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Tue Mar 11, 2014, 06:05 PM

 

Burglars Steal $600k From Joel Osteen's Church (ONE weekend's collection plate)

Source: UK Daily Mail

Safe at the Houston megachurch was broken into meaning that cash, checks and credit card slips from masses on March 8 and 9 were stolen
Online donations and those left in collection boxes were not affected
Church has not released the official total saying that the money in the safe had not yet been counted but reports estimate it is around $600,000
Lakewood Church has their collections insured so they will get the money back
Last weekend marked the first Sunday of Lent, explaining high donation volume though they have about 43,500 parishioners every week

Local station KENS5 reports that the stolen collection did not account for all of the money that the church made that weekend, however.
Any donations that were made online or via drop box were not taken, though the church did not state how much the untouched total amounted to.
'We were heartbroken to learn today that funds were stolen from the church over the weekend,' read a note released to followers.

'This includes cash, checks and envelopes containing written credit card information, and it is limited only to those funds contributed in the church services on Saturday, March 8 and Sunday, March 9, 2014.'
Lakewood Church itself chose not to release the numbers and said that the amount in the safe had not yet been counted so they are unsure how the figure was reached.



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2578525/Burglars-steal-600-000-Joel-Osteens-church-thats-just-ONE-weekends-collection.html

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Reply Burglars Steal $600k From Joel Osteen's Church (ONE weekend's collection plate) (Original post)
big_dog Mar 2014 OP
olddad56 Mar 2014 #1
big_dog Mar 2014 #6
tomm2thumbs Mar 2014 #14
sarcasmo Mar 2014 #45
durablend Mar 2014 #66
woodsprite Mar 2014 #77
dbackjon Mar 2014 #92
woodsprite Mar 2014 #93
freshwest Mar 2014 #105
warrant46 Mar 2014 #2
tanyev Mar 2014 #3
Javaman Mar 2014 #81
LibGranny Mar 2014 #4
Lars39 Mar 2014 #5
sarcasmo Mar 2014 #44
Vashta Nerada Mar 2014 #7
tomm2thumbs Mar 2014 #13
AnalystInParadise Mar 2014 #18
Julian Englis Mar 2014 #22
warrant46 Mar 2014 #25
classof56 Mar 2014 #27
warrant46 Mar 2014 #28
Moostache Mar 2014 #34
defacto7 Mar 2014 #39
durablend Mar 2014 #59
Vashta Nerada Mar 2014 #32
AnalystInParadise Mar 2014 #107
Vashta Nerada Mar 2014 #108
beerandjesus Mar 2014 #70
hamsterjill Mar 2014 #79
gopiscrap Mar 2014 #75
Marrah_G Mar 2014 #100
defacto7 Mar 2014 #40
Nihil Mar 2014 #65
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Heidi Mar 2014 #82
YarnAddict Mar 2014 #83
Heidi Mar 2014 #86
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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 06:08 PM

1. $600,000 in one weekend. It would really kill them to have to pay taxes.

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Response to olddad56 (Reply #1)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 06:14 PM

6. that's 31.2 million a year tax free

 

from just one Church in Houston!!

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Response to big_dog (Reply #6)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 06:42 PM

14. they oughta pray for better security


oh wait, God must've wanted this to happen, so it's all good

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Response to big_dog (Reply #6)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 10:37 PM

45. What do you think it costs to sit in the front row?

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Response to sarcasmo (Reply #45)

Wed Mar 12, 2014, 07:47 AM

66. Super Bowl tickets probably cheaper! n/t

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Response to big_dog (Reply #6)

Wed Mar 12, 2014, 10:04 AM

77. That's not a church. That's a football stadium.

And I think Jesus might even agree with me.

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Response to woodsprite (Reply #77)

Wed Mar 12, 2014, 04:52 PM

92. It used to be Houston's NBA Arena

 

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Response to dbackjon (Reply #92)

Wed Mar 12, 2014, 05:47 PM

93. Wouldn't it be something if whomever stole the 600K actually donated it to charity. n/t

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Response to woodsprite (Reply #77)

Fri Mar 14, 2014, 07:40 AM

105. It was a sports stadium before the bought it, right. It was the Summit and a popular venue.



Before being acquired by Lakewood, tenants to the Compaq Center arena, once called The Summit, included the Houston Rockets, the Houston Aeros, and the Houston Comets.

Lakewood had humble beginnings under John Osteen:

Lakewood Church was founded by John Osteen and his second wife, Dolores (Dodie) on Mother's Day, May 10, 1959 inside an abandoned feed store in northeast Houston.[5] John was a Southern Baptist minister, but after experiencing a baptism in the Holy Spirit, he founded Lakewood as a church for charismatic Baptists. The church soon dropped "Baptist" from its name and became non-denominational. From the beginning, Lakewood was racially inclusive. By 1979, attendance was over five thousand, and the church was becoming prominent among Pentecostals and Charismatics. John and Dodie created and hosted Lakewood's weekly television program, which could be seen in 100 countries worldwide. Upon John Osteen's death on January 23, 1999 after suffering from a heart attack, his youngest son, Joel Osteen, became pastor.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lakewood_Church

They had to have several services on Wednesdays and Sundays because there were so many people going there when John ran the church. He was a simple man, it seemed. Lakewood Church was called 'The Oasis of Love.' They never discussed social issues at the time, not that I heard of, anyway. I have no idea what the son talks about.

Then Joel took over with what some considered rock star looks and a much better stage pressence than his dad. A number of people do not like him at all. But the church got bigger and bigger until their old place couldn't hold them.

These megachurches have a huge political influence. I avoid them, they freak me out. They are in every state, mostly in the suburbs, AFAIK. I don't know of any institution that equates to these groups, with thousands of people coming sucessively on their days of worship that Democrats talk about. Members of these churches always vote, as they believe it makes a difference. They are right, but we seem to have ceded the nation to them and not voted as much.

Democrats no longer get into this venue to push causes. At one time the black churches organized the much of the civil rights activities. Democrats don't capitalize on their religious affliations, since we believe in the separation of church and state. That attitude used to be the norm, even in churches until the 80s. The GOP does not believe in SOCS and organizations like these, directly or indirectly with their teachings, can cause GOP victories. Some of these churches affect the world view of their members very much.

Just some information about this group. Because I was invited to attend the old place by some of my coworkers who were hippies. They were happy there and eventually moved to some place in the Rocky Mountains. They were good union members back in those days, as well. At the time I visited with them, the congregation was more than half black.

I really have no opinion on this church, it's not my thing, but these churches do have political influence. I don't debate on this issue, because I am not defending it, I am just reporting anecdotally and what I have been told since.

P. S. There were some great rock concerts at the Summit. I was sad to see it sold off.



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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 06:09 PM

2. Cue the Violins

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 06:11 PM

3. Whew, it's insured.

I'd hate to think that the Osteens would have to fly coach on their next Christmas ski vacation.

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Response to tanyev (Reply #3)

Wed Mar 12, 2014, 10:37 AM

81. there is a sense of irony in insuring a church.

just sayin'.

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 06:14 PM

4. They save more than that on taxes that they don't pay! No pity here!

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 06:14 PM

5. That's some high-level grifting right there.

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Response to Lars39 (Reply #5)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 10:36 PM

44. Right on Lars, high level stuff.

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 06:16 PM

7. Joel Osteen steals $600,000 from his congregation each week.

 

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Response to Vashta Nerada (Reply #7)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 06:41 PM

13. that's the bigger story.... agreed!

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Response to Vashta Nerada (Reply #7)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 07:46 PM

18. LMFAO

 

You really can't ever stop your hatred of Christianity can you? Bless your heart.

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Response to AnalystInParadise (Reply #18)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 08:12 PM

22. You're projecting there, Analyst

No one attacked Christianity here. Folks attacked what they perceived as the materialism of one church. Surely, this mega-church is not synonymous with Christianity. I would argue that to many Christians this Church is actually anti ethical to Christianity.

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Response to Julian Englis (Reply #22)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 08:28 PM

25. This isn't Christianity

It's a mafia style criminal enterprise run by a charlatan

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Response to warrant46 (Reply #25)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 08:37 PM

27. Amen!

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Response to classof56 (Reply #27)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 08:39 PM

28. +1000

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Response to warrant46 (Reply #25)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 09:17 PM

34. You win the interwebs!

+1 with a bunch of zeroes....

Exactly right, these mega churches are absolutely a racket and the government should prosecute them all in a RICO case...

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Response to Julian Englis (Reply #22)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 10:09 PM

39. I have 3 different ways to go with your post...

Either an argument that includes a Scottish theme or to ask how big is a congregation with real Christians?... or how big is your church?



oh, never mind.

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Response to defacto7 (Reply #39)

Wed Mar 12, 2014, 06:53 AM

59. Clearly what he's saying

All those poor victims OBVIOUSLY love god more than everyone else from the size of their...checks.

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Response to AnalystInParadise (Reply #18)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 09:14 PM

32. Wow.

 

This has absolutely nothing to do with xtianity.



Look at those poor, oppressed christians.

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Response to Vashta Nerada (Reply #32)

Fri Mar 14, 2014, 08:49 PM

107. Your "tolerance"

 

is noted again.

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Response to AnalystInParadise (Reply #107)

Fri Mar 14, 2014, 09:00 PM

108. I have no tolerance for religion.

 

I've been honest about that since the get-go.

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Response to AnalystInParadise (Reply #18)

Wed Mar 12, 2014, 08:45 AM

70. Osteen's "prosperity gospel" is pure heresy.

Christians should be MOST outraged by this. We unbelievers don't really have a dog in the fight.

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Response to beerandjesus (Reply #70)

Wed Mar 12, 2014, 10:15 AM

79. You're right, and I am outraged.

This is not church; it's entertainment.

There is a lot of need in my beloved Texas, and that $600k per weekend could sure be put to good use.

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Response to AnalystInParadise (Reply #18)

Wed Mar 12, 2014, 09:53 AM

75. His brand of theology doesn't represent Christianity to me

his is a gay hating, woman bashing institution that doesn't give a shit about the poor!

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Response to AnalystInParadise (Reply #18)

Thu Mar 13, 2014, 12:36 PM

100. They are attacking a con artist who bilks his congregation out of millions every year

Nothing but a con artist.

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Response to Vashta Nerada (Reply #7)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 10:15 PM

40. I'm not sure I would blame Osteen or any other con-artist...

It's the gullibility of those people that's the real crime, 43,000 seats of pure stupid. I'm sure there are a "few" out there just for the entertainment value but THAT would be a business which should be taxed. But oh no, most of these people are deluded enough to pay big bucks under the pressure of fear and greed. There's the crime... ignorance.

as the rest of the world laughs and laughs..........

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Response to defacto7 (Reply #40)

Wed Mar 12, 2014, 07:46 AM

65. I blame any con-artist or other low-life who exploits the vulnerable.

 

Gullibility & wilful ignorance come into it but anyone who builds their entire
dynastic lifestyle on taking money from the feeble-minded whilst denying their
due payments to the state/society that hosts them deserves serious punishment.


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Response to Nihil (Reply #65)

Wed Mar 12, 2014, 11:32 PM

95. Even though I said otherwise as an example,

I really do agree with you. I just don't blame the cons exclusively. I also blame the state of science, math and sociology education in America, plus a massive dumbing down of the masses by a greedy and unethical media and its masters, plus the industry of religion which plays for the bucks just as much as any taxed corporation but has far more successful and subtle ways of collecting profits. It's not just the cons at the podium, it's a web of supply, demand and belief.

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Response to defacto7 (Reply #95)

Thu Mar 13, 2014, 03:42 AM

98. That I fully agree with.

 

> I just don't blame the cons exclusively.
> I also blame the state of science, math and sociology education in America,
> plus a massive dumbing down of the masses by a greedy and unethical media and its masters,
> plus the industry of religion which plays for the bucks just as much as any taxed corporation
> but has far more successful and subtle ways of collecting profits.

I didn't mean that the con artists were solely to blame, just that I view the people
who take advantage of an already dismal situation (purely for personal profit) as
the lowest of the low.


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Response to Vashta Nerada (Reply #7)

Wed Mar 12, 2014, 10:38 AM

82. He certainly takes it under false pretenses.

I'm not sure about the legal distinction between theft and taking under false pretenses, but I'm pretty confident that none of that money ends up in god's hands.

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Response to Heidi (Reply #82)

Wed Mar 12, 2014, 10:59 AM

83. What false pretenses?

 

Just curious. Don't know anything about him.

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Response to YarnAddict (Reply #83)

Wed Mar 12, 2014, 11:54 AM

86. That people are giving their money to "the Lord."

...when we give the Lord our tithes and our offerings...
http://www.lakewoodchurch.com/Pages/Give.aspx

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Response to Heidi (Reply #86)

Wed Mar 12, 2014, 12:50 PM

88. I think everyone who give to a church

 

hears the same thing, and understands what it means.

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Response to YarnAddict (Reply #88)

Wed Mar 12, 2014, 01:27 PM

89. Ah. Were you raised Pentecostal or Southern Baptist*?

Because the general interpretation of Biblical literalists is that tithes actually end up in god's hands. The 700 Club is a good example of how well-meaning people can easily be deceived by charlatans preaching and profiting from prosperity gospel.

*I was raised Southern Baptist.

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Response to Heidi (Reply #89)

Wed Mar 12, 2014, 02:25 PM

90. Nope

 

A different brand of "fundy." We all heard that line, and knew that "giving to the Lord's work" meant trusting the pastor and elders to use our money to promote their agenda. At that time--very, very small, poor, and mostly elderly church--it mostly meant supporting the minister and his family, and paying the heat, electricity, and building maintenance for the church. (Didn't even have a phone in the church back then!!)

Things have changed a lot since those days, and now I'm sure people understand that their $$ might go to "outreach," or youth ministry, or maybe even (!) a food bank.

All in all, I don't have a problem with anything a person chooses to spend his/her money on, so this doesn't bother me at all.

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Response to YarnAddict (Reply #90)

Wed Mar 12, 2014, 11:57 PM

96. Here's that word pretense again...

Most of these people are buying something they are told is one thing, but what they get are words that deceive and may even be harmful. I'm not one who thinks it is ethical or should be legal to sell a snake oil tonic that cures all common and uncommon ills, gout, cancer, the common cold, malaria, bad breath, and debt, when all it turns out to be is whiskey and horse urine. Snake oil tonic is all that those preachers are selling, it's just in media form.

If people KNOW they are paying for entertainment that's one thing, more power to them, and the sellers should be taxed. But if they are duped into spending money for something they think is real but is only an empty bottle, that's the pretense, that's the snake oil, that's extortion.

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Response to defacto7 (Reply #96)

Thu Mar 13, 2014, 08:42 AM

99. Well, I didn't use the word "pretense"

 

and I don't know what you think they may think they are getting that they aren't. To be honest, I have very little idea of who Joel Osteen is. Is he the one that had some huge book about 10 years ago, "The (something) Life?" Is he the one whose son committed suicide? I honestly don't know.

If he is guaranteeing admission to the "good" afterlife, based on how much $$$ an individual sends him, then, yes, he is a fraud. If the pitch is more like, send $$$ to keep the lights on, or to translate the Bible into some obscure dialect, or whatever, then people are willingly giving to do those things, and I don't see a problem.

I've mentioned before on this board, I'm pretty much a live-and-let-live person. I don't see a problem with people spending THEIR OWN $$$ on whatever they want, I don't have a problem with roadside memorials, or with someone's clothing, or any choices they make that don't affect me. And this is one of those things. I don't feel a need to protect anyone from their own stupid choices.

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Response to Vashta Nerada (Reply #7)

Wed Mar 12, 2014, 11:00 AM

84. It's not theft, when they willingly give n/t

 

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Response to YarnAddict (Reply #84)

Thu Mar 13, 2014, 12:01 AM

97. see post #96

Not theft, extortion.

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Response to Vashta Nerada (Reply #7)

Wed Mar 12, 2014, 07:37 PM

94. He guilts that sum out of his self-righteous congregation each week.

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 06:22 PM

8. What!

No angels of the Lord protecting the shekels and alms? The $ figure is probably much higher for the week-end draw seeing how only the safe was broken into- then , again, perhaps there's some insurance fraud going on. But Joel wouldn't do that being a man of the cloth

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 06:26 PM

9. Juanita Jean also felt that $600,000 per week was outrageous

http://www.juanitajean.com/2014/03/11/600000-a-week/

Lakewood church and Pastor Joel Osteen got ripped off on Sunday night for the approximately $600,000 in the church’s safe that was taken in on Sunday. I dunno know if my math is correct, but that means they bring in about $32 million a year just on Sundays. Tax free.

Bubba Jr calls Lakewood, which meets in Houston’s old basketball arena, “Six Flags Over Jesus.”

Osteen makes even more money with books, trinkets, and assorted whatnots.

Ain’t it time to tax churches?

I agree with Juanita Jean on this

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #9)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 06:30 PM

10. it would take Jesus a while to overturn the money tables in that church

but it does sound like a job he might enjoy.

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Response to rurallib (Reply #10)

Wed Mar 12, 2014, 08:44 AM

69. Hahahaha, great post!

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Response to beerandjesus (Reply #69)

Wed Mar 12, 2014, 12:11 PM

87. Thank you and a hearty welcome to DU

hope you enjoy this place

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #9)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 06:31 PM

11. all of the trinkets generate 55 million on their own/each book 13 million

 

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #9)

Wed Mar 12, 2014, 02:44 AM

52. seems like they're trying to get out of paying taxes on it

 

That's pretty disgusting.

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 06:40 PM

12. Inside job. nt

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Response to SDjack (Reply #12)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 06:44 PM

15. Yup. They'll ask for more donations to cover the losses, and they'll be swamped with more money.

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Response to SDjack (Reply #12)

Wed Mar 12, 2014, 07:40 AM

62. Highly likely IMO

 

The easy way to double your money: Insure it then steal it.

(And all of it is tax-free!)

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Response to SDjack (Reply #12)

Wed Mar 12, 2014, 08:28 AM

68. Exactly what I was about to say

I wonder if the "burglary" loot is being used to offset church losses in some other department?

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Response to SDjack (Reply #12)

Wed Mar 12, 2014, 09:05 AM

74. Bingo.

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Response to SDjack (Reply #12)

Wed Mar 12, 2014, 04:17 PM

91. Maybe Joel Osteen needed to pay off his drug dealers and prostitutes

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 07:29 PM

16. It was all insured. That says it all!

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Response to LuckyLib (Reply #16)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 08:23 PM

24. Yes, it does.

n/t

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Response to LuckyLib (Reply #16)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 10:18 PM

41. And because they don't know how much was there

(they didn't count it), I wonder how much it's insured for? Maybe.... more?

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 07:31 PM

17. On the bright side: there's always next week...

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 07:50 PM

19. So are taxpayers going to reimburse them? That sounds like a RW thing to do. nt

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 07:51 PM

20. Bigoted scammer

 

nt

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 07:53 PM

21. They insure the collection.

They are worse than I thought, this has so little to do with faith and much to do with ego and idolatry.

That man gives me the creeps....

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Response to TNNurse (Reply #21)

Wed Mar 12, 2014, 09:01 AM

72. Creepy for sure

That guy has always creeped me out. That perpetually frozen smile with the squinty eyes... he looks like an evangelical ventriloquist's dummy. Cue the Twilight Zone!

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 08:21 PM

23. I live in Houston

and I cannot cite a single instance of hearing their name associated with any charitable anything. Not once. What the hell do they do with all that money?

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Response to Sweet Freedom (Reply #23)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 09:43 PM

35. My guess would be for missionaries.

I'm here in Houston, too, and have to agree with you. I can't think of anything local they've ever sponsored for charity.

As for their "church", it'll always be The Summit to me!

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Response to kentauros (Reply #35)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 09:48 PM

38. Me too! That's The Summit, not a church.

Hey neighbor! I saw The Stones there in 98. That show sounded so great!

You're probably right about the missionaries.

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Response to Sweet Freedom (Reply #38)

Wed Mar 12, 2014, 12:00 AM

48. I'm trying to remember who I saw at The Summit.

I know I saw Genesis before Gabriel left and that might have been at The Summit. But most shows I saw either at the old Colosseum, The Music Hall, the auditorium at UH (Devo and Oingo Boingo several times there), and a couple at Rice, such as Laurie Anderson, and negativland.

After a look on the wiki page for Lakewood Church, I don't see anything about missionaries. And what little they do offer locally doesn't sound like it would add up to the tens of millions they bring in every year, even after paying staff.

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Response to Sweet Freedom (Reply #23)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 09:47 PM

37. Jesus wants you to be rich! nt

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 08:32 PM

26. No wonder why he lives in luxury.

 

Likely an inside job.

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 08:47 PM

29. $600K????????

Most churches don't get that in a whole year.

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 09:11 PM

30. There's no honor among thieves

Instant karma's gonna get you...

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 09:13 PM

31. Suckers..........

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 09:15 PM

33. I can't stand Osteen.His old man was a sleazeball.

He, Joel, got a sweetheart deal with the City of Houston for a 30 year lease at a dollar a year of the former Summit. I have fond memories of many rock concerts at The Summit.

I don't think they give a single dime to charity.

His dad growled on TV commercials "Come to the oasis of love!" Grumpy old bastard.


Joel's wife is a real piece of work too.

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 09:46 PM

36. In the Houston Chronicle article -

it noted that people concerned about their donations should contact Customer Service. I thought that was the most notable part of the story - this "church" has a Customer Service Department!

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Response to LiberalElite (Reply #36)

Wed Mar 12, 2014, 07:46 AM

64. Wonder if it's in this country

Or they outsourced it to India?

To save money for more....um....giving....to people in need....of course...

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 10:19 PM

42. $10.5 million house .... praise Jesus

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 10:34 PM

43. It takes big money to maintain houses, cars and planes.

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 10:51 PM

46. insurance scam (NT)

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 11:06 PM

47. Robin Hood lives

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Wed Mar 12, 2014, 12:41 AM

49. Osteens are a smarter Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker.

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Wed Mar 12, 2014, 02:05 AM

50. JESUS CHRIST !!!!!!!

I guess the burglars didn't show them professional respect!!!!

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Wed Mar 12, 2014, 02:41 AM

51. Somebody's going to miss a yacht payment.

Tragic.

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Wed Mar 12, 2014, 03:03 AM

53. that was for the holiday

Which is always packed to the gills...I wonder what their normal intake isis. Using the numbers cited for the day is about $17.14 per person

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Wed Mar 12, 2014, 03:21 AM

54. All part of god's plan

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Wed Mar 12, 2014, 05:56 AM

55. God helps those that help themselves!!!! And help themselves they did!!!!:):)

It's sad that good people get sucked in by these Grifters ( love this word!!). Why don't they just treat some down and out to a feed rather than give money to these pricks!!!

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Response to Theyletmeeatcake2 (Reply #55)

Wed Mar 12, 2014, 10:27 AM

80. No doubt.

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Wed Mar 12, 2014, 06:27 AM

56. Sounds like an inside job.

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Wed Mar 12, 2014, 06:47 AM

57. Ahhh

Ignorant suckers. There sure are tons of them

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Wed Mar 12, 2014, 06:50 AM

58. Anyone else wonder

If Osteen does have a direct line to "god", said higher power couldn't stop the theft (lightning bolts or...something...).

Maybe he doesn't like you after all, Joel...

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Wed Mar 12, 2014, 07:18 AM

60. "Lord works in mysterious ways"

 

Maybe someone who worked for the millionaire gave the money to a charity that does actual work to improve the lives of the poor. It is amazing that people give money to a snake oil salesman. He is a terrible example of what religion should be. Guess he hasn't read Jesus' words in a long time, I think they should investigate his tax exempt status. Can't buy your way into Heaven sheeple.

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Wed Mar 12, 2014, 07:30 AM

61. Not counted? B.S.

Thieves count their take before they go home.
I would bet they have a special room w/naked people (can't steal from the thieves just like the drug dealers) that count the take before they are taken back to their cells.
Does anyone doubt that these crooks should be taxed?
Jesus hated wealth yet these "Christians" live in $10+ million dollar homes, steal at least 10's of millions of $$ from many who have little (especially on the telephone "tithing", my impoverished brother saw Olsteen after getting home from heart attack and Believes he is great. He rarely reads but Mom buys the Olsteen books for him...yuck.

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Wed Mar 12, 2014, 07:45 AM

63. Dude can't say two words without blinking

 

Excessive blinking is often a "tell" of lying. This guy could power Houston if they attached a generator to his eyelids. I don't know how people can stand to watch him.

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Response to Thor_MN (Reply #63)

Wed Mar 12, 2014, 07:53 AM

67. I think he's trying to hear the guy talking to him on his earpiece...maybe it's god talking!!!!

I 've always thought this guy's too slick and his presentation too polished ...remember that character Steve Martin played in that movie(?) of his .

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Wed Mar 12, 2014, 08:54 AM

71. Let's pretend they walked the walk, not just talked the talk for a moment...

That would mean they'd be using all that money to help the sick, elderly, poor and disadvantaged. That's be around $32 million dollars a year to help people and rebuild communities. We're talking real money here people! That's enough your good works should be standing out and changing communities and lives in a very noticeable way. And we're just talking about the tithes from within the church building here. Not the sale of his books and other such propaganda. From which he no doubt makes more than enough to keep the ministries themselves funded. Imagine the good all that money could do?!

Instead we have one fat cat and his wife living it up in opulent luxury in their $10.5 million dollar River Oaks mansion, and blowing smoke up tens of thousands of peoples butts for a living. A tax free living, thank you very much.

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Wed Mar 12, 2014, 09:03 AM

73. I hope they distribute the cash among shelters and food pantries.

Let it do the good it was supposedly intended for.

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Wed Mar 12, 2014, 09:57 AM

76. Is there any U.S. source for the story?

 

I wouldn't trust the Daily Mail to tell me whether it was day or night without looking out to check.

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Wed Mar 12, 2014, 10:06 AM

78. Prosperity Gospel in action!

The Lord helps those who helps themselves, and somebody sure helped themselves to the contents of the safe.

Oh well, sheep are made to be shorn.

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Wed Mar 12, 2014, 11:19 AM

85. I think I need to volunteer as an usher there.

I could pay off my student loans in one weekend.

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Thu Mar 13, 2014, 01:06 PM

101. Pray harder, Joel!

 

That oughta help, right?!

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Thu Mar 13, 2014, 02:01 PM

102. I'm guessing a family member. nt

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Fri Mar 14, 2014, 05:05 AM

103. Insurance Co. will deny claim

And will drag it out for years...oh wait.

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Fri Mar 14, 2014, 05:58 AM

104. Just God's way of redistributing income!

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Fri Mar 14, 2014, 12:00 PM

106. would imagine lots of checks--those would be hard to cash

so many of them will stop payment and just double the amount the next week
meanwhile the rev files insurance claim for total amount

nice scam
really nice scam

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