Thu Feb 13, 2014, 04:23 PM
DonViejo (57,630 posts)
Kentucky trooper wants job back because raping that girl was just a ‘moral mistake’
Source: Raw Story
By David Edwards Thursday, February 13, 2014 13:49 EST A Kentucky state trooper told a trial board last month that he would like to have his job back after he was fired for having sex with a 15-year-old girl, calling the relationship a “moral mistake.” In a transcript obtained by WDRB, former Kentucky State Trooper Jerry Clanton asserted to the Kentucky State Police Trial Board that he was under the false impression that the 15-year-old girl was 18 years old when he started having sex with her. “I made a moral mistake. And, I’ve gotten right with my family,” the married former trooper insisted. “I recognize that it is an embarrassment to the State Police. But I have not compromised myself in the fact that, in my mind, all I was doing was making a moral mistake.” “I would never have gone over there. I would have never spoken to her, never texted her, never anything had I thought she was anything but 18.” KSP Commander of Legal Services Capt. Matt Feltner, however, felt that the incident was more serious. “You can’t put a 15-year-old girl in a car, drive her up in the middle of nowhere and have sex with her,” Feltner said. “I mean that doesn’t have to be written out somewhere to know it’s completely wrong and outside the lines.” During the hearing, Clanton explained that State Trooper Stratford Young had sex with the girl first, which he said resulted in his inappropriate relationship. Clanton admitted to having sex with the girl on at least four separate occasions, once on the trunk of his police cruiser while it was pulled over on the side of the road. “I didn’t intend on having sex with her,” he said. In the end, the trial board declined to give Clanton his job back. Investigators believe that a Brandenburg officer and a Breckinridge County Sheriff’s deputy also had sex with the girl. None of the four men had been charged as of Wednesday. According to WDRB, the girl is angry that no one is in jail. Her father has also called on prosecutors to take action, but it would be up to a grand jury to decide if anyone will be charged. Watch the video below from WDRB, broadcast Feb. 13, 2013. Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/02/13/kentucky-trooper-wants-job-back-because-raping-that-girl-was-just-a-moral-mistake/ Full article posted with permission
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DonViejo | Feb 2014 | OP |
Loaded Liberal Dem | Feb 2014 | #1 | |
rocktivity | Feb 2014 | #39 | |
Isoldeblue | Feb 2014 | #2 | |
TheBlackAdder | Feb 2014 | #3 | |
bkanderson76 | Feb 2014 | #4 | |
sakabatou | Feb 2014 | #5 | |
Blue_Tires | Feb 2014 | #23 | |
Whisp | Feb 2014 | #6 | |
Feral Child | Feb 2014 | #15 | |
polly7 | Feb 2014 | #19 | |
okaawhatever | Feb 2014 | #24 | |
Feral Child | Feb 2014 | #42 | |
hughee99 | Feb 2014 | #44 | |
Feral Child | Feb 2014 | #49 | |
SoapBox | Feb 2014 | #7 | |
Shrike47 | Feb 2014 | #8 | |
freshwest | Feb 2014 | #31 | |
marble falls | Feb 2014 | #9 | |
thesquanderer | Feb 2014 | #14 | |
marble falls | Feb 2014 | #17 | |
surrealAmerican | Feb 2014 | #22 | |
SDjack | Feb 2014 | #10 | |
Scairp | Feb 2014 | #11 | |
olddad56 | Feb 2014 | #12 | |
Laelth | Feb 2014 | #13 | |
rhett o rick | Feb 2014 | #16 | |
Orsino | Feb 2014 | #18 | |
cui bono | Feb 2014 | #20 | |
Comrade Grumpy | Feb 2014 | #21 | |
Squinch | Feb 2014 | #25 | |
Comrade Grumpy | Feb 2014 | #35 | |
Squinch | Feb 2014 | #37 | |
Xithras | Feb 2014 | #26 | |
Ohio Joe | Feb 2014 | #34 | |
Comrade Grumpy | Feb 2014 | #36 | |
Ohio Joe | Feb 2014 | #38 | |
msanthrope | Feb 2014 | #47 | |
DeSwiss | Feb 2014 | #27 | |
silvershadow | Feb 2014 | #28 | |
DonViejo | Feb 2014 | #30 | |
freemay20 | Feb 2014 | #29 | |
blackspade | Feb 2014 | #32 | |
riderinthestorm | Feb 2014 | #33 | |
rocktivity | Feb 2014 | #40 | |
Solly Mack | Feb 2014 | #41 | |
CFLDem | Feb 2014 | #43 | |
MrScorpio | Feb 2014 | #45 | |
City Lights | Feb 2014 | #46 | |
davidpdx | Feb 2014 | #48 |
Response to DonViejo (Original post)
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 04:29 PM
Loaded Liberal Dem (230 posts)
1. In related news, the estate of Adolf Eichmann has petitioned.....
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Response to Loaded Liberal Dem (Reply #1)
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 11:59 PM
rocktivity (43,930 posts)
39. The Holocaust: A frat house initiation that got a tiny bit out of control
but in the nicest possible way.
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Response to DonViejo (Original post)
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 04:31 PM
Isoldeblue (1,135 posts)
2. Once may be a mistake
Maybe...... But four times?? He probably would have done it more if he hadn't been caught. He should be in jail!
Lying sack of shit..... |
Response to DonViejo (Original post)
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 04:36 PM
TheBlackAdder (19,388 posts)
3. I bet when he pulled someone over and they used the "I didn't intend" line, he'd ticket them. nt
Response to DonViejo (Original post)
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 04:58 PM
bkanderson76 (266 posts)
4. The "moral mistake" might actually lie within the community allowing him to make his plea n/t
Response to DonViejo (Original post)
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 05:03 PM
sakabatou (37,835 posts)
5. WTF?!
Like hell you'll get your job back.
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Response to sakabatou (Reply #5)
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 07:08 PM
Blue_Tires (55,412 posts)
23. FWIW, that Fullerton cop who was acquitted of killing a homeless man (on camera, no less)
Is suing the city for wrongful termination and trying to get his job back...He supposedly has a fair amount of support from the public and his former comrades as well...
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Response to DonViejo (Original post)
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 05:05 PM
Whisp (24,096 posts)
6. *••**P.I.G.**••*
Let's hear from the defenders!
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Response to Whisp (Reply #6)
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 05:27 PM
Feral Child (2,086 posts)
15. Fuck this Pig
and any defenders.
I will guaranfuckingtee you that he would have busted a civilian that used that excuse. He was "intending" to cheat on his wife and didn't bother to run a DMV check on his "intended"? Cops cheat, it comes with the job. I mean, the overwhelming majority of them cheat. Very few do not succumb to the temptation sometime in their career, and it's part of the "unspoken covenant" to cover for any copper stepping out on his/her spouse. And, they all use departmental resources to check the background of their paramours. He KNEW she was underage and felt that he was privileged to ignore it. Cause he was a cop. |
Response to Feral Child (Reply #15)
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 06:25 PM
polly7 (20,582 posts)
19. I believe that all four of them would have known.
They passed around a child, it's not possible that none of them looked into her age. jmo.
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Response to polly7 (Reply #19)
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 07:11 PM
okaawhatever (8,816 posts)
24. I'm thinking she couldn't drive so surely that came up a time or two. How did she get places? nt
Response to polly7 (Reply #19)
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 10:25 AM
Feral Child (2,086 posts)
42. Yes.
Not a credible excuse.
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Response to Feral Child (Reply #15)
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 11:22 AM
hughee99 (16,109 posts)
44. Why would a DMV have a 15 year old in the system?
15 is not old enough to drive.
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Response to hughee99 (Reply #44)
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 09:52 AM
Feral Child (2,086 posts)
49. Sorry I've delayed my response
took the weekend off.
My point is that he certainly would have tried to check her through DMV (as well as checking for a criminal record) and should have been suspicious of her age due to the lack of record. No driver's license should have been a big indicator that he needed to research further before committing adultery with this girl. The tools are there and I asure you that police officers (notorious for philandering) avail themselves of those tools on a regular, presumptive basis. This bufoon was less diligent checking out his intended paramour than he would have been on a traffic stop. Or he's a liar that got caught committing premeditated statutory rape. |
Response to DonViejo (Original post)
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 05:15 PM
SoapBox (18,791 posts)
7. Ewhhhhh...
What a sicko.
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Response to DonViejo (Original post)
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 05:17 PM
Shrike47 (6,181 posts)
8. But, but, but he's 'made it right with' his family and he hasn't compromised himself, he says.
Geez, guy, the behavior people will excuse in themselves is mind-boggling.
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Response to DonViejo (Original post)
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 05:17 PM
marble falls (35,682 posts)
9. No sense of shame or anything. Intitledto do anything they could get away with. Where do they....
draw the line? If she were 18, it'd still be wrong. no defense, no defense at all. Three cops need to be in jail.
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Response to marble falls (Reply #9)
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 05:25 PM
thesquanderer (10,813 posts)
14. The difference is, if she were 18, it could have been consensual
and if that were the case, he might only be an adulterer instead of a rapist, which is generally not a job-killing offense, though it may be a marriage-killing one.
Since the age of consent in KY is 16, and the girl was 15, if he is only losing his job, it seems to me he is getting off easy, for having gotten off easy. |
Response to thesquanderer (Reply #14)
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 06:02 PM
marble falls (35,682 posts)
17. He says his family's worked through this. There's a weird cop dynamic here, they knew what ....
they were doing, they just thought they were getting away with this. I can't believe there aren't photos or videos. That would lead to kiddy porn charges. These guys knew what they were doing. And swapping her around? They freaking knew and there's no way these guys didn't take some sort of souvenir.
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Response to thesquanderer (Reply #14)
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 07:02 PM
surrealAmerican (11,030 posts)
22. If she had been 18 ...
... it would still have been having sex while on the job, and literally on a police vehicle. That should have cost him his job, but would not have been the criminal act it is, since she was not 18.
"Adultery" is between him and his wife, sex while on duty is between him and his employer, which in this case is the public. |
Response to DonViejo (Original post)
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 05:18 PM
SDjack (1,448 posts)
10. But, it could happen again, that's why you were fired. 50 years in prison would be about right
to cool his tool.
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Response to DonViejo (Original post)
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 05:19 PM
Scairp (2,749 posts)
11. I'm sorry
But exactly HOW many different cops are having sex with a 15 year old? Jesus...
And they can save that "dumb hillbilly" act they got going on. They know what's what and how old people are. I bet he claimed to be a "Christian" too. |
Response to DonViejo (Original post)
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 05:20 PM
olddad56 (5,732 posts)
12. Is it wrong to do something like that? It was in Kentucky, they may have even been related.
and, after all, he has gotten right with his family. Those judges are just sticklers for regulations.
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Response to DonViejo (Original post)
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 05:20 PM
Laelth (30,801 posts)
13. Vomit. n/t
-Laelth
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Response to DonViejo (Original post)
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 05:41 PM
rhett o rick (55,981 posts)
16. There is so much wrong here that it's hard to start.
He and his pals should of course see prison for rape. Second he thinks that he gets one free legal and moral indiscretion. Well if he was asking to go back to work at Burger King, maybe. Third, he is obviously dumb as a board as proven by his testimony. I would hope that would eliminate him from working for law enforcement. Fourth, he thinks it's more important to "make it right with his family" than the victim and victim's family. (I am curious why he hasnt been taken out in the woods and spoken harshly to, by her family. Just sayin) Fifth, he thought she was 18. Did I mention this guy is an idiot?
And I bet he gets to continue carrying a gun. |
Response to DonViejo (Original post)
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 06:22 PM
Orsino (37,416 posts)
18. Four rapes are gonna look terrible on any resume, I guess.
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Response to DonViejo (Original post)
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 06:35 PM
cui bono (19,926 posts)
20. Even if she was 18, this smells like an abuse of power/authority
to force a young girl to have sex. Why is it always in/on his state trooper vehicle? Why are there other state troopers having sex with the same girl? So it's clearly not that the original trooper was dating her. Why did he feel it necessary to drive to the middle of nowhere? Clearly he knew it was wrong at the time or doing it.
Send him to jail. |
Response to DonViejo (Original post)
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 06:49 PM
Comrade Grumpy (13,184 posts)
21. Do we just call statutory rape "rape" now?
This appears to be a case of statutory rape, in that there is no suggestion I've seen of coercion or force.
I'm not sure that it's a good thing to elide the difference between sexual contact that is a crime because of age (statutory rape) and forcible rape. That cop is still a sleazeball, though, and violated the law. He shouldn't get his job back, and I don't understand why he and the others aren't being prosecuted for statutory rape. |
Response to Comrade Grumpy (Reply #21)
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 07:40 PM
Squinch (35,014 posts)
25. Yes. We DO just call statutory rape rape now. Because it is rape.
Response to Squinch (Reply #25)
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 10:39 PM
Comrade Grumpy (13,184 posts)
35. Someone needs to tell the Department of Health and Human Services
HHS has something called Statutory Rape: A Guide to State Laws, which suggests that the term "statutory rape" is still in use. And there's this from the executive summary:
"Criminal laws deal with the legality of sexual acts. Statutory rape laws assume that all sexual activities involving individuals below a certain age are coercive. This is true even if both parties believe their participation is voluntary. Generally, statutory rape laws define the age below which an individual is legally incapable of consenting to sexual activity. To complicate matters, few states use the term “statutory rape” in their criminal codes. More often, a state’s code will address legality of different sexual activities involving minors (e.g., sexual contact versus penetration). Sometimes it is difficult to identify the applicable laws because they are often embedded in the section of the code dealing with other sexual offenses (e.g., sexual assault, forcible rape)." I do note that the summary says that few states use the term in their criminal codes. |
Response to Comrade Grumpy (Reply #35)
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 10:47 PM
Squinch (35,014 posts)
37. Yes exactly. If one has sex with someone who is too young to consent, one is committing rape.
Or are you saying you think a 15 year old is fair game?
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Response to Comrade Grumpy (Reply #21)
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 07:40 PM
Xithras (16,191 posts)
26. Legally it IS rape.
Rape is any case in which consent is not given. In most cases, it's because the victim cannot give consent or chooses not to. In the case of statutory rape, it's because the victim was legally prohibited from doing so.
If no consent occurs, then it's rape. The fact that she was a willing participant is irrelevant. The differences between statutory and forcible rape are reflected in the sentences handed down for each, but the fact that states treat it as a lesser offense doesn't change the fact that it's still rape. No consent was legally given. |
Response to Comrade Grumpy (Reply #21)
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 09:46 PM
Ohio Joe (15,587 posts)
34. Going after a 15 year old is just not enough like rape for you? You want it to be different?
Un-Fucking believable.
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Response to Ohio Joe (Reply #34)
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 10:41 PM
Comrade Grumpy (13,184 posts)
36. Not worthy of a serious reply.
But if you're actually interested in the topic, see my reply to Squinch above.
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Response to Comrade Grumpy (Reply #36)
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 11:56 PM
Ohio Joe (15,587 posts)
38. No... I'm really not very interested in how you justify going after 15 year olds as not rape
It's enough to know you make such sick distinctions.
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Response to Comrade Grumpy (Reply #21)
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 12:21 AM
msanthrope (37,549 posts)
47. Is statutory rape not rapey enough for you? Or can you not contemplate that the absence of the
ability to consent is the definition of force?
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Response to DonViejo (Original post)
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 07:46 PM
DeSwiss (27,137 posts)
27. “I didn’t intend on having sex with her,” he said.
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Response to DonViejo (Original post)
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 08:02 PM
silvershadow (10,336 posts)
28. Was he charged? If not, why not? That's what I'd like to know. A conviction would presumably
preclude him from consideration from a job in law enforcement.
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Response to silvershadow (Reply #28)
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 08:18 PM
DonViejo (57,630 posts)
30. From the article, silvershadow...
None of the four men had been charged as of Wednesday. According to WDRB, the girl is angry that no one is in jail. Her father has also called on prosecutors to take action, but it would be up to a grand jury to decide if anyone will be charged.
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Response to DonViejo (Original post)
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 08:04 PM
freemay20 (243 posts)
29. He can have his "job" back after he is castrated!! EOM
Response to DonViejo (Original post)
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 09:10 PM
blackspade (10,056 posts)
32. The objectification of girls is out of control.
What kind of sick fuck takes advantage of a teen this way....
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Response to DonViejo (Original post)
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 09:20 PM
riderinthestorm (23,272 posts)
33. My visceral reaction to these types of stories is so frustrating
There's wrong on so many levels it makes me sick.
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Response to DonViejo (Original post)
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 12:01 AM
rocktivity (43,930 posts)
40. You forgot the "Not From The Onion" disclaimer n/t
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Response to DonViejo (Original post)
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 12:15 AM
Solly Mack (81,265 posts)
41. Unreal. Damn.
Response to DonViejo (Original post)
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 10:55 AM
CFLDem (2,083 posts)
43. Nope
Once a pedo always a pedo.
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Response to DonViejo (Original post)
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 10:16 PM
MrScorpio (72,854 posts)
45. I'm surprised that he didn't file for disability for his awful case of Restless Penis Syndrome
This guy has absolutely NO business being a cop.
Hopefully his child raping ass is on a sex offender's database. |
Response to DonViejo (Original post)
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 10:42 PM
City Lights (25,171 posts)
46. O.M.G.
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Response to DonViejo (Original post)
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 05:45 AM
davidpdx (22,000 posts)
48. They made the first right choice by not giving him his job back
Let's see if they make the other one by charging him and bringing him to trial.
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