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I guess, my point was that I would have lived enough life by then.
I put solar panels on our house last year, not just to save on electricity, but for the future. At some point, we will be leaving the house to my girlfriends kids and at least they know, I tried. 
Anyone I know and love who as kids today, I tell them to move north. Texas will be a hell hole in a few years.
Our generation will be the last to remember how things used to be. The next will hate us. and their kids will figure out a way to adapt.
we humans are such puny things, yet we think we know it all.
...I mean, besides ES&S/Diebold--a corporation with far rightwing connections that would make your hair stand on end--controlling 75% of the vote 'counting' in the U.S., using 'TRADE SECRET' code (code that the public is forbidden to review), and with half the states doing NO AUDIT AT ALL (automatic check of machine totals against ballots) and the other half doing only a miserably inadequate 1% audit.
Besides THAT, the 1% have weighed their lifespans against their vast riches, and figured they can ride out the death of planet earth, living lives of luxury, while the rest of us fry and drown, and what do they care? Predatory capitalism produces these sorts of royal fascist billionaires, with egos the size of Jupiter, who DON'T CARE about the future, DON'T CARE about humanity, DON'T CARE about the poor majority, DON'T CARE about other critters, DON'T CARE about society, from which they are insulated by their vast riches, and DON'T EVEN CARE about their own children and grandchildren. Sociopaths.
And they now control our government, which is why our government is WASTING TIME and MONOPOLIZING all political discussion with this PHONY DEBT CRISIS, while the planet burns!
Deep down, these 1%-er sociopaths are PANICKED but, being who they are, they manifest their panic by GREED. They want ALL THE MONEY NOW, to purchase, stock and secure their insulated "biospheres" and whatever they think will need, or will need to control, as the planetary meltdown gets worse. And they have seized control of the political discussion, and have put THEIR office holders in place, through various and multiple means (of which ES&S/Diebold is the latest and, I think, final blow to our democracy), to prevent even "trickle down," insurance-corporation-run helps to the poor like Obamacare (which includes subsidies to the very poor who can't afford even minimum health insurance). They want ALL THE MONEY. Get it?
This "Mad Tea Party" so-called debt crisis is as insane as anything Lewis Carroll thought up. The pity is that it appears to serve Democratic leaders as well, who get to bloviate against this truly treasonous outrage and get everybody to think that Obamacare must be great because the "Mad Tea Party" hates it so much. But it's really and mainly the greatest boon to the insurance corporation 1%-ers ever, forcing all the millions of uninsured to now pay insurance premiums!
What SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED is extending Medicare to all, or some other form of single-payer health care, along with vast reforms of for-profit medical care.
WHAT SHOULD BE HAPPENING--if our democracy had not been hijacked by these sociopaths--is REFORM in all spheres--BIG reforms, such as the total elimination of private money, and especially corporate money, from political campaigns; a new "Fairness Doctrine" to beat corporations into providing REAL journalism; vast and deep investigations into the war profiteers; serious questioning of the Forever War and the maintenance of a standing military; busting up of all monopolies--the banksters, the media, the Wall Street fraudsters, the crap food chains, the Chinese-manufactured crap product stores; punishment of the outsourcers of jobs; restoring a progressive tax system, and so much more. So many reforms desperately needed--perhaps the biggest one of all, and the most desperately needed: vast reform of U.S. environmental policy!
Do you see ANY of this being done? Do you see ANY of these even being talked about?
NO! They're all talking about a NON-EXISTENT "debt crisis." You know what? If we had just a few of the above reforms, there would be no debt. The debt has been created by the 1%-er sociopaths not paying their fair share toward the common good and hijacking our government and our military to their purposes--for instance, controlling the world's oil--and by a system of outrageously corrupt private contracting and lobbying. THEY created the debt! And now they're USING the debt to create an ENTIRELY PHONY 'discussion' and raging 'crisis' to mask their greed--while the planet burns!
What we need to ask is HOW DO THESE 'MAD TEA PARTY' AGENTS OF THE UBER-RICH even get a forum in our country, let alone the power to shut down our government? And how do our allegedly elected Democratic leaders play along, and why? I say "allegedly" because not one of them--NOT ONE!--can prove that he or she was actually elected. Maybe some of them were. I think Obama was. But I don't know--and NOBODY knows--for sure, except the far rightwing executives at ES&S/Diebold and the programmers in their basement.
That is the situation--as our people are plagued with increasing poverty, our "Commons" is destroyed, our democracy is OBVIOUSLY not working--and the planet burns!
The 1%-er sociopaths are panicked--and that panic may be spreading to others, for instance, to the nutcases with assault rifles shooting up nursery schools and movie theaters and workplaces and bombing sporting events. CRAZINESS!
THAT doesn't even get talked about, in any real way. WTF is wrong with us?
Understand this. This "debt crisis" is completely phony. It doesn't exist. We have debt, yes--which is EASILY handled by common sense policies. We do NOT have a "debt crisis." It is an INVENTED PLOY by the uber rich to disguise their greed--just like their phony bullshit about the U.S. Post Office or Social Security. That is the reality. But we are having a hard time, as a people, dealing with reality these days. An awful lot of our people have just hunkered down, in complete bewilderment at this madness, and have gone "head in the sand" (I hear this at work--people bragging that "I don't vote"
and are focusing on survival, for themselves and their families. They've GIVEN UP participating because nothing makes sense to them. They are right about nothing making sense, but of course wrong about choosing the easy way out--ignoring it all.
The 'Mad Tea Party' has been unleashed on our land. We need to climb out of the "rabbit hole" and look around at the real world and re-establish common sense--for instance, if you have a far rightwing corporation tabulating most of the votes with 'TRADE SECRET' code, you are NOT going to get adequate, or even sensible, representation--let alone GOOD representation--by your office-holders. You are going to get 'mad hatters' acting for uber rich sociopaths, to your great peril and the peril of the country--and, given the REAL crisis of global warming that we now face--peril to all life on earth.
The claim that cities such as Phoenix, Dallas, Los Angeles, etc. would be hotter, on average, than even the hottest temperatures ever recorded in the past, with just a 3*C temperature rise, was perhaps the biggest giveaway that there was something wrong.
Particularly in the case of Los Angeles & San Diego, for example : the hottest temperature ever recorded in L.A. is about 113*F. But the average high in August is only about 85*F. A 3*C temperature rise would not have as much effect on So.Cal. as it would in the High Plains or the Arctic, as well as the fact that winters and nights are likely to really start warming notably first according to some recent studies, so for these purposes, we'll say that L.A.'s new August high ends up being at around 88.5*F. Certainly, it wouldn't be good news, but nowhere near what Mora has claimed.
Furthermore, San Diego's average high is about 75*F in August, with the warmest ever temperature having been 110*F. Now, let's assume that San Diego may possibly be more affected than L.A. for whatever reason, with it's average high in August now 79*F, Again, not exactly good news, but nowhere near what Mora claims.
And even Dallas wouldn't be shifting that far: even if we assume a rough summer rise of 3.5*F, that does take Dallas to 98*F or thereabouts, but again, nowhere near the "former records now averages" schtick that he's insisting is somehow possible with just 3*C temp rises(for those in doubt, here's a quote from the article: "By 2043, 147 cities — more than half of those studied — will have shifted to a hotter temperature regime that is beyond historical records." .
If Mora is truly trying to help, instead of just attention seeking as people such as Guy McPherson are apt to do, then he needs to really rethink this. Otherwise, he should step back to the sidelines, and let the actual research speak for itself.
Our main disagreement seems to be on the study's and publication's quality which I think is very good and you think is very poor.
I'd still say if the article needed a lot of revising and repairing it would never, ever have had the slightest chance of being published in Nature.
Anyway, we'll have to agree to disagree on this then.
Thanks for your elaborate response.
"I'd still say if the article needed a lot of revising and repairing it would never, ever have had the slightest chance of being published in Nature."
Unfortunately, the editors at Nature are only human. They do mess up every once in a while, and if this article truly was published as one of the next big things, instead of just a curiosity, then this certainly would be one of those times, hands down, because literally nobody else has made such a wild claim.
Regardless, at least we were able to remain civil with each other. 
