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Mon Feb 27, 2012, 06:44 PM

White House gives blessing to partial Keystone XL construction

White House gives blessing to partial Keystone XL construction
By Andrew Restuccia - 02/27/12 02:27 PM ET

The White House backed TransCanada Corp.ís bid to build a major portion of the Keystone XL oil pipeline Monday, a move that could shield President Obama from growing GOP attacks over the project.

Obama's support for the southern portion of the pipeline gave the White House another chance to blunt GOP attacks by touting support for U.S. oil development. But it quickly re-opened a rift with the presidentís environmental base, which condemned the project.


TransCanada, which has been working for years to win federal approval of Keystone XL, said Monday that it will begin construction on a section of the pipeline that runs from Cushing, Okla., to Texas.

The White House quickly reiterated its support for the pipeline segment, which would carry crude oil pumped from land in the Midwest and surrounding areas to refineries in Texas. The pipeline can't be extended to carry oil sands crude from Canada until the company receives a cross-border permit from the State Department, a permit the president rejected in January.

the rest:
http://thehill.com/blogs/e2-wire/e2-wire/212785-white-house-backs-major-segment-of-keystone-pipeline
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Reply White House gives blessing to partial Keystone XL construction (Original post)
kpete Feb 2012 OP
Jakes Progress Feb 2012 #1
saras Feb 2012 #2
RUMMYisFROSTED Feb 2012 #25
OnyxCollie Feb 2012 #27
Swamp Lover Feb 2012 #3
joeybee12 Feb 2012 #4
Censor-Ready Feb 2012 #8
Swamp Lover Feb 2012 #22
daleanime Feb 2012 #36
Swamp Lover Feb 2012 #42
unapatriciated Feb 2012 #37
okieinpain Feb 2012 #14
libmom74 Feb 2012 #24
grantcart Feb 2012 #5
KansDem Feb 2012 #6
Jakes Progress Feb 2012 #7
bvar22 Feb 2012 #38
RufusTFirefly Feb 2012 #9
proverbialwisdom Feb 2012 #10
FogerRox Feb 2012 #40
JJW Feb 2012 #11
ProfessionalLeftist Feb 2012 #12
Hotler Feb 2012 #13
leftyohiolib Feb 2012 #15
boppers Feb 2012 #16
leftyohiolib Feb 2012 #17
safgertrt Feb 2012 #18
leftyohiolib Feb 2012 #19
savalez Feb 2012 #20
savalez Feb 2012 #21
freedom fighter jh Feb 2012 #35
awoke_in_2003 Feb 2012 #23
BearsandBulls Feb 2012 #26
FogerRox Feb 2012 #41
patrice Feb 2012 #28
Bainbridge Bear Feb 2012 #29
truthisfreedom Feb 2012 #30
nwliberalkiwi Feb 2012 #31
fasttense Feb 2012 #32
Le Taz Hot Feb 2012 #33
progressoid Feb 2012 #34
Hotler Feb 2012 #39

Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Feb 27, 2012, 06:51 PM

1. Is that a camel's nose I see

peeping in the big tent?

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Response to Jakes Progress (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 27, 2012, 06:56 PM

2. No, the whole caravan is in, you're just hidden under the covers and can't see them yet.

 

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Response to Jakes Progress (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 27, 2012, 11:04 PM

25. It looks like a nose but...



[font size=1]...chin! not balls!...[/font]

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Response to RUMMYisFROSTED (Reply #25)

Tue Feb 28, 2012, 12:30 AM

27. Scarred for life, I am.

 

Thanks a lot, RiF.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Feb 27, 2012, 07:03 PM

3. This pipeline is going through and it always was...

 

...and believe me, you watn Obama's regulators administering the permits and not Romney's or Santorumn's.

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Response to Swamp Lover (Reply #3)

Mon Feb 27, 2012, 07:08 PM

4. It's not the pipeline that's the problem...it's the very dirty oil they're drilling for

 

and processing...it will increase global warming so badly no efforts in other areas will offset it...this sucks...Obama doesn't get it at all.

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Response to Swamp Lover (Reply #3)

Mon Feb 27, 2012, 07:39 PM

8. Syntax Alert

"Obama regulator" is an oxymoron.

And what is "administering permits"? Once the approval is given, industry is in self-reporting mode until something explodes and they want federal money for the cleanup.

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Response to Censor-Ready (Reply #8)

Mon Feb 27, 2012, 10:30 PM

22. That's just not true.

 

Makes a scary story though.

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Response to Swamp Lover (Reply #22)

Tue Feb 28, 2012, 09:52 AM

36. How is it untrue?

Examples and history please.

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Response to daleanime (Reply #36)

Tue Feb 28, 2012, 03:45 PM

42. Construction permits and operation permits will all require maintenance.

 

In addition, any problems will require investigation. Do you want the response to any reported complaints to be answered and acted upon by Obama or one of the idiots who are running from the other side.

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Response to Swamp Lover (Reply #22)

Tue Feb 28, 2012, 10:01 AM

37. Yes, a scary story we have sadly experienced recently.

We are really good at forgetting our history lessons, but two years ago is not yet distant enough to be forgotten.
First they said this:



Than the injured parties sue to get justice and the courts said this.
http://www.courthousenews.com/2011/06/17/37457.htm
http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2011/06/18/unbelievable-courts-rule-taxpayers-bp-transocean-liable-gulf-oil-spill-clean-costs-29071/

BP gets their ruling and starts the finger point so they can wiggle out the cost of their spill.
http://articles.cnn.com/2012-01-03/us/us_bp-halliburton-lawsuit_1_bp-and-halliburton-blowout-preventer-cameron-international-corp?_s=PM:US

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/01/27/us-bp-transocean-idUSTRE80Q00E20120127

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/02/23/us-bp-trial-idUSTRE81M1W520120223

More trials and more delays
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/27/bp-oil-spill-trial-settlement_n_1304403.html?ref=green

LONDON/NEW ORLEANS (Reuters/Tom Bergin and Jonathan Stempel) -- The trial to decide who should pay for the 2010 Gulf of Mexico oil spill has been delayed by a week, to allow BP Plc to try to cut a deal with tens of thousands of businesses and individuals affected by the disaster.

Less than 24 hours before the case was set to start in a New Orleans federal court, U.S. District Judge Carl Barbier pushed back the date to March 5 from February 27.


Since this is not a story, but is current news it doesn't scare you enough.

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Response to Swamp Lover (Reply #3)

Mon Feb 27, 2012, 09:35 PM

14. thank you n/t.

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Response to Swamp Lover (Reply #3)

Mon Feb 27, 2012, 10:53 PM

24. Seriously?!?

Just like how they dealt with the whole BP fiasco in the gulf.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Feb 27, 2012, 07:11 PM

5. From Oklahoma to Texas, yeah that's a radical move.


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Response to grantcart (Reply #5)

Mon Feb 27, 2012, 07:28 PM

6. Might just be the beginning...

Build a pipeline from Oklahoma to Texas, then it's "Oh, lets extend it to Kansas! C'mon, what could possibly go wrong in Kansas?!!"

Then Nebraska, then South and North Dakota.

Then it will be, "C'mon, Mr. President. We're there! Won't you grant a permit to go across the US/Canadian border?"

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Response to grantcart (Reply #5)

Mon Feb 27, 2012, 07:31 PM

7. Naive or purposefully blind?

Naive - believing that this isn't the first step to approval after the election.

Purposefully blind - pretending that this isn't the first step to approval after the election.

Sure. Trans Canadian oil is going to spend a few million dollars building a pipeline to move Oklahoma oil to Texas without any assurance (behind the curtain) that it will become a part of their design. Right nice of them.

Naive - trusting big oil to do the right thing.

Purposefully blind - supporting big oil and its agenda because it coincides with a particular celebrity politician.

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Response to Jakes Progress (Reply #7)

Tue Feb 28, 2012, 12:33 PM

38. Also...

A great way to ensure PLENTY of Oil Dollars flow into the re-election coffers.

You know, we are almost there with this pipeline deal, but the opposition is stiff.
A little more incentive will get this deal done.
The polls ALL say Obama is going to WIN BIG in November,
so what can you do to help us out here and get this pipeline built?


...and people say the Obama Administration doesn't know how to "negotiate".

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Feb 27, 2012, 07:52 PM

9. No oil for us, very few or no jobs, almost certain leaks, and "game over" for the climate

What's not to like about this pipeline?

No oil for us. Keystone XL will not lessen U.S. dependence on foreign oil, but transport Canadian oil to American refineries for export to overseas markets. Source: Tar Sands Action.

Very few or no jobs. Cornell GLI Study Finds Keystone XL Pipeline Will Create Few Jobs. Previous Studies Are Misleading; Project May Kill More Jobs Than It Creates. Source: Cornell University Global Labor Institute

Almost certain leaks. TransCanada predicted that the Keystone I pipeline would see one spill in 7 years. In fact, there have been 12 spills in 1 year. Source: Tar Sands Action.

"Game over" for the climate. NASA scientist James Hansen says if the oil sands were exploited as projected, the carbon emissions produced would mean it was "game over for the climate." Source: The Guardian

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Response to RufusTFirefly (Reply #9)

Mon Feb 27, 2012, 08:22 PM

10. Thanks for the succinct summary!

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Response to RufusTFirefly (Reply #9)

Tue Feb 28, 2012, 03:00 PM

40. SO true, proposal to build supertanker port in Houston

and the proposal to expand the loading facility in Vancouver to handle supertankers (currently only Suezmax tankers can be loaded at Vancouver).

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Feb 27, 2012, 08:40 PM

11. Game over for the planet

 

Insanity!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Feb 27, 2012, 08:49 PM

12. They seemed to know it would happen, having been building/grabbing land for it

for quite a while now.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Feb 27, 2012, 09:01 PM

13. ........

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Feb 27, 2012, 09:45 PM

15. republibrats hold their breath stomp their little feet whine and cry and potus caves. wow what a

 

fucking surprise if the scotus wasnt so important i might just say fuck you to sir cavesalot

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Feb 27, 2012, 10:00 PM

16. Time to slit our wrists.

Now there's nothing left to live for. It's all over.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Feb 27, 2012, 10:12 PM

17. a move that could shield President Obama from growing GOP attacks over the project.

 

what a charlie brown. the gop will never let him off the hook for ANYTHING. even if he built the damn thing himself, just like getting bin laden, he'll have done it too late or too early or both. they wont like the way he did it blah blah blah. for such a smart guy he acts (sometimes) like such a naive novice.

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Mon Feb 27, 2012, 10:13 PM

19. whats this, a commercial?

 

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Feb 27, 2012, 10:29 PM

21. The plan does not require federal approval.

I doubt they could have stopped it anyway.

"The plans announced Monday do not require federal approval. In January the Obama administration rejected a more controversial proposal from TransCanada to build a pipeline from the Montana-Canada border through Nebraska."

More at CNN: http://money.cnn.com/2012/02/27/news/companies/keystone_pipeline/index.htm?hpt=hp_t3

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Feb 27, 2012, 10:47 PM

23. with all the oil disasters we have had in our history...

 

it amazes me we still cannot get more people behind solar, wind, and tidal power.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Feb 27, 2012, 11:18 PM

26. Obama is missing the point

Okay so now that we've accomplished increasing the number barrels of oil that is sent to refineries, can we focus on what everyone in America seems to blind to see. According to truebluenaturalgas.com We have enough natural gas to fuel America for 10 years with reserves that already exist, 82 years worth of gas that we know exists if we drill for it, and a nearly unlimited supply (possibly). So why on earth does every politician in America seem bent on not using it?

For that I have fewer answers. Maybe the lobbyists have a stronger grip on capitol hill than I thought, but let's go over the advantages to switching to American Natural Gas.

1. It would wipe out our dependency on foreign oil.
2. It would create jobs to drill for it
3. It's less expensive than gas
4. it's more environmentally friendly than gas

Am I missing something?

[link:http://www.truebluenaturalgas.org/how-much-natural-gas-does-the-us-have/|

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Response to BearsandBulls (Reply #26)

Tue Feb 28, 2012, 03:04 PM

41. AS long as we're talking about transitioning to renewables



Lets just start with wind power

1. It could wipe out our dependency on foreign oil by 2050.
2. It would create jobs
3. It's less expensive than nat gas
4. it's more environmentally friendly than nat gas

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Feb 28, 2012, 02:36 AM

28. Extremely disappointing!

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Response to patrice (Reply #28)

Tue Feb 28, 2012, 03:19 AM

29. Certainly is

 

but not at all surprising. Also remember that BP has been issued new drilling leases in the Gulf of Mexico.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Feb 28, 2012, 03:31 AM

30. If they build this segment, and never approve the rest of the pipeline, it will be one of the

sneakiest tricks ever played by a US President. What other use could it be put to, if no other path for the northern portion is approved? Transcanada is best known for its natural gas pipelines, not oil.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Feb 28, 2012, 03:57 AM

31. Fix Is In

The fix was in a long time ago. Hillary's former campaign manager is the lead lobbiest for the pipeline. I'm suprised the the POTUS didn't cave until after the election. I voted for Obama the first time, but now I'm writing in Bernie Sanders. I hope the Repukes carry the election and take both houses and the Presidency. This nation is dead! What a sell out!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Feb 28, 2012, 07:44 AM

32. Obama always does things like this

 

He gives with one hand and takes away with the other then claims he's a centrist.

In a country that has been so destroyed by the 1%, bending to their wishes is not a centrist position. It is a position design to make it look as if he is progressive and maybe a little lieberal while all the time pushing the agenda of the uber rich.

He always does this. He gives a fraction of an inch to his liberal base on a social issue then promotes the right wing economic agenda. The right wing 1% got tax cuts for the rich, no public option, bailouts, no enforcment of finacial regulations, war, hiring freezes, reductions in heating oil assitance and free trade agreements. The liberals got the end of Clinton's Don't Ask Don't Tell.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Feb 28, 2012, 09:03 AM

33. Well, as long as it

"could shield President Obama from growing GOP attacks over the project" that's what's important.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Feb 28, 2012, 09:29 AM

34. NO WAY!

But DUers keep telling me that the President is on our side and not the oil companies.




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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Feb 28, 2012, 12:38 PM

39. Stop picking on this president. He's doing the best he can.

Now that the XL pipeline is behind him he can focus in putting more pot smokers in prison.

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