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Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 02:57 PM Nov 2013

Breaking: Lara Logan Taking Leave Of Absence From '60 Minutes' After Debunked Benghazi Report

Source: Huffington Post / Talking Points Memo

TOM KLUDT – NOVEMBER 26, 2013, 1:44 PM EST659
Weeks after she was forced to retract her "60 Minutes" report on the attack in Benghazi, Libya, Lara Logan and producer Max McClellan will be taking a leave of absence from the CBS News staple.

The Huffington Post's Michael Calderone broke the news. (SEE BELOW)

Logan was forced to admit that the report was a "mistake" after a British security contractor's account of the attack was discredited.

Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/lara-logan-taking-leave-of-absence-from-60-minutes



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/26/lara-logan-60-minutes-leave_n_4344883.html

Michael Calderone
[email protected]

CBS News' Lara Logan Taking Leave Of Absence Over Discredited '60 Minutes' Benghazi Report

Posted: 11/26/2013 1:48 pm EST

NEW YORK -- Jeff Fager, chairman of CBS News and executive producer of '"60 Minutes," informed staff Tuesday that Lara Logan and her producer, Max McClellan, would be taking a leave of absence following an internal report on the newsmagazine's discredited Oct. 27 Benghazi report.

Fager's memo and findings of an internal review, both obtained by The Huffington Post, are below.

This story is developing

By now most of you have received the report from Al Ortiz about the problems with the 60 Minutes story on Benghazi.

There is a lot to learn from this mistake for the entire organization. We have rebuilt CBS News in a way that has dramatically improved our reporting abilities. Ironically 60 Minutes, which has been a model for those changes, fell short by broadcasting a now discredited account of an important story, and did not take full advantage of the reporting abilities of CBS News that might have prevented it from happening.

As a result, I have asked Lara Logan, who has distinguished herself and has put herself in harm’s way many times in the course of covering stories for us, to take a leave of absence, which she has agreed to do. I have asked the same of producer Max McClellan, who also has a distinguished career at CBS News.

As Executive Producer, I am responsible for what gets on the air. I pride myself in catching almost everything, but this deception got through and it shouldn’t have.

When faced with a such an error, we must use it as an opportunity to make our broadcast even stronger. We are making adjustments at 60 Minutes to reduce the chances of it happening again.

There is a lot of pride at CBS News. Every broadcast is working hard to live up to the high standard set at CBS News for excellence in reporting. This was a regrettable mistake. But there are many fine professionals at 60 Minutes who produce some of the very best of broadcast journalism, covering the important and interesting stories of our times, and they will continue to do so each and every Sunday.

Jeff Fage
Chairman, CBS News
Executive Producer, 60 Minutes

SUMMARY OF FINDINGS

My review found that the Benghazi story aired by 60 Minutes on October 27 was deficient in several respects:

--From the start, Lara Logan and her producing team were looking for a different angle to the story of the Benghazi attack. They believed they found it in the story of Dylan Davies, written under the pseudonym, “Morgan Jones”. It purported to be the first western eyewitness account of the attack. But Logan’s report went to air without 60 Minutes knowing what Davies had told the FBI and the State Department about his own activities and location on the night of the attack.

--The fact that the FBI and the State Department had information that differed from the account Davies gave to 60 Minutes was knowable before the piece aired. But the wider reporting resources of CBS News were not employed in an effort to confirm his account. It’s possible that reporters and producers with better access to inside FBI sources could have found out that Davies had given varying and conflicting accounts of his story.

--Members of the 60 Minutes reporting team conducted interviews with Davies and other individuals in his book, including the doctor who received and treated Ambassador Stevens at the Benghazi hospital. They went to Davies’ employer Blue Mountain, the State Department, the FBI (which had interviewed Davies), and other government agencies to ask about their investigations into the attack. Logan and producer Max McClellan told me they found no reason to doubt Davies’ account and found no holes in his story. But the team did not sufficiently vet Davies’ account of his own actions and whereabouts that night.

--Davies told 60 Minutes that he had lied to his own employer that night about his location, telling Blue Mountain that he was staying at his villa, as his superior ordered him to do, but telling 60 Minutes that he then defied that order and went to the compound. This crucial point – his admission that he had not told his employer the truth about his own actions – should have been a red flag in the editorial vetting process.

--After the story aired, the Washington Post reported the existence of a so-called “incident report” that had been prepared by Davies for Blue Mountain in which he reportedly said he spent most of the night at his villa, and had not gone to the hospital or the mission compound. Reached by phone, Davies told the 60 Minutes team that he had not written the incident report, disavowed any knowledge of it, and insisted that the account he gave 60 Minutes was word for word what he had told the FBI. Based on that information and the strong conviction expressed by the team about their story, Jeff Fager defended the story and the reporting to the press.

--On November 7, the New York Times informed Fager that the FBI’s version of Davies’ story differed from what he had told 60 Minutes. Within hours, CBS News was able to confirm that in the FBI’s account of their interview, Davies was not at the hospital or the mission compound the night of the attack. 60 Minutes announced that a correction would be made, that the broadcast had been misled, and that it was a mistake to include Davies in the story. Later a State Department source also told CBS News that Davies had stayed at his villa that night and had not witnessed the attack.

--Questions have been raised about the recent pictures from the compound which were displayed at the end of the report, including a picture of Ambassador Stevens’ schedule for the day after the attack. Video taken by the producer-cameraman whom the 60 Minutes team sent to the Benghazi compound last month clearly shows that the pictures of the Technical Operations Center were authentic, including the picture of the schedule in the debris.

--Questions have also been raised about the role of Al Qaeda in the attack since Logan declared in the report that Al Qaeda fighters had carried it out. Al Qaeda’s role is the subject of much disagreement and debate. While Logan had multiple sources and good reasons to have confidence in them, her assertions that Al Qaeda carried out the attack and controlled the hospital were not adequately attributed in her report.

--In October of 2012, one month before starting work on the Benghazi story, Logan made a speech in which she took a strong public position arguing that the US Government was misrepresenting the threat from Al Qaeda, and urging actions that the US should take in response to the Benghazi attack. From a CBS News Standards perspective, there is a conflict in taking a public position on the government’s handling of Benghazi and Al Qaeda, while continuing to report on the story.

--The book, written by Davies and a co-author, was published by Threshold Editions, an imprint of Simon & Schuster, part of the CBS Corporation. 60 Minutes erred in not disclosing that connection in the segment.

Al Ortiz
Executive Director of Standards and Practices
CBS News

Eric Boehlert ?@EricBoehlert 3m
after CBS's National Guard controversy, outside panel issued 234-page report. For Benghazi, CBS issues an 11-paragraph summary of review
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Breaking: Lara Logan Taking Leave Of Absence From '60 Minutes' After Debunked Benghazi Report (Original Post) Hissyspit Nov 2013 OP
Juicy! get the red out Nov 2013 #1
The Lie already has feet PeoViejo Nov 2013 #20
Lots of people @ Huff Post are Scairp Nov 2013 #67
So sad. I remember when she had a fan base here. onehandle Nov 2013 #2
She WAS good. Hissyspit Nov 2013 #7
Well, she got gang raped in Egypt, then took a desk job. onehandle Nov 2013 #11
I'm confused by this post. AZ Mike Nov 2013 #15
Maybe I can shed a bit of light Sophiegirl Nov 2013 #35
Thanks for posting your experience. Although it wont mean anything to some here, unfortunately. 7962 Nov 2013 #50
Thank ypu Sophiegirl Nov 2013 #54
As far as I know, she is not. Maybe when we're alone one day I may try to bring it up, 7962 Nov 2013 #55
If anything comes up in a conversation Sophiegirl Nov 2013 #58
Thanks very much. be well. 7962 Nov 2013 #60
I sympathize and you're a very brave person cosmicone Nov 2013 #62
I agree Sophiegirl Nov 2013 #65
Here Heather MC Nov 2013 #45
Her lack of journalistic integrity predates that horrific experience. deurbano Nov 2013 #24
Thankyou deurbano, this factoid is very significant, and requires repeating over and over.. 2banon Nov 2013 #44
One thing is she married a rightwing flack. Arugula Latte Nov 2013 #33
i believe you are nearing the core ,,,,,,, nt Cryptoad Nov 2013 #52
Iraq didn't start becoming an issue with the media until they had no choice. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2013 #43
Fair point. Hissyspit Nov 2013 #75
Her corruption? ReRe Nov 2013 #89
Nailed it. ctsnowman Nov 2013 #101
When she went on Charlie Rose and fawned about generals to him, closeupready Nov 2013 #10
Suck up to them or simply suck them, it's the same thing if you're a journo. AAO Nov 2013 #31
Charlie Rose wrote a book each on fawning and sucking up. QuestForSense Nov 2013 #34
"Reporters" should not be for or against anything or anyone. Lochloosa Nov 2013 #47
Yes, she did fail. Miserably. QuestForSense Nov 2013 #74
Good riddance to bad rubbish. Hope her LOA is permanent! hue Nov 2013 #3
You know where she'll land a job next. tblue Nov 2013 #36
You think Logan didn't have that in mind when she did that story? BlueStreak Nov 2013 #42
Hopefully step 1 to a quiet permanent exit. Kingofalldems Nov 2013 #4
Haven't other newscasters been fired for pulling this kind of shit? sakabatou Nov 2013 #5
Yeah, immediate dismissal used to be the standard... Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #61
Why isn't she getting the Dan Rather treatment? Too much time remaining on her contract? MADem Nov 2013 #6
A slow twist in the wind is what Rather got bucolic_frolic Nov 2013 #21
You're probably right on that score. nt MADem Nov 2013 #23
Compare this hack with those who reported on the JFK assassination 50 years ago. duffyduff Nov 2013 #57
They left Dan hanging for a few months so it wouldn't look like he was fired over it Recursion Nov 2013 #92
The minute they cut him loose, though, he said "They gave me the ax" and all of us here MADem Nov 2013 #93
Oh, definitely, I just mean it wasn't overnight Recursion Nov 2013 #94
+1,000 -- I won't be surprised, but I won't hold my breath, either, if you know what I mean! nt MADem Nov 2013 #95
Agree, that is the question LeftOfWest Nov 2013 #102
60 Minutes has been tabloid for a while but her segment on Benghazi closeupready Nov 2013 #8
They could replace her with Bozo The Clown so long as they have a solid team behind the face. randome Nov 2013 #13
buh bye now TeamPooka Nov 2013 #9
She should have been fired, period. n/t cosmicone Nov 2013 #12
This is very close to a firing -- note that she was "asked" to take a leave of absence -- AND... johnfunk Nov 2013 #28
But, firing has a sort of a brute finality to it cosmicone Nov 2013 #64
Say hello to the family, Lara. TexasProgresive Nov 2013 #14
Lara, with no votes, you ARE the Weakest Link KamaAina Nov 2013 #16
K&R alp227 Nov 2013 #17
IMAGINE THAT Burf-_- Nov 2013 #18
Good! bvar22 Nov 2013 #19
She'll have a job at fox news leftynyc Nov 2013 #22
AND STAY OUT!! nm SCVDem Nov 2013 #25
CUE THE VONAGE THEME! rocktivity Nov 2013 #26
nothing here about her husband's role as a propagandist.. grasswire Nov 2013 #27
And they'll be offering Dan Rather his job back, too, right? Yeah, didn't think so. . . markpkessinger Nov 2013 #29
The only reason the Killian memos couldn't be "authenticated" was because they were copies duffyduff Nov 2013 #77
I love how Jeff Fage just calls it "Ironic". Mr.Bill Nov 2013 #30
Rightwing Republicon Propagandist has wrist slapped Berlum Nov 2013 #32
Next stop: FOX Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2013 #37
No kidding. Major Hogwash Nov 2013 #48
Lara will not be fired Sophiegirl Nov 2013 #38
That's pretty far fetched. One has nothing to do with the other. n/t duffyduff Nov 2013 #59
Have you ever been sexually assaulted? Sophiegirl Nov 2013 #63
That has nothing to do with anything, and it's none of your business. n/t duffyduff Nov 2013 #80
Once again, the person truly responsible evades punishment. SDjack Nov 2013 #39
He may still get his. It's harder to take down those at the top, Cleita Nov 2013 #53
Please let the the screen door hit you on the way out. pam4water Nov 2013 #40
Meh... Javaman Nov 2013 #41
What took so freaking long and who else and how many hit the bricks with her? One only? WTF!?!? marble falls Nov 2013 #46
Benghazi,,,, Drink!,,,,,, Cryptoad Nov 2013 #49
Good. Hacks like her drag down the profession Cleita Nov 2013 #51
This should end her journalism career but likely won't. duffyduff Nov 2013 #56
60 Minutes and CBS have adopted a right wing agenda. Enthusiast Nov 2013 #66
Agreed! They have close ties to the Peter G Peterson Foundation asshole. LiberalFighter Nov 2013 #70
Scott Pelley needs to go too. But those are the type of people CBS wants LiberalFighter Nov 2013 #71
Pelley is clearly a hack when it comes to political issues. duffyduff Nov 2013 #78
Dan Rather got fired for airing something that was actually true even if the evidence was bogus. Warren Stupidity Nov 2013 #68
The evidence wasn't "bogus." The memos couldn't be authenticated because they were copies duffyduff Nov 2013 #79
Dubya is every bit the POS that those memos claim he was. Enthusiast Nov 2013 #96
Message to Lara dawn frenzy adams Nov 2013 #69
Notice how the talks about Benghazi have diminished since the 60 Min retraction. Auntie Bush Nov 2013 #72
Nothing New here about CBS and right wing leanings .. it's almost all of them now. YOHABLO Nov 2013 #73
Key paragraph and why Logan should have been fired as soon as this broke and still should be fired. yellowcanine Nov 2013 #76
Yes I thought so as well when I read that LiberalLovinLug Nov 2013 #99
Yep, the State Dept term for it is "going native." yellowcanine Nov 2013 #100
I wonder how the "fraudcasters" are dealing with this? They were pretty happy for awhile there. JEFF9K Nov 2013 #81
It is time to cancel the show TheDonkey Nov 2013 #82
she should be fired! gopiscrap Nov 2013 #83
Time to go spend more time with her family Major Nikon Nov 2013 #84
Fox News will pick her up then she can lie to her doc03 Nov 2013 #85
Leave of absence? HooptieWagon Nov 2013 #86
My comment (courtesy of Photoshop) markpkessinger Nov 2013 #87
Nice Work!! 2banon Nov 2013 #88
Certainly! markpkessinger Nov 2013 #91
Good job! Scurrilous Nov 2013 #97
I feel sorry for the rest of their once great journalistic team. ffr Nov 2013 #90
Its simple..... daleanime Nov 2013 #98
Post removed Post removed Nov 2013 #103
This message was self-deleted by its author Hissyspit Nov 2013 #104
 

PeoViejo

(2,178 posts)
20. The Lie already has feet
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 03:14 PM
Nov 2013

Last edited Tue Nov 26, 2013, 07:18 PM - Edit history (1)

and a good head-start on the Truth. The crazies will chose to ignore the retraction is my guess.

Scairp

(2,749 posts)
67. Lots of people @ Huff Post are
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 06:55 PM
Nov 2013

And I must apologize as you guys were right and I was wrong for defending her. I think that what happened to her in Egypt colored my perceptions of her and I was cutting her more slack than I obviously should have. In my own defence I had no idea she was so right wing and I also heard that speech she gave last year after the piece had been debunked. I also have just learned she has no journalistic education to speak of. Fager should go too. He allowed this to go on air, knowing her much better than the public does. This whole episode is a disgrace. Mike Wallace must be turning in his grave.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
2. So sad. I remember when she had a fan base here.
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 02:59 PM
Nov 2013

When she was in the middle-east, telling the truth about Bush's folly.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
11. Well, she got gang raped in Egypt, then took a desk job.
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 03:04 PM
Nov 2013

I can't imagine how that would affect you.

AZ Mike

(468 posts)
15. I'm confused by this post.
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 03:08 PM
Nov 2013

Not to jump to conclusions, but this seems like a rather nasty insinuation (e.g., her gang rape experience caused her corruption).

Please clarify.

Sophiegirl

(2,338 posts)
35. Maybe I can shed a bit of light
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 04:01 PM
Nov 2013

As a victim of sexual abuse and rape, I suffer from PTSD. Before getting treatment and extensive therapy, I viewed every situation as suspect. Reading into it a negative, evil purpose. It affected my daily life. Even when unfounded, my mind would conjure up a scenario that was, in essence, a personal attack. Leading to a greater conspirosy that was the furthest from the truth. Feelings of fear and pain are often channeled as anger in a self-protection mode. One goes on offense to protect oneself. Even when it is irrational.

My experiences were 40 years ago. I still struggle with some after effects today. IMHO, she has not had enough time and mental health treatment to help deal with the emotional ramifications of the attack she endured.

This does not condone her report. But might be a reasonable explanation.


 

7962

(11,841 posts)
50. Thanks for posting your experience. Although it wont mean anything to some here, unfortunately.
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 04:46 PM
Nov 2013

I hope you are doing better with each day. My cousin was raped at knifepoint, and I know it was very traumatic for her. She seems to have dealt with it and has no visible problems, but we dont discuss it either, so there may be things "below the surface".
Good luck in your healing.

Sophiegirl

(2,338 posts)
54. Thank ypu
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 04:57 PM
Nov 2013

I'm doing very well these days. But the journey was very tough. Now, I live most days symptom-free.

For a survivor, it is easier to pretend that all is okay rather than face the inner turmoil. There is always "stuff" below the surface. Admitting it is akin to admitting weakness or failure. It's so very hard because of the shame involved.

I hope your cousin is getting help from a good therapist.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
55. As far as I know, she is not. Maybe when we're alone one day I may try to bring it up,
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 05:09 PM
Nov 2013

unless you, with your experience, dont think that would be a good idea. She doesnt seem to be self destructive or anything like that. she's made some bad decisions, but havent we all. She is 53 now, she was in her late 20s when it happened. But I know that time doesnt necessarily heal all wounds, too.

Sophiegirl

(2,338 posts)
58. If anything comes up in a conversation
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 05:16 PM
Nov 2013

I would gently ask if she ever thought of going to a therapist. It is a very delicate subject. Even the mention of therapy may appear threatening. It is truly based upon the individual and how resilient they are. If it comes up, then simply ask if she has ever been to a therapist. Leave it at that. If she hasn't, she will (trust me) think about it a bit. She may not do it, but the tiny seed might be planted. It is up to her to let it germinate.

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
62. I sympathize and you're a very brave person
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 06:03 PM
Nov 2013

However, being sexually assaulted (it is not even clear if she was assaulted or just groped - although both are traumatic) doesn't give one a license to do a shoddy job in a chosen occupation. Being a journalist requires objectivity and if the objectivity is lost, she should have taken a leave of absence immediately after the attack.

Would you like to be sentenced to death for shoplifting by a judge who blames it on a sexual assault -- or an operation on you botched by a surgeon who was sexually assaulted leaving you disabled and disfigured?

I do buy the explanation but not as an excuse for what Lara Logan did.

Sophiegirl

(2,338 posts)
65. I agree
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 06:10 PM
Nov 2013

She should have taken a longer leave of absence. As a survivor, I wanted to show I was perfectly okay. But I wasn't.

I'm not excusing her for the broadcast. I do, however, sympathize with her trauma.

 

Heather MC

(8,084 posts)
45. Here
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 04:33 PM
Nov 2013
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2011/05/lara-logan-breaks-her-silence-on-60-minutes-.html

"Suddenly, before I even know what's happening, I feel hands grabbing my breasts, grabbing my crotch, grabbing me from behind," she told Scott Pelley of "60 Minutes."

Things quickly spiraled out of control. "I think my shirt, my sweater was torn off completely," she said. "My shirt was around my neck. I felt the moment that my bra tore. ... And I felt them tear out, they literally just tore my pants to shreds. ... I didn't even know that they were beating me with flagpoles and sticks and things, because I couldn't even feel that. Because I think of the sexual assault, was all I could feel, was their hands raping me over and over and over again. ... They were tearing my body in every direction at this point, tearing my muscles. And they were trying to tear off chunks of my scalp, they had my head in different directions."

Logan flew back to Washington, where she spent four days in a hospital as she was treated for cuts, bruises and internal tearing. She's been recovering at home with her husband and children. "I felt like I had been given a second chance that I didn't deserve," she said of her family. "I came so close to leaving them, to abandoning them." - See more at: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2011/05/lara-logan-breaks-her-silence-on-60-minutes-.html#sthash.IKFkNXND.dpuf

- See more at: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2011/05/lara-logan-breaks-her-silence-on-60-minutes-.html#sthash.IKFkNXND.dpuf

deurbano

(2,894 posts)
24. Her lack of journalistic integrity predates that horrific experience.
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 03:21 PM
Nov 2013
http://www.salon.com/2010/06/28/journalism_9/

MONDAY, JUN 28, 2010 04:29 AM PDT
The two poles of journalism
Michael Hastings and Lara Logan illustrate the difference between afflicting and serving the powerful
GLENN GREENWALD

<<...Yesterday, Hastings was interviewed on CNN’s Reliable Sources about the criticisms he has received from media figures over his article, and that was followed by a segment with CBS’ Lara Logan, who lambasted him. I really recommend watching these two segments (video below), as they illustrate the two poles of journalism: those who view their role as exposing the relevant secrets of the powerful (Hastings) and those who view their role as protecting those secrets and serving the interests of those officials (Logan). Amazingly, Logan sounds like the most devoted member of McChyrstal’s P.R. staff or even his family: so furious is she that Hastings would publish an article that reflected negatively on this Fine, Great Man (whom she supposedly covers) – so devoted is she to the interests of this military official — that, at one point, she drops the neutral journalist mask and shows her Bill Kristol face, and actually spat: “Michael Hastings has never served his country the way McChrystal has.” ...>>
 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
44. Thankyou deurbano, this factoid is very significant, and requires repeating over and over..
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 04:30 PM
Nov 2013

Thank you again for the time/labor to post this.... likely it should be kept handy, because the lies and speculations based on half truths and incomplete/missing information has a way of forming a life of it's own and so it goes... Lara Logan is and has always been a Neo-Con spokesperson vis a vis journalist gigs.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
10. When she went on Charlie Rose and fawned about generals to him,
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 03:03 PM
Nov 2013

stating explicitly that you have to suck up to them if you are going to get a story.

I think THAT particular interview marked a turning point for me, because up to that point, I thought she was generally okay.

 

AAO

(3,300 posts)
31. Suck up to them or simply suck them, it's the same thing if you're a journo.
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 03:40 PM
Nov 2013

One way or another you are "buying" a story.

QuestForSense

(653 posts)
34. Charlie Rose wrote a book each on fawning and sucking up.
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 03:52 PM
Nov 2013

So she was preaching to the choir. But seriously, I think Logan is a contrarian. She used to be against Bush & Co. Now she's against Obama. Contrarians must always be pushing AGAINST. They are incapable of pushing FOR. It's in their nature. Like being a natural-born fault-finder. It's one thing to be anti-authoritarian, but quite another to be contrarian. I'm sure her experience in Egypt had an enormous effect and for that I'm sympathetic. But journalism requires objectivity. So if she's got a contrarian ax to grind she ought to move on. Perhaps to Entertainment Tonight, where she can suck up to celebrities for her stories. Like Charlie Rose.

Lochloosa

(16,061 posts)
47. "Reporters" should not be for or against anything or anyone.
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 04:36 PM
Nov 2013

The should investigate and seek out the truth, then and only then, report on it.

She failed that.

QuestForSense

(653 posts)
74. Yes, she did fail. Miserably.
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 09:25 PM
Nov 2013

Last edited Wed Nov 27, 2013, 01:09 AM - Edit history (1)

The only thing a reporter should push FOR is the truth.

tblue

(16,350 posts)
36. You know where she'll land a job next.
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 04:02 PM
Nov 2013

She's got the look and the mindset, plus some genuine journalist cred, as the cherry on top. She'll be a star on Fox and she'll make oodles, and her credibility will be further debased--though her audience won't care.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
42. You think Logan didn't have that in mind when she did that story?
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 04:18 PM
Nov 2013

She belongs working at a MacDonalds, not working as a journalist. But Fox is probably her best option.

Kingofalldems

(38,423 posts)
4. Hopefully step 1 to a quiet permanent exit.
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 03:00 PM
Nov 2013

She should have been publicly fired though, with a thorough investigation of this whole matter. I smell a right wing conspiracy.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
6. Why isn't she getting the Dan Rather treatment? Too much time remaining on her contract?
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 03:01 PM
Nov 2013

Someone else put her up to it and it wasn't her work, she was just the mouthpiece?

bucolic_frolic

(43,058 posts)
21. A slow twist in the wind is what Rather got
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 03:16 PM
Nov 2013

and out about 6 months later

this may be the same

This should not be allowed to blow over

It's a major crack in a copper-bottom journalistic institution

 

duffyduff

(3,251 posts)
57. Compare this hack with those who reported on the JFK assassination 50 years ago.
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 05:15 PM
Nov 2013

Absolutely NO comparison at all.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
92. They left Dan hanging for a few months so it wouldn't look like he was fired over it
Wed Nov 27, 2013, 03:00 AM
Nov 2013

He was kept on as a "contributing editor" for 60 Minutes for the rest of the season, during which time as far as I could tell he wasn't actually allowed to "contribute" anything.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
93. The minute they cut him loose, though, he said "They gave me the ax" and all of us here
Wed Nov 27, 2013, 03:15 AM
Nov 2013

pretty much agreed with him.

I don't think anyone thinks old Dan jumped--he was most definitely pushed. And I swear, if they could have, they would have pushed him off the darn roof so he wouldn't live to tell any tales.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
94. Oh, definitely, I just mean it wasn't overnight
Wed Nov 27, 2013, 03:16 AM
Nov 2013

I'm just saying it's too soon to say Logan won't be getting the same treatment.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
95. +1,000 -- I won't be surprised, but I won't hold my breath, either, if you know what I mean! nt
Wed Nov 27, 2013, 04:54 AM
Nov 2013
 

LeftOfWest

(482 posts)
102. Agree, that is the question
Wed Nov 27, 2013, 04:01 PM
Nov 2013

Why is she still there while Rather was canned.

I asked that in my mail to CBS but doubt they will care or answer, but I am still going to ask.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
8. 60 Minutes has been tabloid for a while but her segment on Benghazi
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 03:01 PM
Nov 2013

took the institution to a new low, and frankly, they should replace her with a real journalist who knows how to ask hard questions of those running our military/industrial complex rather than flattering them, throwing softballs, and being a sycophantic war-cheerleader. K&R

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
13. They could replace her with Bozo The Clown so long as they have a solid team behind the face.
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 03:07 PM
Nov 2013

The reader of the news should be recognized as only the tip of the iceberg.
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johnfunk

(6,113 posts)
28. This is very close to a firing -- note that she was "asked" to take a leave of absence -- AND...
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 03:29 PM
Nov 2013

this was not voluntary, according to a little birdie I know at a certain TV network.

Plus, it looks to be MUCH worse than CBS is admitting. I have been told that CBS wants answers on the connections between Lara's husband -- who was a Loyal Bushie disinformation officer during the Iraq debacle -- and Mary Matalin -- who is the chief editor at a hard-right imprint at Simon and Schuster who published Dylan "Morgan Jones" Davies' now-discredited book about his "hroics" in an attempt to "defend" the CIA... er, ahem, diplomatic compound in Benghazi against a well-drilled, possibly CIA-trained sectarian militia... excuse me, I mean Al Qaeda evildoers.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
27. nothing here about her husband's role as a propagandist..
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 03:24 PM
Nov 2013

.....and nothing here about the CBS executive who came from FOX.

There's more to this story.


Can someone who has posting privileges at Huff Post make sure they have the info about her hubby?

markpkessinger

(8,392 posts)
29. And they'll be offering Dan Rather his job back, too, right? Yeah, didn't think so. . .
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 03:30 PM
Nov 2013

. . . Dan Rather was forced out of his job for a report on George Bush's abasence frorm his National Guard service because he based his report on a document that couldn't be authenticated, but the substance of that report was never challenged or even refuted. Logan, on the other hand, gives a report on Benghazi, the SUBSTANCE of which is shown to be false, and she merely takes a leave of absence? Can you say 'double standard?

 

duffyduff

(3,251 posts)
77. The only reason the Killian memos couldn't be "authenticated" was because they were copies
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 10:47 PM
Nov 2013

and not originals.

They were NOT debunked, unlike this report here.

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
32. Rightwing Republicon Propagandist has wrist slapped
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 03:46 PM
Nov 2013

They have probably sent Logan back to Right-wing Republicon Corporate Media Propaganda Indoctrination School.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
48. No kidding.
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 04:36 PM
Nov 2013

She can tell any stories she wants to at Faux Snooze and will never have to worry about credibility, apologizing, or getting the story wrong.
Hell, she won't even have to worry about getting facts.

Just look at Geraldo.



Sophiegirl

(2,338 posts)
38. Lara will not be fired
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 04:07 PM
Nov 2013

If she were to be fired, there would be lawsuits aplenty because of what she went through in Egypt. She can use her "on-the-job" attack and subsequent mental health issues as the foundation of a suit and most likely would win based upon the sympathy factor of any jury.

SDjack

(1,448 posts)
39. Once again, the person truly responsible evades punishment.
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 04:08 PM
Nov 2013

Jeff Fager, chairman of CBS News and executive producer of '"60 Minutes" is ultimately responsible for the quality system that failed to catch the problems with the Benghazi story.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
53. He may still get his. It's harder to take down those at the top,
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 04:53 PM
Nov 2013

which is why they go after the low hanging fruit first.

Javaman

(62,504 posts)
41. Meh...
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 04:16 PM
Nov 2013

so she's gone, that still doesn't deal with those in charge who were the real ones behind it.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
51. Good. Hacks like her drag down the profession
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 04:51 PM
Nov 2013

of journalism and should be not given the same status as those who work hard at finding out the true facts of a developing story.

 

duffyduff

(3,251 posts)
56. This should end her journalism career but likely won't.
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 05:13 PM
Nov 2013

Before anybody brings up Dan Rather and the Killian memos, those memos were NEVER proven to be "forgeries" but were merely copies, not originals, and therefore they couldn't be absolutely verified as genuine.

Rather's case was purely political, while Logan's is a case of journalistic malpractice.

LiberalFighter

(50,784 posts)
70. Agreed! They have close ties to the Peter G Peterson Foundation asshole.
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 08:32 PM
Nov 2013

CBS had to be hounded before Leslie Stahl step down from the foundation.

 

duffyduff

(3,251 posts)
78. Pelley is clearly a hack when it comes to political issues.
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 10:49 PM
Nov 2013

Once in a while he will do a responsible job, like with the Lance Armstrong deal, but I well remember how he was during the Clinton years. He was "reporting" everything he was spoonfed by Kenneth Starr.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
68. Dan Rather got fired for airing something that was actually true even if the evidence was bogus.
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 07:09 PM
Nov 2013

Logan gets a leave of absence for participating in a fraud with no foundation. Seems fair to me. Fired is the same as leave of absence. Victim of scam is the same as perpetrator of scam. Substantially accurate is the same as total bullshit.

 

duffyduff

(3,251 posts)
79. The evidence wasn't "bogus." The memos couldn't be authenticated because they were copies
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 10:51 PM
Nov 2013

and not originals.

They have NEVER been debunked despite all of the right-wing horseshit trying to cast doubt on them with their bogus "analysis" by a lawyer who didn't know his ass from a hole in the ground about typewriters.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
96. Dubya is every bit the POS that those memos claim he was.
Wed Nov 27, 2013, 07:57 AM
Nov 2013

And that is a fact.

The media is clear gone.

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
72. Notice how the talks about Benghazi have diminished since the 60 Min retraction.
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 09:05 PM
Nov 2013

Now they have ObamaCare to criticize. They have been non-stop critical of Obama for 5 straight years. I guess it will end up being 8 years. How can a President be wrong on EVERYTHING for 6 years? I can't think of one thing that has been met with ReThug approval.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
73. Nothing New here about CBS and right wing leanings .. it's almost all of them now.
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 09:16 PM
Nov 2013

This woman should have been fired. Period. The end. Done. I am sure FOX will welcome her with open arms. Now I need to take my medicine called Fukitol.

yellowcanine

(35,694 posts)
76. Key paragraph and why Logan should have been fired as soon as this broke and still should be fired.
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 09:57 PM
Nov 2013

--In October of 2012, one month before starting work on the Benghazi story, Logan made a speech in which she took a strong public position arguing that the US Government was misrepresenting the threat from Al Qaeda, and urging actions that the US should take in response to the Benghazi attack. From a CBS News Standards perspective, there is a conflict in taking a public position on the government’s handling of Benghazi and Al Qaeda, while continuing to report on the story.

Logan had a clear conflict of interest and yet she reported this story as a supposedly neutral reporter. She was anything but and it obviously influenced how she reported the story and why she relied on an uncorroborated and self serving source in Davies - his account fed into her bias. Others found this immediately. Why did it take CBS so long to find it or appreciate its significance? A reporter who will do this cannot be trusted. Note that Logan still has not been fired - she is on a loa. Not the same thing at all.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,164 posts)
99. Yes I thought so as well when I read that
Wed Nov 27, 2013, 03:25 PM
Nov 2013

She sounds like a full fledged Fox News Benghazigate stoker. One of those that can be convinced that this one attack was somehow uniquely different than the 13 attacks on embassies and consulate compounds under George W. That somehow this special case was preventable while those others under Bush were just unavoidable tragedies.

I'm so disappointed in her. I've seen her on stories before the Iraq embedded gig, where she seemed truly professional. It seemed like Iraq is where she started to change. That's where she met her wing-nut propagandist husband and also started to go gaga over military brass. Of course my heart went out to her after her terrible experience in Egypt and I was hoping she would have the strength to come back to her profession one day. She has failed miserably and its really quite sad. But once, it seems, that a high profile reporter/pundit/celebrity goes to "crazy town" as Jon Stewart would say, they never come back. They go to Fox News. I would bet on her showing up at their door in the near future.

yellowcanine

(35,694 posts)
100. Yep, the State Dept term for it is "going native."
Wed Nov 27, 2013, 03:54 PM
Nov 2013

When an ambassador forgets what country he represents and gets more vested in the interests of the host country. Logan did that with the military in Iraq. If she leaves CBS, for sure Fox will hire her. She is just the kind of reporter they want.

TheDonkey

(8,911 posts)
82. It is time to cancel the show
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 11:40 PM
Nov 2013

CBS should be ashamed of such sloppy reporting. End the show now and hold on to a sliver of respectability but alas ultimately Viacom is only interested in ratings.

ffr

(22,665 posts)
90. I feel sorry for the rest of their once great journalistic team.
Wed Nov 27, 2013, 01:38 AM
Nov 2013

One or two bad apples and the baby gets tossed out with the bathwater. She definitely needs to move on. She stains the 60 minutes brand. It's almost as though she were planted there by Murdock to discredit them. The plan's working.

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