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Judi Lynn

(160,515 posts)
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 01:25 PM Sep 2013

Chileans lie in street in memory of Pinochet-era missing

Source: Agence France-Presse

Chileans lie in street in memory of Pinochet-era missing
AFP September 11, 2013, 2:24 am

SANTIAGO (AFP) - A thousand people lay on the ground Tuesday in Chile's capital in memory of those still missing from the dictatorship of Gen. Augusto Pinochet.

Wednesday is the anniversary of the coup that brought Pinochet to power, on September 11, 1973. Nearly 1,200 remain missing from his war on anything that smacked of leftist dissent against his US-backed military government.

The demonstrators lay on the ground face-up for 11 minutes, starting near the presidential palace in a line stretching for several blocks.

On the day of the coup, the palace was bombed by planes taking part in the putsch that ousted president Salvador Allende, who committed suicide rather than be captured.

Read more: http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/world/18870662/chileans-lie-in-street-in-memory-of-pinochet-era-missing/

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Chileans lie in street in memory of Pinochet-era missing (Original Post) Judi Lynn Sep 2013 OP
I wonder how many have "disappeared" under Dictator Assad? SoapBox Sep 2013 #1
USA backed the coup in Chile noiretextatique Sep 2013 #4
I suppose "Supporting/Apologizing" for Assad is better MyNameGoesHere Sep 2013 #5
"Assad supporters/apologists." Oh yeah, you went there! DirkGently Sep 2013 #7
This is a time-sensitive thread, as it refers to the first hideous 9/11, Judi Lynn Sep 2013 #8
Sept 11 1714: End of siege of Barcelona. "Fall" of Catalonia. Ghost Dog Sep 2013 #25
Didn't know! Thank you. n/t Judi Lynn Sep 2013 #28
Thread Hijack. Quantess Sep 2013 #14
Propaganda heads... Ghost Dog Sep 2013 #26
It's fucking annoying. Quantess Sep 2013 #30
Yep. Ghost Dog Sep 2013 #34
The topic is Chile and the US supported dictator who killed leftists. Coyotl Sep 2013 #15
Even by DU threadjack standards that's pretty hamfisted. (nt) Posteritatis Sep 2013 #17
There's no inconsistency in opposing two examples of self-serving US intervention. ronnie624 Sep 2013 #27
Truly sad! Also, not really all that skillful. Needs work. n/t Judi Lynn Sep 2013 #29
Crawl back in your hole. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2013 #33
Tragic MyNameGoesHere Sep 2013 #2
Former AP editor recalls covering 1973 Chile coup Judi Lynn Sep 2013 #3
amazing photos. And on Democracy Now this morning - ellenrr Sep 2013 #9
It's so good to see this link. Judi Lynn Sep 2013 #11
Now let's bring the USians to Justice. Ghost Dog Sep 2013 #24
Republicans lie in street Jackpine Radical Sep 2013 #6
Never forget Pinochet was a hero to American conservatives Kingofalldems Sep 2013 #10
Absolutely true. He was their kind of person in every way. n/t Judi Lynn Sep 2013 #13
Not only that, but Thatcher and the usual suspects Blue_Tires Sep 2013 #36
AP PHOTOS: Chile's Allende and Pinochet up close Judi Lynn Sep 2013 #12
What Kissinger said... Octafish Sep 2013 #16
Kick Agony Sep 2013 #18
Cancion del Poder Popular struggle4progress Sep 2013 #19
George Harrison's music was used as torture device in Augusto Pinochet's Chile Judi Lynn Sep 2013 #20
My journalist husband was murdered because he knew too much about Pinochet's US backers. Judi Lynn Sep 2013 #21
Salvador Allende’s Final Speech Judi Lynn Sep 2013 #22
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2013 #23
K&R Solly Mack Sep 2013 #31
And today Kerry met with the coup's great-uncle, Mr. Kissinger. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2013 #32
Now that's nightmarish, isn't it? Hard to even imagine, using old views Judi Lynn Sep 2013 #35

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
1. I wonder how many have "disappeared" under Dictator Assad?
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 01:31 PM
Sep 2013

Something for all the Assad supporters/apologists here at DU to consider.

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
4. USA backed the coup in Chile
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 01:54 PM
Sep 2013

After twenty-seven years of withholding details about covert activities following the 1973 military coup in Chile, the CIA released a report yesterday acknowledging its close relations with General Augusto Pinochet’s violent regime. The report, “CIA Activities in Chile,” revealed for the first time that the head of the Chile’s feared secret police, DINA, was a paid CIA asset in 1975, and that CIA contacts continued with him long after he dispatched his agents to Washington D.C. to assassinate former Chilean Ambassador Orlando Letelier and his 25-year old American associate, Ronni Karpen Moffitt. “CIA actively supported the military Junta after the overthrow of Allende,” the report states. “Many of Pinochet’s officers were involved in systematic and widespread human rights abuses....Some of these were contacts or agents of the CIA or US military.”

Among the report’s other major revelations:



Within a year of the coup, the CIA was aware of bilateral arrangements between the Pinochet regime and other Southern Cone intelligence services to track and kill opponents—arrangements that developed into Operation Condor.Gen. Manuel Contreras, head of Chile's National Intelligence Directorate (DINA), was on the CIA payroll
The CIA made Gen. Manuel Contreras, head of DINA, a paid asset only several months after concluding that he “was the principal obstacle to a reasonable human rights policy within the Junta.” After the assassination of Orlando Letelier and Ronni Moffitt in Washington D.C., the CIA continued to work with Contreras even as “his possible role in the Letelier assassination became an issue.”


This is but one example of why the USA needs to stay out of Syria.

 

MyNameGoesHere

(7,638 posts)
5. I suppose "Supporting/Apologizing" for Assad is better
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 01:56 PM
Sep 2013

than aiding and supporting AQ. So I suppose my "Supporting/Apologizing is a little better than your support of terrorist.

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
7. "Assad supporters/apologists." Oh yeah, you went there!
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 02:04 PM
Sep 2013

That's right! Opposing bloody military intervention in Syria is apologizing for and supporting Assad!

And Hitler!

And people who opposed the Iraq invasion were Husssssein loverz!

And Vietnam War protesters loved them some Viet Cong.

Total. Post. Victory.


You know what should do -- you should totally link to people here on DU who opposed a U.S. attack on Syria writing about their support of the Assad regime!

Cause there's a lot of those ... right?

Right!






Judi Lynn

(160,515 posts)
8. This is a time-sensitive thread, as it refers to the first hideous 9/11,
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 02:33 PM
Sep 2013

and it ALSO involved the U.S., only from the side perpetrating the atrocities.

Not a shadow of a doubt about that.

Nothing left for anyone but an asshole to argue about regarding this one. Even after the US President insisted the US hand should never be allowed to show, the news has been discovered years later by those decent enough to give a flying ####.

 

Ghost Dog

(16,881 posts)
25. Sept 11 1714: End of siege of Barcelona. "Fall" of Catalonia.
Wed Sep 11, 2013, 01:21 PM
Sep 2013

... The Catalan troops that fought in support of the Habsburg dynasty's claim to the Spanish throne were defeated at the Siege of Barcelona by the army of the Bourbon king Philip V of Spain on 11 September 1714 after 14 months of siege. The holiday was first celebrated in 11 September 1886, was suppressed by the Franco dictatorship in 1939 and reinstated in 1980 by the government of Catalonia, the Generalitat de Catalunya, upon its restoration after the Franco dictatorship.[1]..

/... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Day_of_Catalonia

ronnie624

(5,764 posts)
27. There's no inconsistency in opposing two examples of self-serving US intervention.
Wed Sep 11, 2013, 01:28 PM
Sep 2013

Your post doesn't make much sense.

 

MyNameGoesHere

(7,638 posts)
2. Tragic
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 01:50 PM
Sep 2013

The "disappearing" was tragic enough, but the US backing and funding makes this even more tragic. Especially with the warmongering and gnashing of teeth of the keyboard warriors.

Judi Lynn

(160,515 posts)
3. Former AP editor recalls covering 1973 Chile coup
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 01:53 PM
Sep 2013

Sep 10, 3:04 AM EDT
Former AP editor recalls covering 1973 Chile coup
By SERGIO CARRASCO
Associated Press

SANTIAGO, Chile (AP) -- For days, rumors had spread that a coup was imminent. The date chosen by the military and their supporters was the 11th of September.

That Tuesday in 1973, I arrived very early to The Associated Press bureau, not knowing that a military state of siege would keep me from returning home for four days.
Salvador Allende also rushed to arrive early at the government palace, La Moneda. I watched the presidential caravan pass below our office window, and spotted the car that carried Chile's first Marxist president.

This was the time of radio, and channels crackled with announcements. While the coup was led by army Gen. Augusto Pinochet, official word came from Adm. Jose Toribio Merino, who announced at 8:30 a.m. that the navy had risen up against the government. Then someone read a proclamation that it was led by the commanders in chief of the four armed forces - the army, navy, air force and the military police, or "caribineros."

"In the face of a grievous economic, social and moral crisis," the proclamation said, the armed forces "are united to initiate the historic and responsible mission of liberating the people from the Marxist yoke."

"The president should proceed to immediately surrender to the armed forces and military police of Chile," the announcer said dramatically.

More:
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/L/LT_CHILE_COUP_ANNIVERSARY_FIRST_DAYS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

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Destruction of La Moneda, the Presidential Palace







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‘Make The Economy Scream’: On Economic Terrorism

From a coup in 1973 to the crash in 2008, disaster capitalists use violence and intimidation to achieve their radical goals. And yes, it counts as terrorism.

By Edward Rhymes | June 7, 2013

~snip~
Pinochet sheds green, then blood

In the documentary film based on Klein’s bestseller, we learn the story of Chile and the violent overthrow of democratically-elected President Salvador Allende. Before one shot was fired — before one drop of blood was shed — there was war taking place in Chile, but it was a war between economic ideologies.

After Allende, a democratic socialist, was elected, the Nixon administration began a plot to undermine and destroy his presidency. The means by which this would be accomplished would be a full frontal assault on the conservatives’ monster-under-the-bed of socialism – Nixon famously said, “Make the economy scream.”

Pinochet’s human rights abuses, his herding of people into stadiums, the summary executions and the torture — all are well documented. What we know little about, however, is the economic agenda that was the gateway to the Chilean dictator’s acquisition of power.

While the CIA was training soldiers of various South American totalitarian regimes in the ways of torture through the School of the Americas, Milton Friedman, right-wing godfather of American uber-capitalism, was educating economists from the same countries in the not-so-sweet art of radical free-market theory.

From his perch as the head of the University of Chicago’s School of Economics, Friedman influenced a group called the “Chicago Boys,” Chilean economists who had been brought to the University of Chicago to study – on full scholarship from the U.S. government – as part of a deliberate strategy to try to move Latin America to the right, after a wave of popular elections had moved the region to the left.

More:
http://www.mintpressnews.com/make-the-economy-scream-on-economic-terrorism/163027/

Judi Lynn

(160,515 posts)
11. It's so good to see this link.
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 03:17 PM
Sep 2013

Scanned the full transcript, will watch the link a little later when more uninterrupted time is available.

Horrendously tragic. Hideous. Allende was very brave. So glad Garcés has had the ability to keep on the trail of this perversion of justice, and can share it with those who really want to learn about it.


I did find the next part of the interview, but the transcript isn't available, although the video is:

September 10, 2013

The Pinochet File: How U.S. Politicians, Banks and Corporations Aided Chilean Coup, Dictatorship

Part 2 of our conversation on the 40th anniversary of the Chilean coup with Spanish lawyer Joan Garcés, a former personal adviser to ousted Chilean President Salvador Allende, and Peter Kornbluh, author of "The Pinochet File: A Declassified Dossier on Atrocity and Accountability."

GUESTS

Peter Kornbluh, Author of "The Pinochet File: A Declassified Dossier on Atrocity and Accountability," just updated in a newly released edition for the 40th anniversary of the Chilean Coup. He is also director of the Chile Documentation Project at the National Security Archive. He just returned from Chile, and his latest article for The Nation magazine is "Chileans Confront Their Own 9/11."

Juan Garces, former personal adviser to Chilean President Salvador Allende. Juan Garcés later led the successful legal effort to arrest General Augusto Pinochet and prosecute him for crimes against humanity in the Spanish courts. Garcés received the Right Livelihood Award in 1999.

http://www.democracynow.org/blog/2013/9/10/the_pinochet_file_how_us_politicians_banks_corporations_aided_chilean_coup_dictatorship?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+democracynow%2FhVoT+%28Democracy+Now%21+Blog%29

Thank you!

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
6. Republicans lie in street
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 02:03 PM
Sep 2013

and in meeting halls and in legislative bodies and on TV and…

Well, SOMEBODY had to say it.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
36. Not only that, but Thatcher and the usual suspects
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 10:07 AM
Sep 2013

shielded Pinochet when the law finally caught up to him....

Judi Lynn

(160,515 posts)
12. AP PHOTOS: Chile's Allende and Pinochet up close
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 03:33 PM
Sep 2013

AP PHOTOS: Chile's Allende and Pinochet up close

By LUIS ANDRES HENAO, Associated Press | September 10, 2013 | Updated: September 10, 2013 1:18pm

SANTIAGO, Chile (AP) — The shattered left eyeglass of socialist President Salvador Allende, rescued from the bombed ruins of the national palace and now on display in Chile's national history museum, is a testament to the brutality of Chile's own 9-11.

On that day in 1973, Gen. Augusto Pinochet seized power in a military coup that prompted Allende to commit suicide rather than surrender, ending Chile's experiment with nonviolent revolution.

As Chile marks Wednesday's 40th anniversary of the beginning of its long dictatorship, Allende is receiving tributes for his idealism, courage and sacrifice, while Pinochet is mostly loathed for his human rights crimes and corruption.

But Pinochet still has his loyalists, and even his own museum in an upscale neighborhood of Santiago. Visitors can see the throne-like chair that the strongman, who once compared himself to the greatest Roman emperors, used to watch TV after he lost power. The dictator's uniforms, medals and black beret, even his large collection of toy soldiers, representing the different branches of Chile's military, are also on display.

More:
http://www.chron.com/news/world/article/AP-PHOTOS-Chile-s-Allende-and-Pinochet-up-close-4802180.php

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
16. What Kissinger said...
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 05:09 PM
Sep 2013

"The issues are much too important for the Chilean voters to be left to decide for themselves... l don't see why we need to stand by and watch a country go communist because of the irresponsibility of its own people." -- Henry Kissinger on the US-backed coup d'etat in Chile.

Chile's Buried Secrets

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1162871

struggle4progress

(118,274 posts)
19. Cancion del Poder Popular
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 08:28 PM
Sep 2013
... vamos a llevar las riendas de todos nuestros asuntos
y que de una vez entiendan: hombre y mujer todos juntos ...

ya nadie puede quitarnos el derecho de ser libres
y como seres humanos podremos vivir en Chile.

... let's seize control of all our affairs
and at one time understand: men and women together ...

no one can take from us the right to be free
and as human beings we will be able to live in Chile.


Judi Lynn

(160,515 posts)
20. George Harrison's music was used as torture device in Augusto Pinochet's Chile
Wed Sep 11, 2013, 11:58 AM
Sep 2013

George Harrison's music was used as torture device in Augusto Pinochet's Chile
11 Sep 2013 00:00
By Jonathan Symcox

"Played at intensely high volumes for days on end, the otherwise popular songs were used to inflict psychological and physical damage"


The music of Beatle George Harrison and Spanish crooner Julio Iglesias was used to "inflict psychological and physical damage" on prisoners in dictator Augusto Pinochet's Chile, according to a new study.

Pinochet, who seized power as part of a military coup 40 years ago today and died in 2006, regularly tortured political opponents with songs such as Harrison's My Sweet Lord and the soundtrack to A Clockwork Orange.

"Music brought prisoners together because it was a way to deal with their terrible suffering," said University of Manchester researcher Dr Katia Chornik. "But music was also a form of testimony. Many prisoners did not officially exist, so many were to disappear without trace and songs were a way of remembering who they were and what they believed in.

"Pinochet's system also used music to indoctrinate detainees, as a form of punishment and a soundtrack to torture.
"Played at intensely high volumes for days on end, the otherwise popular songs were used to inflict psychological and physical damage."

More:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/george-harrisons-music-used-torture-2265137#ixzz2ebHBij2A

Judi Lynn

(160,515 posts)
21. My journalist husband was murdered because he knew too much about Pinochet's US backers.
Wed Sep 11, 2013, 12:08 PM
Sep 2013

Justice for Charles Horman – and the truth about the US and Chile's coup

My journalist husband was murdered because he knew too much about Pinochet's US backers. Accountability is 40 years overdue

Joyce Horman
theguardian.com, Wednesday 11 September 2013 07.30 EDT

Forty years ago, during Chile's bloody coup of 11 September 1973, my husband, Charles Horman, stepped into a car driven by "Captain" Ray Davis, the head of the US military group in Chile, for a ride from the coastal resort town of Viña del Mar to the capital of Santiago. That one journey forever changed our family, and placed me on a quest for justice that persists to this day.

Charlie was a journalist, and we both were enthusiastic supporters of the democratically-elected socialist president, Salvador Allende. When General Augusto Pinochet launched his coup against Allende from the same coastal town Charles was visiting, my husband was surprised to see not only many Chilean tanks and helicopters moving out, but US warships cruising just off the coast, and US military personnel on the ground. He overheard some of those personnel enthusiastically and eagerly taking credit for the success of the coup, implying US military involvement. Charlie dutifully took his notes.

Before he, and our visiting friend from New York, Terry, began their journey with Davis, Charles knew he had come upon dangerous information. The drive past heavy military roadblocks into the heart of Santiago where Pinochet's forces were on a search-and-destroy mission for Allende supporters, provided the perfect opportunity for Davis to evaluate Charles and his loyalties. This reality did not escape my husband, and he began to fear Captain Davis.

Charles returned to our home in Santiago, and as he recounted his journey and discoveries to me, we resolved to leave the country. On 17 September, we separately embarked on our errands for the day, and kissed each other goodbye. I did not realize at the time that I would never see my husband alive again.

More:
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/sep/11/justice-charles-horman-us-chile-coup

Judi Lynn

(160,515 posts)
22. Salvador Allende’s Final Speech
Wed Sep 11, 2013, 01:00 PM
Sep 2013

Salvador Allende’s Final Speech
Daniel Boyle · September 11, 2013

Salvador Allende made his last presidential speech, broadcast by Radio Magallanes at 9:10 on the morning of September 11, 1973, as the Chilean presidential palace was attacked.

My friends,

Surely this will be the last opportunity for me to address you. The Air Force has bombed the towers of Radio Portales and Radio Corporación.

My words do not have bitterness but disappointment. May they be a moral punishment for those who have betrayed their oath: soldiers of Chile, titular commanders in chief, Admiral Merino, who has designated himself Commander of the Navy, and Mr. Mendoza, the despicable general who only yesterday pledged his fidelity and loyalty to the Government, and who also has appointed himself Chief of the Carabineros [national police].

Given these facts, the only thing left for me is to say to workers: I am not going to resign!

Placed in a historic transition, I will pay for loyalty to the people with my life. And I say to them that I am certain that the seed which we have planted in the good conscience of thousands and thousands of Chileans will not be shriveled forever.

They have strength and will be able to dominate us, but social processes can be arrested neither by crime nor force. History is ours, and people make history.

More:
http://www.ilovechile.cl/2013/09/11/salvador-allendes-final-speech/91658

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Judi Lynn

(160,515 posts)
35. Now that's nightmarish, isn't it? Hard to even imagine, using old views
Thu Sep 12, 2013, 03:51 PM
Sep 2013

of what you'd expect from good Democrats.

He wanted to congratulate him on all the suffering and destruction? Broken hearts? Orphans?

Maybe to get advice on how the US could set up three torture ships, as Chile did, so the US could sail political prisoners around and never get caught torturing them, to death, even.









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