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Fri Feb 14, 2014, 10:34 PM

Mass killer Anders Breivik threatens hunger strike for better video games, end of “torture”

Source: euronews.com

Norwegian mass killer Anders Breivik has threatened to start a hunger strike over his living conditions in jail, it has emerged.

Breivik, who killed 77 people in 2011, compared prison to “torture” and bemoaned, among other things, the lack of an up-to-date video games console in his cell.

His comments were made in a four-page hand-written letter to penitentiary officials, which contains a dozen requests, including making his jail time compliant with European regulations. They also tackle issues of fundamental rights, such as a daily walk and communication.

Breivik requests the Playstation 2 he has access to is replaced by a more recent Playstation 3. “Other inmates have access to video games for adults while I can only play the less interesting children video games. One example is ‘Rayman Revolution,’ a game designed for 3-year-olds,” the 35-year-old wrote.

Read more: http://www.euronews.com/2014/02/14/far-right-terrorist-breivik-threatens-hunger-strike-for-better-video-games-end-/



Will this person actually be released from prison in his 50's? A 21 year sentence for killing all these children. WTF?

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Reply Mass killer Anders Breivik threatens hunger strike for better video games, end of “torture” (Original post)
Seedersandleechers Feb 2014 OP
DJ13 Feb 2014 #1
alp227 Feb 2014 #2
rug Feb 2014 #3
Ilsa Feb 2014 #4
fujiyama Feb 2014 #5
davidthegnome Feb 2014 #11
Tx4obama Feb 2014 #6
petronius Feb 2014 #35
diabeticman Feb 2014 #7
TheMathieu Feb 2014 #14
diabeticman Feb 2014 #17
whathehell Feb 2014 #26
marble falls Feb 2014 #34
BootinUp Feb 2014 #8
kestrel91316 Feb 2014 #9
AllyCat Feb 2014 #10
Ash_F Feb 2014 #12
TheMathieu Feb 2014 #13
Yo_Mama Feb 2014 #27
fierywoman Feb 2014 #15
guyton Feb 2014 #20
ButterflyBlood Feb 2014 #23
The Philosopher Feb 2014 #46
mindwalker_i Feb 2014 #16
Nolimit Feb 2014 #18
ButterflyBlood Feb 2014 #24
Heddi Feb 2014 #31
mindwalker_i Feb 2014 #37
woodsprite Feb 2014 #47
awoke_in_2003 Feb 2014 #36
mindwalker_i Feb 2014 #38
awoke_in_2003 Feb 2014 #39
mindwalker_i Feb 2014 #43
awoke_in_2003 Feb 2014 #44
mindwalker_i Feb 2014 #45
tech3149 Feb 2014 #19
pampango Feb 2014 #21
jsr Feb 2014 #22
Yo_Mama Feb 2014 #25
secondvariety Feb 2014 #28
DinahMoeHum Feb 2014 #29
struggle4progress Feb 2014 #30
VA_Jill Feb 2014 #32
Chan790 Feb 2014 #33
Dawson Leery Feb 2014 #40
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Response to Seedersandleechers (Original post)

Fri Feb 14, 2014, 10:37 PM

1. Rayman is cruel and unusual punishment

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Response to Seedersandleechers (Original post)

Fri Feb 14, 2014, 10:38 PM

2. Keep it up and FINISH THAT STRIKE you mass murdering scum... nt

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Response to Seedersandleechers (Original post)

Fri Feb 14, 2014, 10:42 PM

3. Maybe he'll settle for access to Stormfront.

 

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Response to Seedersandleechers (Original post)

Fri Feb 14, 2014, 10:46 PM

4. I hope he starves himself. nt

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Response to Seedersandleechers (Original post)

Fri Feb 14, 2014, 10:56 PM

5. I know everyone on this site is a Europhile

but this is a good example of a country being way too soft on criminals.

Sorry, murderers getting access to video games? What the fuck? This guy should be in solitary at best though I think in extreme cases like his, the death penalty would have been fully and absolutely justified.

Some criminals simply cannot and should not be rehabilitated. We don't need him spouting his garbage for the next twenty years or whatever "punishment" Norway hands out.

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Response to fujiyama (Reply #5)

Sat Feb 15, 2014, 12:25 AM

11. Inaccurate.

Not even close to "everyone on this site" is a Europhile. That said - I agree with your other points.

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Response to Seedersandleechers (Original post)

Fri Feb 14, 2014, 10:59 PM

6. They can keep him in prison till he dies, he was sentenced to 'preventive detention'


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The indeterminate penalty (civilian penal code), called "preventive detention" (Norwegian: forvaring), is set at up to 21 years' imprisonment, with no eligibility for parole for a time period not exceeding 10 years. If the prisoner is still considered dangerous after serving the original sentence, the detention can be extended by five years at a time. Renewal of the detention every five years can in theory result in actual life imprisonment. Preventive detention is used when the prisoner is deemed a danger to society and there is a great chance of his committing violent crimes in the future. However, after the minimum time period has elapsed, the offender can petition for parole once every year, and this may be granted if it is determined that he is no longer a danger to society.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_imprisonment_in_Norway




Anders Behring Breivik

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He was sentenced to 21 years in prison, in a form of preventive detention that required a minimum of 10 years incarceration and the possibility of an extension of that incarceration for as long as he is deemed a danger to society.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Behring_Breivik


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Response to Tx4obama (Reply #6)

Sat Feb 15, 2014, 05:09 PM

35. Thank you for posting that - I had not realized how the sentence actually worked...

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Response to Seedersandleechers (Original post)

Fri Feb 14, 2014, 11:02 PM

7. A friend whose mother is from Norway explained to my wife that he will be up for review in 21 years

and chances our he will be sentence to another 21 year sentence. The thing about Norway that our American minds cannot begin to understand they actually try to REALLY Rehabilitate their criminals.


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Response to diabeticman (Reply #7)

Sat Feb 15, 2014, 12:33 AM

14. Mass murderers belong in a small, confined space 24/7 for the rest of their miserable lives.

 

I'm sorry my small "American mind" cannot comprehend the lunacy of this mass murderer's pampering.

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Response to TheMathieu (Reply #14)

Sat Feb 15, 2014, 12:53 AM

17. I DID NOT INSULT you I just simply meant our American Mind set. Sorry if you don't like this point

of view. I personally don't understand it myself but my wife has that rehabilitation mind.

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Response to diabeticman (Reply #17)

Sat Feb 15, 2014, 10:35 AM

26. I disagree..

I'd say you did insult him, yourself, and other Americans, first by negatively stereotyping some

supposed "American Mindset" and then presuming he possesses it because, unlike many others here,

he doesn't genuflect to Europe and dares to criticize their policies when he thinks they're wrong.

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Response to TheMathieu (Reply #14)

Sat Feb 15, 2014, 04:51 PM

34. Got revenge on your mind. Prisons are for punishment and rehabilitation. There's no point to....

punishing all prisoners because of a perceived danger of a relatively few murders/psychopaths/sociopaths.

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Response to Seedersandleechers (Original post)

Fri Feb 14, 2014, 11:07 PM

8. Its just no fun playing vid games where you don't shoot people, lol. nt

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Response to Seedersandleechers (Original post)

Fri Feb 14, 2014, 11:10 PM

9. Go ahead and starve yourself right to death, sweetcakes.

 

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Response to Seedersandleechers (Original post)

Sat Feb 15, 2014, 12:02 AM

10. Where is that little violin of mine?

Sounds like this murderer has too much free time. Wish I could say the same for his victimss.

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Response to Seedersandleechers (Original post)

Sat Feb 15, 2014, 12:29 AM

12. 77 people. Mostly kids.

It still blows my mind.

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Response to Seedersandleechers (Original post)

Sat Feb 15, 2014, 12:31 AM

13. Norway's pampering of this mass murderer is outrageous.

 

Norway gets a lot of policies right, but this is NOT one of them.

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Response to TheMathieu (Reply #13)

Sat Feb 15, 2014, 10:59 AM

27. No, it isn't

Norway has its own standards and its own principles, and their strikingly humane treatment of this man is not for his own benefit (unless he can use these conditions to become more functional), but in support of their own culture. Which is good.

I can't find it within myself to blame any culture which would put such a man to death for his crimes, but I can find it within myself to admire the culture which does not.

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Response to Seedersandleechers (Original post)

Sat Feb 15, 2014, 12:43 AM

15. WTF??? are you kidding???

Weren't video games invented to teach soldiers to kill without remorse?
If true, then WTF is this SOB doing with F-ing MORE video games?
His cell should have projections/slides 24/7 of all the young innocent victims he murdered -- preferably spaced at a rhythm that would make him VERY uncomfortable. THAT would be torture, but I'm sorry, rather deserved torture.
If he goes on a hunger strike, tant pis, peggio per lui.

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Response to fierywoman (Reply #15)

Sat Feb 15, 2014, 10:05 AM

23. Pong was invented to teach soldiers how to kill without remorse?

Nt

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Response to ButterflyBlood (Reply #23)

Sat Feb 15, 2014, 11:45 PM

46. Many a sibling were slain in The Great Pong Wars

has everyone forgotten so soon?

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Response to Seedersandleechers (Original post)

Sat Feb 15, 2014, 12:48 AM

16. Make the fucker play Combat for the Atari 2600

Make him play it FOREVER!

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Response to mindwalker_i (Reply #16)

Sat Feb 15, 2014, 12:58 AM

18. Better yet.

He should have to play this.

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Response to Nolimit (Reply #18)

Sat Feb 15, 2014, 10:07 AM

24. best suggestion ever!

That would no doubt be considered cruel and unusual punishment in the US though.

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Response to Nolimit (Reply #18)

Sat Feb 15, 2014, 03:29 PM

31. rofl. My husband has his old Atari

back in 1997, when we got together, he pulls out the Atari and I'm quite impressed. He pulls out ET as one of the games and I'm automatically in love. Especially since I was 21, and could surely play the game that I could never get past the first screen of when I was 7.

hah.

yah
right

Picked up the first reese peice and was like...okay. now what? And that's it. Same when I was 21 as it was when I was 7.

fuck that game

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Response to Nolimit (Reply #18)

Sat Feb 15, 2014, 06:19 PM

37. Ouch

I think I have just the barest memory of that game coming out.

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Response to Nolimit (Reply #18)

Sun Feb 16, 2014, 09:24 AM

47. I was thinking a Colecovision with "Smurfs: Rescue from Gargamel's Castle" and

"Barney's Hide and Seek". Two of the most annoying games in the world. To this day, I can't stand the song "Tis a gift to be simple".

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Response to mindwalker_i (Reply #16)

Sat Feb 15, 2014, 06:03 PM

36. I was thinking Pong...

 

that would drive him over the edge.

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Response to awoke_in_2003 (Reply #36)

Sat Feb 15, 2014, 06:20 PM

38. Pong was actually kind of fun

But it got boring pretty quickly

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Response to mindwalker_i (Reply #38)

Sat Feb 15, 2014, 06:34 PM

39. I have played games on newer consoles...

 

but I still miss the Atari 2600. I was thinking of getting a refurbed on. I know they sell game packs that have something like 200 classic games on them. My favorite was Decatholon, but you could wear out a joystick fast with that game.

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Response to awoke_in_2003 (Reply #39)

Sat Feb 15, 2014, 10:04 PM

43. There's actually an emulator

It's called Stella, runs under Linux. I have a couple of old Wyco joysticks (atari compatible) so I made the USB joystick adapter from here and it works very well.

Raiders of the Lost Ark was a fun game

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Response to mindwalker_i (Reply #43)

Sat Feb 15, 2014, 10:09 PM

44. Hey, thanks...

 

I can run Ubuntu on my iMac, so I think I will download this.

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Response to awoke_in_2003 (Reply #44)

Sat Feb 15, 2014, 10:54 PM

45. Cool, glad I could help!

You can probably run Ubuntu as a virtual machine under the iMac, then run stella under that. I'm not sure whether VirtualBox is made for Mac though, so I could be wrong.

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Response to Seedersandleechers (Original post)

Sat Feb 15, 2014, 01:45 AM

19. He Anders!

How about a big cup of STFU and a dose of We Don't Give a Fuck what you want.
Better yet, why don't you just go off and FOAD?

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Response to Seedersandleechers (Original post)

Sat Feb 15, 2014, 07:56 AM

21. Always a challenge for a society to decide how to treat its worst criminals.

In many countries the death penalty is ruled out as immoral. Then how punishment is appropriate before it reflects on the punisher? In a "moral" justice system the decision can be difficult.

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Response to Seedersandleechers (Original post)

Sat Feb 15, 2014, 09:40 AM

22. And where is his daily foot massage?

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Response to Seedersandleechers (Original post)

Sat Feb 15, 2014, 10:11 AM

25. Don't worry about him getting out

Under Norwegian law, he can be kept in prison indefinitely if he is still dangerous, and writing letters claiming that access to the wrong video games qualifies as torture, plus threatening violence against Norwegian authorities, would serve as evidence that he is dangerous.

If the article is correct, he threatened the prison authorities with violence from supporters (all 12 of them), and predicted that Norway will have a fascist regime:
“You have put me through hell (…) and I won’t be able to survive it much longer. You are killing me,” Breivik writes to the prison authorities, brandishing the threat of a hunger strike.

“If I die, all the far right radicals and extremists in the European world will know exactly which individuals tortured me to death (…)This could have consequences for some individuals on the short term but also when Norway will have a new fascist regime in 13 to 40 years,” warns the killer, who considers himself a “political prisoner.”


Breivik appears nuts or a sociopath, but the Norwegian civil authorities are not nuts and are not sociopaths, and they aren't going to let this guy out while his mental apparatus works this way. Nor are they likely to respond to threats of violence from supporters by expanding his access to the internet.

All this only renews my sense of grief over his killing spree. That the lives of so many functional human beings could be ended by such a twisted piece of humanity is hard to bear, and it must be even more painful for the Norwegians.


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Response to Seedersandleechers (Original post)

Sat Feb 15, 2014, 11:05 AM

28. Give him the Playstation 3.

With the controller hooked up to 13,000 volts.

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Response to Seedersandleechers (Original post)

Sat Feb 15, 2014, 03:04 PM

29. I have a better idea. Make him listen to this song over and over. . .

He has said that he hates this song: A Norwegian translation of Pete Seeger's song Rainbow Race called Children of the Rainbow

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Response to Seedersandleechers (Original post)

Sat Feb 15, 2014, 03:22 PM

30. Anders Breivik 'trained' for shooting attacks by playing Call of Duty (April 2012)

Breivik tells court he practised his shot using a 'holographic aiming device' while playing video game
Helen Pidd in Oslo
theguardian.com, Thursday 19 April 2012 07.08 EDT

Anders Behring Breivik told the court he practised his shot using the 'holographic aiming device' he had bought to use with the war simulation game ...

"You develop target acquisition," he said. He used a similar device during the shooting attacks that left 69 dead at a political youth camp on the island of Utøya on 22 July.

Describing the game, he said: "It consists of many hundreds of different tasks and some of these tasks can be compared with an attack, for real. That's why it's used by many armies throughout the world. It's very good for acquiring experience related to sights systems" ...


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/apr/19/anders-breivik-call-of-duty

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Response to Seedersandleechers (Original post)

Sat Feb 15, 2014, 03:46 PM

32. Let him n/t

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Response to Seedersandleechers (Original post)

Sat Feb 15, 2014, 04:03 PM

33. What in the what?!

 

I can see giving him the privilege of being allowed to take a daily walk. The communications access, sure...stamps, monitored phone privileges, limited access to the internet and to daily news. I noticed he didn't ask for better food...I would have though the food would have been the worst part of prison.

Fuck him and the entirety of Norwegian fascism over the video games though...for a guy that murders children, Rayman is probably too violent of a video game...perhaps Tetris would be more to his liking.

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Response to Seedersandleechers (Original post)

Sat Feb 15, 2014, 08:31 PM

40. Breivik should sharea cell with Micahel Dunn.

They can cry together about the "injustices" they face.

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Response to Seedersandleechers (Original post)

Sat Feb 15, 2014, 09:43 PM

41. Him and Liam Adams

boofeckingwho

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Response to Seedersandleechers (Original post)

Sat Feb 15, 2014, 10:03 PM

42. 'Better' games? How 'bout, "You are standing in an open field...

west of a white house, with a boarded front door.
There is a small mailbox here."
>_

Hopefully he'll get eaten by a Grue before he completes his sentence.

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