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brooklynite

(94,502 posts)
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 02:23 PM Jan 2014

GOP adopts changes to 2016 presidential primary process

Source: CNN

Washington (CNN) - The Republican National Committee gave near-unanimous approval Friday to a package of rules changes that would condense the 2016 presidential nominating calendar and move the party's national convention to June.

The changes ensure that the June 2016 Republican convention will be the earliest convention in either party since 1948.

The moves, crafted in private in recent months by a small group of party officials representing both the party's establishment and grassroots wings, are designed to help the party avoid the kind of protracted Republican infighting that dented GOP nominee Mitt Romney's general election appeal in 2012.

...snip...

The party is also taking steps to exert more control over Republican primary debates their moderators, but will vote on proposed changes later this year.

Read more: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2014/01/24/gop-adopts-changes-to-2016-presidential-primary-process/?hpt=hp_t2

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GOP adopts changes to 2016 presidential primary process (Original Post) brooklynite Jan 2014 OP
"more control over Republican primary debates " DFW Jan 2014 #1
Bwahahaha! Mitt Romney had no appeal to dent! djean111 Jan 2014 #2
Smart move on their part. n/t bobGandolf Jan 2014 #3
Doesn't that mean they'll get their convention bump way too early? cyberswede Jan 2014 #4
My thought too JustAnotherGen Jan 2014 #5
thus by Labor Day they will hardly be a bump in the road. rurallib Jan 2014 #6
I don't think they care about that. Jeff Murdoch Jan 2014 #23
Good point! cyberswede Jan 2014 #24
It could mean that they can spend General Campaign money sooner than the Dems can. SharonAnn Jan 2014 #31
aka "The Jeb Bush Rule" n/t cosmicone Jan 2014 #7
As usual the reactionaries are going backward bucolic_frolic Jan 2014 #8
Partly it has to do with money starroute Jan 2014 #9
Wow Cryptoad Jan 2014 #10
They misinterpreted 2012 jmowreader Jan 2014 #11
That is exactly what I was thinking when I read that davidpdx Jan 2014 #22
Can't Make A Silk Purse Out Of A Sow's Ear DallasNE Jan 2014 #12
"Moving deck chairs on the Titanic" yellowcanine Jan 2014 #13
Rules maindawg Jan 2014 #14
These people REFUSE to admit it's their IDEAS that made them lose. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2014 #15
Thank Goodness! I hope they never change and Auntie Bush Jan 2014 #25
It is kinda nice to see all the bad ideas concentrated in one place. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2014 #26
Every thing they try, seems safeinOhio Jan 2014 #16
sorry, that was no dent. xxqqqzme Jan 2014 #17
I guess they realize their convention bumps haven't been worthwhile as of late. Gore1FL Jan 2014 #18
Shuffling the chairs on the deck of the USS Titanic. Good luck with that! blkmusclmachine Jan 2014 #19
How about they give the candidates an IQ test, first? Archae Jan 2014 #20
Now all they need to do thefool_wa Jan 2014 #21
This will give them more time to shake the etch-a-sketch Agnosticsherbet Jan 2014 #27
They should just go all "The Quick and the Dead" for their primaries... Wounded Bear Jan 2014 #28
There goes my favorite reality TV show. kairos12 Jan 2014 #29
This could backfire bad... Xolodno Jan 2014 #30

DFW

(54,341 posts)
1. "more control over Republican primary debates "
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 02:27 PM
Jan 2014

i.e. Fox "News" decides the moderators, the questions, the answers, and even who the candidates are.

That'll be about as exciting as watching paint dry, and intellectually just about as stimulating.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
2. Bwahahaha! Mitt Romney had no appeal to dent!
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 02:29 PM
Jan 2014

The only thing that would have helped him is if he and his wife just shut up.

cyberswede

(26,117 posts)
4. Doesn't that mean they'll get their convention bump way too early?
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 02:33 PM
Jan 2014

Then the Democrats can have their convention (and bump) closer to the election.

JustAnotherGen

(31,810 posts)
5. My thought too
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 02:35 PM
Jan 2014

I'm wondering if they are planning on losing in 2016 - and I generally could care less about 2016 . . . but this is an interesting move on their part.

rurallib

(62,406 posts)
6. thus by Labor Day they will hardly be a bump in the road.
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 02:36 PM
Jan 2014

probably being flattened by the Clinton steamroll.

Jeff Murdoch

(168 posts)
23. I don't think they care about that.
Sat Jan 25, 2014, 10:25 AM
Jan 2014

I think it is more about having 2 extra months to sell a unified set of talking points to the M$M attacking the Democrats, instead of each other.

SharonAnn

(13,772 posts)
31. It could mean that they can spend General Campaign money sooner than the Dems can.
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 04:47 PM
Jan 2014

That wouldn't be good for us. Imagine a couple of months of non-stop attack ads against our presumptive candidate(s) with no ability to respond.

bucolic_frolic

(43,128 posts)
8. As usual the reactionaries are going backward
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 03:03 PM
Jan 2014

This will give the GOP nominee 3 more months to jet around the country
in a look-a-like Air Force One and assume the role of Old Pretender, akin
to James Stuart

They will use this 3 month period to attempt to avoid the Romney-Dukakis
strategy of staying above the fray and inadvertently allowing the opposition
candidate to define them

(I couldn't believe the Romney camp didn't see the parallel, and I just about
knew the election was over by July 4, 2012)

But is the public ready for an extra three months??? Three more months of
negativity, TV ads, more journalists' time

It's got as many risks as it does benefits

And will mean another 3 months to attack Hillary

Perhaps it's a war of attrition. A young candidate to outlast the elder opposition,
who by election day will appear tired and spent.

Rubio-Ryan v. Clinton-Biden

Democratic Party better take the youth concept seriously

starroute

(12,977 posts)
9. Partly it has to do with money
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 03:11 PM
Jan 2014

There are two separate pots of campaign funds, one for the primary season and the other for the general election, and there are limits on how much any individual can donate to each. By having the convention earlier, they can start digging onto their general campaign funds that much sooner.

jmowreader

(50,553 posts)
11. They misinterpreted 2012
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 03:46 PM
Jan 2014

In the Republican view, they lost 2012 because a primary season that was too long allowed the Democrats to use a too-long series of debates to define their candidate. The way they are going to win 2016 is to define the candidate themselves.

In my view, they lost 2012 because the majority of the American people didn't think any of their candidates were fit to be president. If you're running a candidate you have to turn into a man of the people you're basically screwed; you're completely screwed if he comes out of the process less human than when he went in, you're really screwed.

I don't know what the solution to their problems is. Well, actually I do but they'll never accept it: quit preaching tax cuts and deregulation as the Solution To All Our Problems when those are the things that caused the problems in the first place. Quit screaming about Freedom and Equality while you scheme to reduce both for half the population. And remove the word Benghazi from your vocabulary.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
22. That is exactly what I was thinking when I read that
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 10:03 PM
Jan 2014

Too many debates in 2012 (and in 2008). Plus it means they have to switch to GE funds earlier so they end up tapping out their big donors with another month or two of campaign and ads to run. It is ass backwards.

DallasNE

(7,402 posts)
12. Can't Make A Silk Purse Out Of A Sow's Ear
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 04:01 PM
Jan 2014

Excuse me, but Romney's failures were not caused by the nominating process. It was Romney being caught on tape making an ill-conceived comment about the 47% and his seething "performance" in the foreign policy debate where Candy Crowley fact checked him on his Benghazi claims. What the Republican's really need is a message that resonates with the American people. As it is, they have lost the popular vote in 4 out of the 5 most recent presidential elections. None of these changes touches on that. Republicans have become too extreme for the electorate.

 

maindawg

(1,151 posts)
14. Rules
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 04:04 PM
Jan 2014

They love rules. The stymied any debate at their last convention. They dont like debate. They like lockstep. They like fascist style politics. Already they are starting with their attacks on women. Soon they will attack gays and poor people. Its their MO. They dream of a country where only wealthy white people can vote. They frighten people with never ending bullshit. Promoting false premises with hate speech.
Its a tired old practice that died a long time ago yet they cling to it and push a more severe form everyday. They know strong hate appeals to their base. Only 33 % of Americans identify with this but every one of them vote.
We must work harder to ensure that every democrat votes. We must make it clear to the people that it is a responsibility to vote. That voting is not a right that yu can take for granted because if the Fascists win, voting will not be a right at all.
On one hand its almost comical to watch these assholes fall over one another to be as radical as possible without actually going to prison.Its almost like a game of chicken. I think they fear the crazy teabillies also. Trying to put that genie back in the box.
It will be entertaining to watch them eat one another again. And they will.

Gore1FL

(21,127 posts)
18. I guess they realize their convention bumps haven't been worthwhile as of late.
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 07:04 PM
Jan 2014

Of course, neither have their candidates.

thefool_wa

(1,867 posts)
21. Now all they need to do
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 08:26 PM
Jan 2014

Is force the Tea Party into its OWN party so that they stop counting as republicans when it comes to who controls the houses. Of course that move only helps the Dems, so it will never happen, even though there has to be something shady about it.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
27. This will give them more time to shake the etch-a-sketch
Sat Jan 25, 2014, 05:54 PM
Jan 2014

and pretend to move back from the extreme, radical right wing.

They know they have to appeal to independents and moderates to win, and what people have to say to win the nomination scares the political independents.

Wounded Bear

(58,646 posts)
28. They should just go all "The Quick and the Dead" for their primaries...
Sat Jan 25, 2014, 07:06 PM
Jan 2014

Not the earlier, good one with Sam Elliot, but the Hackman/Stone travesty.

I'm sure the NRA would endorse it, and the world would be shed of a lot of idiots in one election cycle.

Xolodno

(6,390 posts)
30. This could backfire bad...
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 12:31 AM
Jan 2014

....what if one of their worst looney toons gets the win? In the general election, he could really say some whacky shit and sink fast in the polls. The longer process vet's out the crazies...imagine if a crazy gets the nominee and says "a woman's place is in the kitchen and slavery was an honest institution"....the election is over then.

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