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Tue Mar 25, 2014, 05:19 AM

Right Sector coordinator Muzychko killed in Ukraine's Rivne

Source: Interfax-Ukraine

Oleksandr Muzychko, also known as Sashko Bily, the coordinator of the Right Sector ultra-nationalistic group in western Ukraine, was killed in the city of Rivne last night, parliamentarian Oleksandr Doniy said on his Facebook page.

"I have just been told that Sashko Bily (Oleksandr Muzychko) was killed. Two vehicles cut up his car, after which he was dragged out of his car and forced into one of these vehicles. He was then thrown out of the vehicle handcuffed behind his back and with two gunshot wounds to his heart," Doniy said.

On March 7, the Russian Investigative Committee opened a criminal inquiry against Muzychko, who was suspected of involvement in acts of banditry targeting Russian federal forces in Chechnya in the 1990s.

Committee spokesman Vladimir Markin told Interfax that Muzychko was accused of "killing at least 20 soldiers of federal forces held in captivity."

Read more: http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/right-sector-coordinator-muzychko-killed-in-ukraines-rivne-340741.html



Notorious Ukrainian right-wing militant leader Aleksandr Muzychko, also known as Sashko Bilyi, has been shot dead during a police raid against his gang, confirmed Ukraine’s Ministry of Interior.

Muzychko was killed in Rovno, western Ukraine, where he coordinated actions of local groups belonging to the nationalist Right Sector movement, a national Ukrainian news media outlet reported.

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The operation to arrest him took place in a village near Rovno, where the militant leader and three of his bodyguards, all of them armed, were in a local restaurant, called “The Three Crucians.”

An assault group from the Sokol special police task force stormed the restaurant to detain Muzychko and his henchmen. The militant leader made an attempt to flee through a window. He opened fire, and two of his bullets wounded a police officer, who returned fire and shot Muzychko in the leg. Other police officers shot in the air, Yevdokimov said.


http://rt.com/news/sashko-bily-dead-reports-013/

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jakeXT Mar 2014 OP
Hell Hath No Fury Mar 2014 #1
Daemonaquila Mar 2014 #9
MosheFeingold Mar 2014 #35
OKNancy Mar 2014 #2
dipsydoodle Mar 2014 #3
Catherina Mar 2014 #13
dipsydoodle Mar 2014 #14
Catherina Mar 2014 #15
newthinking Mar 2014 #23
Catherina Mar 2014 #31
Duckhunter935 Mar 2014 #4
jakeXT Mar 2014 #5
marble falls Mar 2014 #6
soundsgreat Mar 2014 #43
marble falls Mar 2014 #44
rdharma Mar 2014 #7
Daemonaquila Mar 2014 #8
fNord Mar 2014 #10
GeorgeGist Mar 2014 #21
rdharma Mar 2014 #20
Igel Mar 2014 #36
JackRiddler Mar 2014 #45
blackspade Mar 2014 #11
Catherina Mar 2014 #12
go west young man Mar 2014 #16
Catherina Mar 2014 #19
nyabingi Mar 2014 #17
Catherina Mar 2014 #18
joshcryer Mar 2014 #22
newthinking Mar 2014 #24
joshcryer Mar 2014 #25
newthinking Mar 2014 #26
joshcryer Mar 2014 #27
go west young man Mar 2014 #32
joshcryer Mar 2014 #34
go west young man Mar 2014 #38
joshcryer Mar 2014 #39
go west young man Mar 2014 #40
joshcryer Mar 2014 #41
go west young man Mar 2014 #42
jakeXT Mar 2014 #49
rdharma Mar 2014 #28
joshcryer Mar 2014 #29
rdharma Mar 2014 #30
joshcryer Mar 2014 #33
JackRiddler Mar 2014 #46
Igel Mar 2014 #37
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jakeXT Mar 2014 #48

Response to jakeXT (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 05:30 AM

1. Uh oh...

 

This is not going to go down well.

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Response to Hell Hath No Fury (Reply #1)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 09:49 AM

9. I'd guess just the opposite.

 

He had a "perception problem," so it was handled. I suspect there will be more coming - far right party members may be useful in knocking heads, but nobody there wants another Sergey Aksyonov.

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Response to Hell Hath No Fury (Reply #1)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 07:15 PM

35. Very Night of the Long Knives

I can't figure out what is going on here, but it reeks of history repeating itself.

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Response to jakeXT (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 06:12 AM

2. Washington Post article

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/ukraine-orders-troop-pullout-from-crimea/2014/03/25/7b712628-b3ef-11e3-bab2-b9602293021d_story.html

"The Interior Ministry said Tuesday that Muzychko was shot dead after opening fire on police."

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Response to jakeXT (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 06:24 AM

3. Top Ukraine nationalist killed in police operation

KIEV, Ukraine (AP) -- Ukraine's Interior Ministry says a prominent member of a radical nationalist movement in Ukraine that played a key role in recent anti-government demonstrations was killed during a police operation to detain him.

Right Sector's Oleksandr Muzychko, better known by his nom de guerre Sashko Bily, had become a recurring figure in Russian attempts to portray Ukraine's interim government as dominated by radical nationalists. Moscow has cited the purported influence of groups like Right Sector to justify the absorption of Crimea.

Many in Ukraine downplay Right Sector's importance, however, and argue that it has negligible influence. Police say Muzychko was sought for organized crime links, hooliganism and for threatening public officials.

The Interior Ministry said Tuesday that Muzychko was shot dead after opening fire on police.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_UKRAINE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-03-25-04-49-17

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Response to dipsydoodle (Reply #3)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 11:27 AM

13. Reuters account and Dmytro Yarosh

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The interior ministry said officers from the Sokol special unit had killed Oleksander Muzychko, also known as Sashko Bily, as he tried to escape from a cafe in the western Ukrainian region of Rivne on Monday night.

"At the moment of arrest, at shouts of 'Stop! Police!', Muzychko fled, jumping through a window and opened fire," the first deputy interior minister, Volodymyr Yevdokimov, told a news conference in Kiev. The officers returned fire, killing Muzychko, he said.

Muzychko was a member of the hardline Right Sector and the group's co-ordinator for western Ukraine, the country's nationalist heartland bordering the EU. Police said he was wanted for hooliganism and an attack on a local prosecutor.

...

The Right Sector leader Dmytro Yarosh has said he plans to run for president in elections on 25 May, but he is a rank outsider.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/25/ukrainian-far-right-activist-shot-dead


Muzychko killing: Ultra-nationalist mastermind demands cops’ arrest, Interior Minister’s dismissal

Dmitry Yarosh, leader of Ukraine's Right Sector nationalist party, is demanding the resignation of acting Interior Minister Arsen Avakov and the arrest of police officers involved in the killing of notorious radical militant Aleksandr Muzychko.

"We cannot watch silently as the Interior Ministry works to undermine the revolution," Interfax reported Yarosh as saying. “We demand the immediate resignation of the Interior Minister Arsen Avakov, and the arrest of the commander of the Sokol Special Forces and those guilty of [Muzychko’s] murder."

...

Right Sector leaders threatened Avakov with revenge, though they did not specify exactly what they would do.

“We will take revenge on Arsen Avakov for the death of our brother,” said Roman Koval, the Right Sector organizer in Rovno, charivne.info news portal reported.

...

http://rt.com/news/yarosh-nationalist-resign-killing-157/


Yarosh, head of Right Sector, is the deputy secretary of the Security and Defence Council.

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Response to Catherina (Reply #13)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 11:42 AM

14. We will take revenge on Arsen Avakov.......

I think it likely they will do more than creep up behind him and say "Boo" !

His name makes me laugh. Reminds me of Arsene Lupin whose name at one time was translated as "sat on a pin"

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Response to dipsydoodle (Reply #14)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 12:07 PM

15. Worrisome. Video of children being taught to sing "Hang the Russians"




You gotta love how the media's slipping. First there was no hard right among the Maidan rioters, and it was an impeachment. Now it's "A prominent Ukrainian far-right activist, part of a hardline nationalist movement that played a leading role in the overthrow of President Viktor Yanukovych."

So much for not being a fascist led coup.

Trying to distance themselves before the bloodbath are they?

Paging Arsene Lupin

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Response to Catherina (Reply #13)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 02:42 PM

23. Right Sector has been growing due to their association with Maidan

They have a recruiting video

Here is there PR video - Chilling

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Response to newthinking (Reply #23)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 05:46 PM

31. I just posted that in a Yarosh post

I just posted that same video here. It's one of their tamer videos too.

"'We are against degeneracy and totalitarian liberalism, but we support traditional morals and family values, against the cult of profit and depravity.'" I give you two guesses what Yarosh means here when he talks about fighting "degeneracy" and "depravity" right after "traditional national morality and family values". It's just the beginning of the revival huh?

Chilling.

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Response to jakeXT (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 06:41 AM

4. But I thought

 

this illegal coup government is all far right extremists?

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Response to Duckhunter935 (Reply #4)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 06:45 AM

5. Remember Ernst Röhm? I wonder how many in Ukraine will believe he was killed by Russians

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_R%C3%B6hm


Vse and another Rivne website, ChaRivne, said that townspeople believed that Muzychko had been gunned down by a "Russian subversive group."

Crime scene photos published by Ukrainian news agencies showed a body in a torn-up jacket and shirt lying on the ground.

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/ultranationalist-leader-in-maidan-protests-is-shot-dead-in-ukraine-video/496788.html

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Response to jakeXT (Reply #5)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 08:44 AM

6. Because Ernst Rohm wasn't a RW thug himself?

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Response to marble falls (Reply #6)

Wed Mar 26, 2014, 01:22 PM

43. Röhm paved the way for Hitler with his SA mob

 


after Hitler achieved power, he liquidated his powerful competitor.

Looks pretty similar to what happened to Musychko. The comparison is appropriate.

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Response to soundsgreat (Reply #43)

Wed Mar 26, 2014, 07:57 PM

44. Röhm was a right wing thug himself and Hitler got rid of him because he was afraid he might....

lose control of the Brownshirts.

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Response to Duckhunter935 (Reply #4)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 08:45 AM

7. Night of the Long Knives

 

Who could have seen this coming?

Isn't it strange how history repeats itself?

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Response to rdharma (Reply #7)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 09:45 AM

8. I know, right?

 

Clue for thugs with political aspirations: legitimate pols don't have "henchmen."

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Response to rdharma (Reply #7)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 09:54 AM

10. History repats itself....

The way the whole world is watching this and saing "Wow, this looks like the last time Puttin just claimed some land for Mother Russia! And we just sat back and watched like it was shark week."
"Wow look at that!" We said, not even considering the irony.

I'll tell you who saw this comming.
He saw, and he paid the price for realizing bits of there plan. In an unrelenting world, where truth is a more rare commodity than an American named "John Doe," This vilified "bastard" told it all, and didn't even hide his Real Face. Really. Just listen to "Bring Back the Bomb" and ask yourself if you truely thought this wasn't "inevitable."

He is Saint Oderus Urungus,
Or,
Recently,
The late: Dave Brockie

Poor bastard. He's going to mis the next Cold War. Not a lot, but he's gonna mis it. Not by a lot either.

But we won't.

We all got front row tickets. And since we paid a hell of a lot for 'em, I'd advise lots of sunscreen and naps.

Glucklicht Nur Aus Tut

Hail Eris,
All Hail Discordia


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Response to fNord (Reply #10)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 02:09 PM

21. How sad.

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Response to Duckhunter935 (Reply #4)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 01:15 PM

20. What are you talking about? Sashko Bily wasn't part of the interim government.

 

I guess they took ol' Sashko's challenge to come and take his AK-47 very seriously.

μολὼν λαβέ, y'all!

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Response to Duckhunter935 (Reply #4)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 07:43 PM

36. That's how it goes.

Like the post upstream that says the media said there were "no extremists" on the Maidan.

It's essential for there to be two extreme poles in this dispute, the forces of Right and Good and the forces of fascist hate and evil. If you're not with them you're against them, and it's impossible for a crowd to be diverse.

Ukraine will have to deal with the far-right, which isn't an uncommon occurrence in general in revolutions. You find common ground in opposition. Then, afterwards, you have to decide what to do. (Some find the differences dividing them to be even greater than opposition to armed invasion and annexion, arrest of dissidents and quelling of free speech, imperialism and opposition. And they call others extreme.)

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Response to Duckhunter935 (Reply #4)

Thu Mar 27, 2014, 11:44 AM

45. Figure it out...

 

Factional conflicts are frequently seen in post coup situations, but perhaps more relevant here is that Right Sector is accused of murdering police - captive police, apparently - in the Maidan. And who says the elements of the old regime have been altogether disempowered? It's a complicated situation, clearly.

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Response to jakeXT (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 10:47 AM

11. Those are some dramatically different accounts.

WTF?

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Response to jakeXT (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 11:03 AM

12. Video

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Response to Catherina (Reply #12)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 12:15 PM

16. An additional video to add..

 

This one was of him assaulting a minister...taken before his death. (of course)

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Response to go west young man (Reply #16)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 12:45 PM

19. Here's another one to add

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Response to jakeXT (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 12:17 PM

17. Good riddance

The brutish, neo-Nazi thug apparently went down in a blaze a glory just as he would've wanted to - I have no tears to shed for scumbags like this guy and may the rest of his "comrades" meet the same fate.

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Response to jakeXT (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 12:33 PM

18. MINA reports a fight

According to preliminary reports, a conflict sparked up between several groups of people at the cafe. Then, the conflict continued outside and resulted in shooting Muzychko dead. He was presumably killed from a submachine-gun. Criminal experts who have worked at the murder scene have found several gunshot wounds in his body, one bullet hitting the leg and others the body.

http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/24957/53/

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Response to jakeXT (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 02:35 PM

22. Good for the interim government getting this guy.

It's laughable how people are saying this is image management...

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #22)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 02:50 PM

24. Now they just need to deal with the other Right Sector Deputies and svoboda ministers

But will they? That is the big question...

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Response to newthinking (Reply #24)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 03:42 PM

25. Of course they will.

It's like asking if the USA would go after whatever militia groups that are out there committing violence. Like Tim McVey, etc.

These far right groups are just a boogie man.

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #25)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 04:00 PM

26. Well if Tim McVey's friends were assistant director of National Security and other executive

positions, that would be a more complete analogy. So there definitely is a question how dedicated the admin in Ukraine is to removing the neo-nazi's, or how afraid they are of the far right.

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Response to newthinking (Reply #26)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 04:39 PM

27. We will see, those positions are temporary.

They were chosen to appease the protesters, only four of the cabinet members that I saw had a really bad background. I think the far right elements gained traction because liberals didn't recognize Maidan as a popular movement, but out most certainly was. If you leave a vacuum someone will fill it.

The hope should be that Valiti wins the elections, and it's doubtful the makeup of the cabinet will include any of the current members. The acting PM even said it was a suicide cabinet. However, if the oligarch wins Ukraine is doomed.

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #27)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 06:10 PM

32. Your still kidding yourself Josh.

 

Last edited Tue Mar 25, 2014, 07:03 PM - Edit history (2)

That level of violence didn't come from a 'popular movement". A Popular movement would encompass everybody and be much more peaceful. That level of violence came from the far right who led the protests from the get go back in November. We on the hard left here at DU have been telling you this from the beginning. They were always neo-nazi's, soccer hooligans, street thugs...they gained some traction over time and centrists from the West of Ukraine started to show up to the protests. Of course $50 a day from some unknown sources was good incentive too...right around the time Victoria Nulland was handing out cookies.

Groups of those centrists were then slaughtered by snipers of that very same right wing movement in order to create an excuse to draw the EU and US in. It worked but now Frankensteins Monster can't be put back in the bottle...this killing is obviously an attempt to reel it in...but it dominates the political climate there and probably things will get a lot worse before they get better.

The stunning silence from the Western media on many of these goings ons speaks volumes. The BBC reported that the radical protesters were sniping their own people and not a peep was made in the United States. Once again here is the video evidence. To interested readers: fast forward to the 2:40 mark. The BBC reporter points out the snipers window. Prior to this the sniper had shot close to the BBC reporter.

Ukraines Grassy knoll
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024616147

The hard right sector and their role in all this has also been largely ignored but he mainstream US press. The Nation magazine did cover the issue as did various left leaning sites but the MSM was silent. Why would that be? Because it didn't fit the narrative...that's why. Which shows our complicit role in all this. The crime of omission speaks of the crime itself.

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Response to go west young man (Reply #32)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 07:01 PM

34. It was peaceful for months!

This is just BS and you know it.

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #34)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 07:58 PM

38. You have that quite wrong Josh..

 

it was extremely violent in early November when the protests began...it calmed down in mid December then in January it erupted again...it seemed centrist for a couple of weeks in late January then it blew up in the final month once again driven by the far right most violent elements. There's plenty of video at Liveleak with all the dates included when submitted. The videos don't lie...this was always a very violent overthrow.


http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=902_1390172999
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=4c3_1393416533
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9aa_1390153336

I've included one additional video of what the radical neo-nazi protesters were like before they put on masks. It may surprise you. This was back in September before there was a protest movement. This is what they got up to. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=502_1379345113

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Response to go west young man (Reply #38)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 11:41 PM

39. That is revisionist to the core, go west.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_Euromaidan

The police dispersed them near the end of November. The protesters fought back, defending themselves against police repression, on 1st of December. It was calm thereafter. It wasn't until the Jan 16 anti-protest law was illegally passed that things got tense again and the Maidan protesters started building barricades and arming themselves with medieval era type implements (certainly no heavy guns).

Had there been no crackdown we'd still be watching a video feed of people standing around in the cold smoking... but Crimea probably wouldn't have been annexed. I wouldn't be surprised if we find out in the end that Right Sector was being paid to instigate by Russian elements.

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #39)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 11:51 PM

40. According to your own post..

 

I count 47 days between Dec. 1 and Jan. 16. That is not peaceful for months. That is peaceful for 1 months and a half. Even then it wasn't very peaceful. And the early protests were incredibly violent with incendiary petrol bombs being thrown at police who seemed to be showing restraint. People can decide for themselves as there is plenty of video evidence out there on which factions were demonstrating the most violence.

As for your theory that Russia is behind the Far right groups....that sounds a bit tin foil. Especially in light of the fact the hard right wingers were throwing out the pro Russian government.

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Response to go west young man (Reply #40)

Wed Mar 26, 2014, 12:00 AM

41. OK, weeks. Or, if you count the days of protest, 55 days.

55 days of peace. 1 day of mass rioting. And actually it makes perfect sense for fascist Russians to hire elements, it's called PSYOPS, CONTELPRO. The anti-protest laws were drafted by Kremlin friendly parliament people and were very similar to the kinds of laws Putin put into effect in Russia after the Russian election protests. Interestingly in the Russian protests United Russian thugs were sent in to crack down on those protesters. So there is no reason to think Russia wouldn't do that, it makes more sense for Russia to instigate in that way.

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #41)

Wed Mar 26, 2014, 10:55 AM

42. Man Josh,

 

your giving those Right Sector guys a lot of credit! With your theory they were were apparently brilliant enough to be able to get $5 billion from the US and NATO..all the while, while working for the Russian government.

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Response to go west young man (Reply #32)

Thu Mar 27, 2014, 02:55 PM

49. Now they say they only shot at police



Sniper duels on the Maidan
When Fria Tider asked Skillt about rumors that the Ukrainian opposition itself may have been behind the shootings of protestors on the Maidan, he says that he is aware of them, but puts no stock in them. However, he said he has spoken to two people who sniped at the police on the Maidan Square during the riots. “They used Saiga semi-automatic rifles equipped with telescopic sights, and were positioned on the third floor of the Trade Unions Building on Maidan Square,” Skillt said. ”Their mission was to take out Berkut’s snipers,” he added.

He also told us that he recently ran into a man in an American uniform, carrying an American-made rifle. “It was a bit odd, but it turned out he was Ukrainian,” Skillt said. “He had a modified, short-barrel M-16 with a telescopic sight. We said a quick hello.”

http://www.friatider.se/swede-patrols-ukraines-streets-with-right-wing-paramilitaries

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #25)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 04:41 PM

28. Of course they won't...... or they would have done it already. nt

 

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Response to rdharma (Reply #28)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 04:53 PM

29. McVey's militia is up in Alaska somewhere.

Why aren't they and anyone who promulgates the Turner Diaries under arrest? The USA has no moral superiority here. Nor does Russia for that matter. That attack on the flash mob in Russia has gone quietly ignored here...

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #29)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 05:29 PM

30. Well, then maybe you start your own thread on that off topic red herring..... nt

 

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Response to rdharma (Reply #30)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 07:00 PM

33. Over 24 hours...

It'd sink in GD.

But your concern is noted.

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #22)

Thu Mar 27, 2014, 11:48 AM

46. Who says it was the interim government?

 

According to story A, it was a death squad assassination.

According to story B, it was riot police - of the same police forces that accuse the Ukrainian Nazi of murdering 20 captive police officers during the Maidan riots, at the time when the police were still working for the legitimately elected government of Yanukovich.

According to you - quick to convert anything into your line of the day - it's the "interim government" that gets the credit. As if anything's clear in this situation of chaos following the coup (backed by the U.S.).

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Response to jakeXT (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 07:44 PM

37. The article I read this afternoon in Korespondent had a 3rd variant.

The fatal wounds were self-inflicted.

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Response to jakeXT (Original post)

Thu Mar 27, 2014, 11:49 AM

47. So, um, which of these mutually exclusive stories?

 

I guess things are chaotic now, eh, but at least in this one case the right fugitive murderer was hit. Nevertheless... disturbing!

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Response to JackRiddler (Reply #47)

Thu Mar 27, 2014, 12:02 PM

48. One should be able to determine if he was shot in the leg or not, but I couldn't find a good picture

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