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Thu Mar 1, 2012, 12:57 PM

BREAKING: Senate rejects Blunt bill

Source: Twitter

-- which would limit access to contraception and other preventive heath care to 20M women -- 51-48.

Read more: https://twitter.com/#!/thinkprogress

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Reply BREAKING: Senate rejects Blunt bill (Original post)
warrior1 Mar 2012 OP
xxqqqzme Mar 2012 #1
Rose Siding Mar 2012 #2
shcrane71 Mar 2012 #41
Cleita Mar 2012 #43
shcrane71 Mar 2012 #44
Cleita Mar 2012 #45
shcrane71 Mar 2012 #47
Cleita Mar 2012 #48
shcrane71 Mar 2012 #51
CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #59
Cleita Mar 2012 #63
ornotna Mar 2012 #66
Cleita Mar 2012 #67
Renew Deal Mar 2012 #3
freshwest Mar 2012 #58
HockeyMom Mar 2012 #4
Rose Siding Mar 2012 #5
JustAnotherGen Mar 2012 #6
still_one Mar 2012 #28
MountainLaurel Mar 2012 #9
Robbins Mar 2012 #13
muriel_volestrangler Mar 2012 #14
MountainLaurel Mar 2012 #16
Liberal_Stalwart71 Mar 2012 #37
wryter2000 Mar 2012 #39
Fuddnik Mar 2012 #11
Mass Mar 2012 #12
shcrane71 Mar 2012 #42
Liberal_Stalwart71 Mar 2012 #36
lark Mar 2012 #49
sonias Mar 2012 #15
glinda Mar 2012 #22
obxhead Mar 2012 #26
AndyTiedye Mar 2012 #34
Pachamama Mar 2012 #40
vaberella Mar 2012 #17
onehandle Mar 2012 #7
Marthe48 Mar 2012 #46
dipsydoodle Mar 2012 #8
Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2012 #20
abelenkpe Mar 2012 #10
still_one Mar 2012 #31
abelenkpe Mar 2012 #38
still_one Mar 2012 #57
hedgehog Mar 2012 #18
jaysunb Mar 2012 #19
Newkophile Mar 2012 #21
Arkana Mar 2012 #23
Ilsa Mar 2012 #25
Ilsa Mar 2012 #24
nobodyspecial Mar 2012 #33
chitowngal08 Mar 2012 #62
still_one Mar 2012 #27
polichick Mar 2012 #29
The Wizard Mar 2012 #30
Orrex Mar 2012 #32
mvd Mar 2012 #35
derby378 Mar 2012 #50
HoosierCowboy Mar 2012 #52
meow2u3 Mar 2012 #53
Guilded Lilly Mar 2012 #54
asfghjtyk Mar 2012 #55
asfghjtyk Mar 2012 #56
AngryOldDem Mar 2012 #60
malthaussen Mar 2012 #61
DallasNE Mar 2012 #64
dfgrehe Mar 2012 #65

Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 12:59 PM

1. Well that is another piece of good

news today.

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 01:01 PM

2. Way too close for comfort (but yay!)

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Response to Rose Siding (Reply #2)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 06:03 PM

41. Agreed. I really don't understand why people don't want single payer healthcare.

It would mean that your employer has no control over your healthcare.

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Response to shcrane71 (Reply #41)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 06:07 PM

43. People do want it.

It's the health insurance industry who doesn't want it and they have the power to keep it away from the rest of us.

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Response to Cleita (Reply #43)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 06:12 PM

44. Agreed, but the health insurance industry has convinced enough people that they don't want it.

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Response to shcrane71 (Reply #44)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 06:15 PM

45. Very few. Once you explain to people what it's about, they are all for it.

So it's really corporate rule of our corrupt politicians that is preventing it from happening.

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Response to Cleita (Reply #45)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 06:22 PM

47. You're more persuasive than I am, or you're talking to more courageous or smarter people.

My guess is that it's the former: you're a more persuasive speaker.

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Response to shcrane71 (Reply #47)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 07:00 PM

48. There is no need to feel that you can't persuade if you have your

facts behind you. In order to do that, I spend a lot of time and the Physicians for a National Health Plan website.

http://www.pnhp.org

Everything you need to know to make your case is there. Good luck!

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Response to Cleita (Reply #48)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 07:33 PM

51. Thank you! I'm going to put the link to use.

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Response to Cleita (Reply #43)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 05:39 AM

59. Where can I get one of those Bumper Stickers?

 

Medicare for all is the best plan out there. I hope the Scotus puts the Kibosh on ACA and then we can all get Medicare and get the Insurance Companies out of the mix.

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Response to CAPHAVOC (Reply #59)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 07:38 PM

63. It used to be sold in the Democratic Underground store through Cafepress.

I can't seem to find it though. Sorry.

I think though that you are naive if you think putting the kibosh on the ACA is going to lead to Medicare for All. Unfortunately, we need it to eventually expand coverage of Medicare under the ACA until it takes over. The insurance companies want the ACA to be nullified because they know this could happen.

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Response to ornotna (Reply #66)

Sat Mar 3, 2012, 03:01 AM

67. Thank you.

I guess I missed the /du store. I wonder why there isn't a direct link anymore from the website?

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 01:01 PM

3. 51-48?

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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #3)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 02:58 AM

58. Woe unto us if the Dems lose the Senate.

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 01:01 PM

4. Way too close

Thank goodness, for Senator Snow not resigning yet.

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Response to HockeyMom (Reply #4)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 01:04 PM

5. Casey, Manchin and Nelson were Ds on the wrong side of this one

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Response to Rose Siding (Reply #5)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 01:06 PM

6. Careful

Nelson in particular has an awful lot of apologists at DU.

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Reply #6)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 02:47 PM

28. casey is an ass also. Women should do everything to see casey is replaced with a progressive

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Response to Rose Siding (Reply #5)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 01:09 PM

9. Can you provide a link to the vote tally?

I'm really curious how Mary Landrieu voted.

Manchin is an ultimate DINO -- anti-choice, anti-equality, anti-environment, and in the pocket of the mine companies.

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Response to MountainLaurel (Reply #9)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 01:21 PM

13. Landrieu voted against It

This time she was with the party.manchin,Ben Neson,Bob Casey voted for It.

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Response to MountainLaurel (Reply #9)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 01:23 PM

14. From the link in #8:

Three Democrats voted with Republicans to table the amendment: Sen. Joe Manchin (W.Va.), Bob Casey (Pa.) and Ben Nelson (Neb.). Casey and Manchin are both up for reelection in 2012.

Sen. Olympia Snowe (R-Maine), who announced Tuesday she would retire at the end of the Senate term, was the only Republican to vote in favor of tabling the amendment.


And one senator did not vote. Repubs have 47 senators, so, minus Snowe, and plus those 3 Dems, you'd expect 49 if all Repubs voted. Therefore, 1 Repub didn't vote, for whatever reason. And 51 Dems + Sanders + Lieberman = 53, - 3 + Snowe = 51, so all other Dems did vote for tabling it - including Landrieu.

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #14)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 01:29 PM

16. Thank you!

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #14)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 04:58 PM

37. The Republican senator who had the brain aneurysm. Can't think of his name!!

 

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #14)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 05:45 PM

39. Thanks for posting this

Fuck all three of them and the horses they rode in on. I mean it. A Republican had to save us from this?

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Response to Rose Siding (Reply #5)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 01:18 PM

11. Which Nelson?

There's two DINO's with that name.

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Response to Fuddnik (Reply #11)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 01:20 PM

12. Ben (NE). and he does not even have the excuse of running for reelection/

I wished I had the confidence that Bob Kerrey would be better.

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Response to Mass (Reply #12)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 06:05 PM

42. Hagel was a bigger Democrat than Nelson.

Kerry will be better.

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Response to Rose Siding (Reply #5)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 04:56 PM

36. Casey should be up for reelection. Manchin and Nelson are not surprising!

 

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Response to Rose Siding (Reply #5)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 07:06 PM

49. Which Nelson?

The one from FL or more likely, Ben Nelson is my guess.

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Response to HockeyMom (Reply #4)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 01:24 PM

15. Exactly what I was thinking.

Way too close. The Republicans are the party of crazy. And yes this was about a contraception ban. It certainly would have made it less affordable for women.

I'm also grateful that Senator Snow voted with women.

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Response to sonias (Reply #15)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 02:12 PM

22. With each absurd backwards strike, they hope to pull the Dems closer to

being conservative. We need to take over by electing real Dems. Many many of them kicking out these crazy conservatives. For the sake of the Planet, environment and people.

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Response to glinda (Reply #22)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 02:45 PM

26. They do pull Dems rightward with every vote and campaign speech on social issues.

 

The pubs go right and the Dems follow them like the suckers they have become.

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Response to obxhead (Reply #26)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 04:28 PM

34. It's the Unlimited Corporate Money Pulling Ever Rightward


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Response to sonias (Reply #15)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 06:00 PM

40. This was far more than just a contraception ban vote...it was a law that would have allowed any

....employer to reject certain coverages if they deemed it against their moral or religious beliefs. This means many things could be eliminated and the idea that so many Politicians, especially those on the Republican side who claim to wanting less government in our lives, would even vote for this, are all liars and hate women.

3 fucking votes difference between this having become law (although there is no way that Obama would have signed it, no way.....but a Pres. santorum, Gingrich or Romney would!) is way too close for my liking.

We need to start seriously taking on these people who voted for this and especially the DINOs like Casey and the likes of Ben Nelson types....Obama will be re-elected but we must all work to make sure that the Congress and Senate will not have the likes of these types in the future....on either side of the isle.....

Seriously.....we are in the fucking 21st century and a group of primarily men are trying to decide laws that would hinder women from having contraception coverage in their health care?

This is WAR!!! I for one am pissed and not going to sit still or be quiet....even if all you can afford is $5, please donate to Planned Parenthood, NARAL, NOW and Emily's List. All of which will help make sure the message gets made loud and clear and get these basterds out of office that are assaulting womens rights and womens health....

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Response to HockeyMom (Reply #4)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 01:31 PM

17. Exactly. n/t

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 01:06 PM

7. This Fall I want to see Massive Campaigns aimed at women.

Simple message: To Republicans, Women Are Second Class Citizens. Don't Vote Republican.

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Response to onehandle (Reply #7)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 06:19 PM

46. Right is right and Wrong is Republican

n/t

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Response to dipsydoodle (Reply #8)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 02:01 PM

20. they wrote this wrong, right? everybody's for tabling

The Senate voted to table the measure from Sen. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.), which would have let any employers opt out of healthcare coverage mandates that violate their religious or moral beliefs.


Three Democrats voted with Republicans to table the amendment: Sen. Joe Manchin (W.Va.), Bob Casey (Pa.) and Ben Nelson (Neb.). Casey and Manchin are both up for reelection in 2012.

Sen. Olympia Snowe (R-Maine), who announced Tuesday she would retire at the end of this year, was the only Republican to vote in favor of tabling the amendment.

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 01:12 PM

10. Anyone think we don't need to work hard to make sure dems/liberals have

greater majority in the senate and take back the house? That we replace conservadems with progressives? That vote is waaaaaaaay too close.

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Response to abelenkpe (Reply #10)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 04:16 PM

31. It was these Democrats that prevent Medicare for all /nt

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Response to still_one (Reply #31)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 05:34 PM

38. Do you not understand my point about replacing conservadems

with real liberals and progressives?

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Response to abelenkpe (Reply #38)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 12:17 AM

57. Of course I understand your point. /nt

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 01:47 PM

18. K&R

Important news.

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 01:59 PM

19. I sure hope Scott Brown voted for it

so Ms Warren will have another arrow in her bag against him.

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Response to jaysunb (Reply #19)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 02:07 PM

21. Sure did!

He co-sponsored the bill and he's a Repuke. Indeed he voted for it.

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 02:26 PM

23. I wanna know how that piece of shit Scott Brown voted.

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Response to Arkana (Reply #23)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 02:44 PM

25. According to Maddowblog, he voted with the Repigs. nt

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 02:37 PM

24. It would possibly limit more than contraception ...

Blood transfusions, vaccinations, HIV care, mental health care, treatment of diseases secondary to "sinful" lifestyles (STDs, cervical cancer, etc) could all be at risk. Can you imagine an employer denying coverage of medication for an employee with bipolar disorder because the employeris a Scientologist?

On edit: adding in bariatric surgery, assistance smoking cessation programs, drug and alcohol addiction rehab, etc. There are so many things someone could claim a "moral" objection to.

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Response to Ilsa (Reply #24)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 04:25 PM

33. Yep, and I'm sure treatments that cost a lot

would soon have the most "moral" objections. But, don't worry, I'm sure viagra would emerge unscathed.

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Response to nobodyspecial (Reply #33)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 07:37 PM

62. Viagra unscathed for sure!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are so right!

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 02:46 PM

27. and the "democratic" senator from Pa, voted for the blunt bill. I am sick and tired of screwed up

people, usually men, wanting to dictate their religious beliefs


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Response to still_one (Reply #27)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 03:01 PM

29. Wow - I'll be calling him today!

On edit: Just called and got a recording due to "high call volume" - they probably just don't want to talk to pissed off constituents.

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 03:31 PM

30. In every state

it's illegal to practice medicine without credentials. This amendment would allow employers to practice medicine without credentials. When your boss determines medical treatment options the system has failed.

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Response to The Wizard (Reply #30)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 04:21 PM

32. Terrific point!

And isn't that exactly what our esteemed legislators are doing--practicing medicine without credentials--when they pass sweeping laws that change or limit or deny people's healthcare?

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 04:48 PM

35. K&R

Even after President Obama made it the insurance company in some cases that's responsible for coverage, the religious right still isn't happy. This isn't about freedom of religion - it's about women having freedom FROM religious dogma.

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 07:17 PM

50. Anything less than 99-1 isn't good enough

This amendment was a travesty, and I'm glad it's dead.

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 07:36 PM

52. If this would have passed

Every CEO in the country would convert to Christian Science.

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 08:44 PM

53. I like the Huffington Post headline on the Politics page (scroll down)

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 09:50 PM

54. Way too close, this should never even have seen the light of day...but...

you can be assured that now every single damn state will go through their own ignorant BS routine of getting ultrasound legislation pushed through.

The despicable demeaning of women by Republicans is par for their repulsive course. For women legislators who are going down this heinous road (check out Pennsylvanias new intended TransV ultrasound bill) they are the very worst and will be professionally sorry. Their betrayal is obscene.
And Democrats who agree with any of these billious attempts should be soundly hounded out of office and replaced by genuine liberals who aren't dimwit sh*ts.

But by all means Republicans, make women mad.
They will never forget.

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 10:10 PM

55. Spam deleted by uppityperson (MIR Team)

 

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Thu Mar 1, 2012, 10:11 PM

56. Spam deleted by uppityperson (MIR Team)

 

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 06:33 AM

60. Glad it failed, but the margin by which it did is troubling. n/t

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 12:26 PM

61. 51-48?!

What else do we need to tell us the system is broken?

-- Mal

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 08:32 PM

64. When Romney Was Asked About The "Blunt-Rubio" Bill

His first response was that he was against it. Later he claimed that he thought the question was about some State law and of course he supported the "Blunt" bill.

That doesn't wash. Romney can't be so out of touch that he didn't know "Blunt-Rubio" was the same thing as the "Blunt" bill. Plus, why would he opine on a question he didn't understand "some State law". His explanation was a lose-lose at best.

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Fri Mar 2, 2012, 10:25 PM

65. Spam deleted by cbayer (MIR Team)

 

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