embarrassed, disgusted, or otherwise put off by President Obama's awkward and uninformed public comments and actions? And President G. W. Bush?

Answers for President Obama, 1)-4): None.

Answers for President Bush: 1) At least one, Iraq; 2) At least three, Venezuela, Principe/Sao Tome, and Haiti; 3) At least one, North Korea; 4) Too many to count, perhaps, "all of them" is the best answer.

Or to put it another way, who would the most evil and incompetent diplomat in modern history, Joachim von Ribbentrop, want to have a beer with?

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Wed Mar 26, 2014, 10:56 AM

116. One of the worst mistakes was not charging these bastards with crimes against humanity.

Obama's timidity to confront these evil scumbags and charge them was in my estimation a gross miscarriage. It has left a legacy that allows for the grosses of crimes to be committed by public officials and even honored as heroes by their fawning admirers. The whole affair is revolting.

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Wed Mar 26, 2014, 11:10 AM

119. Give me that old time racism.

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Wed Mar 26, 2014, 11:25 AM

121. This is what happens when the bad guys get away with murder.

 

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #121)

Wed Mar 26, 2014, 11:32 AM

123. Yes.

Exactly.
Also shows up in what Putin dared do.

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #124)

Wed Mar 26, 2014, 12:52 PM

128. Had never heard it. Love Malloy, of course. Especially

when he nails it like this.
This was a gift, I needed the kind of laugh I got which is the kind with a stitch in your side AND your gut.
Rumsfeld remains an embarrassment. Right along with the other asshats.

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Wed Mar 26, 2014, 11:31 AM

122. Look. Who's. Fuckin'. Talking.

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Wed Mar 26, 2014, 12:48 PM

127. Like Scott Walker or Elizabeth Cheney Perry...

 

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Wed Mar 26, 2014, 03:16 PM

129. racist

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Wed Mar 26, 2014, 03:38 PM

130. Anyone who allows this scum on TV again should be called out for promoting racism.

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Wed Mar 26, 2014, 08:26 PM

135. It was a poor choice of words

He was talking about an agreement between the U.S. and Afghanistan for troops to remain in that country after the withdrawal later this year. At the risk of incurring wrath of my fellow forum members (don't hate on me!), I agree that it would be a bad thing to allow Afghanistan to go back to Taliban.

Not that Rumsfeld has ANY credibility on this issue.

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Response to karend62 (Reply #135)

Wed Mar 26, 2014, 10:11 PM

137. Yes, it was a poor choice of words.

But he and Cheney are always so disdainful of Obama, Hillary and other Democrats. Considering the cluster f*ck they created and the number of people who died thanks to their invasions, where do they get the gumption to criticize this administration?

Although, I do agree that it wouldn't be a good thing if Afghanistan went back to Taliban rule.

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Wed Mar 26, 2014, 09:02 PM

136. I'm just sorry that

 

Obama is/was so stupid or naive not to know this wouldn't come back to bite him in the ass.

Armature = Obama

This did not and does not portend well for the US...but who of us didn't know this by the end of Obama's first term.

Might as well just get it over with. We're toast & just didn't want to realize it 3 years ago.

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Wed Mar 26, 2014, 11:39 PM

138. Rumsfeld's still alive?


I must have been dreaming that he died in ignominiously in discredited shame. I was hoping we were in a universe that has some justice. I don't even dream were in a just one where Rumsfeld serves the rest of his life in prison.

Honestly, the very fact that Fox would go near someone as toxic as Rumsfeld says something.

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Response to caseymoz (Reply #138)

Thu Mar 27, 2014, 11:21 AM

141. I'm amazed that Cheney is still alive.

When his time comes, someone will have to drive a stake through his donor's heart to make sure he stays down.



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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Thu Mar 27, 2014, 11:44 AM

142. Really Rummy.....

then that would make you an organ grinder.

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Thu Mar 27, 2014, 12:28 PM

143. Sez a guy who thought the US could

take over a country of 25 million with 30,000 troops.

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Thu Mar 27, 2014, 05:42 PM

145. "Hindenburg designer opines on aircraft safety" n/t

 

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Thu Mar 27, 2014, 06:36 PM

146. K&R...Thanks for posting, Beacool

A trained ape wouldn't have allowed Bin Laden & his senior staff to all escape the way Rummy did when they were surrounded by Coalition troops at Tora Bora.

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Response to red dog 1 (Reply #146)

Thu Mar 27, 2014, 08:28 PM

149. No problem............

Rumsfeld and Cheney are despicable people.



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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Thu Mar 27, 2014, 08:12 PM

148. The Iraq invasion will take "at most six weeks, I doubt six months."

— said a wholly incompetent SecDef once upon a time. Whose current protestations cannot erase the blood on his hands.

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Response to Qutzupalotl (Reply #148)

Thu Mar 27, 2014, 08:32 PM

150. I also remember Cheney saying something about flowers that would be thrown at our soldiers

for "freeing" them from Saddam. The only thing I recall being thrown at our troops were IEDs.



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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Thu Mar 27, 2014, 08:34 PM

151. Actually, the trained ape is Rumsfeld, who rather has that skinny ape look about him nt

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Thu Mar 27, 2014, 08:35 PM

152. Well Dumsfeld, a trained ape should have told you that there were no WMDs in Iraq.

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Thu Mar 27, 2014, 08:52 PM

154. Cartoon showing Rumsfeld, cheney and bush

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #154)

Fri Mar 28, 2014, 10:41 AM

155. Good one.

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Fri Mar 28, 2014, 03:23 PM

156. Using that Logic

and given his record as a foreign policy "expert" that would make him an
'untrained' ape

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Response to Beacool (Original post)

Fri Mar 28, 2014, 05:29 PM

157. I notice not one of the MSM propagandists, including now HUFFPo have mentioned, Rummy was fired for

his own failures.

Although it is called as usual a resignation.


*edit: http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/11/08/rumsfeld/index.html

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Response to Todays_Illusion (Reply #157)

Sat Mar 29, 2014, 11:37 AM

160. Yes, after the debacle that Iraq and Afghanistan became, Bush finally got rid of Rumsfeld.

I think that he was fed up with Cheney too, but he couldn't get rid of him.

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Fri Mar 28, 2014, 10:37 PM

159. Can we get a surgeon in here to pry that man's foot from his mouth before

he makes an even bigger ass of himself? You know the difference between the war criminal Rumsfeld and the war criminal Kissinger? Kissinger would never say anything as stupid as that on Fox. Rummie is a Kissinger wannabe---which is pretty pathetic.

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Sat Mar 29, 2014, 11:37 AM

161. He's a racist pig

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