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Mon Sep 9, 2013, 11:20 PM

 

Mitt Romney's La Jolla mansion not a done deal

Source: San Diego Reader News

An appeal before the California Coastal Commission meeting on September 11 in Eureka against the planned larger home by Mitt and Ann Romney has been postponed. Architect and longtime La Jolla resident Anthony A. Ciani filed his original appeal on July 24, claiming the proposed “McMansion” on the Romneys' .41-acre beachfront lot is illegal under city and state laws and coastal usage policies.

The couple's goal is to demolish their 3009-square-foot house at 311 Dunemere Drive and replace it with an 11,062-square-foot home. Ciani told the Reader that “Romney postponed, not me, which only gives me more time to build my case.” He added that it's not personal. “This is not about Romney; it's about what's right. The issues rule, and I hope Romney's prominence will spotlight the importance of these issues.”

The La Jolla Community Planning Association previously voted to approve the Romney house project. But, Ciani says, “the Romneys claim they own the beach out to the mean high tide line and are using that area to enhance the size of their proposed new house.” Ciani argues that the La Jolla Land Use Plan shows the beach to be “dedicated” or “owned in fee by the City.”



Read more: http://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2013/sep/09/stringers-mitt-romneys-la-jolla-mansion-not-/



Went to Romney's house this weekend, took my picture in front of Pitten's Mansion.

As most of you know - I'm in my own personal battle against Romney the Racketeer.
(Just Google/Bing Laser - eToys - Romney and/or Bain - it's everywhere I can find to put it).

As for this story, it is Tony Ciani the Architect - versus Mitt Romney the Robber Bargon

Surely Romney is miffed that his wishes to do are being questioned.

As is stipulated above;

An appeal before the California Coastal Commission
{to be heard during the Commission} meeting
on September 11 in Eureka
against the planned larger home by Mitt and Ann Romney
has been postponed.


For more detail about this battle of Anthony Ciani - v - Romney;
see the previous thread in General Discussion forum (HERE).

KUDOs to you Tony Ciani - for not letting a rich Robber Baron come in and roll everyone over!

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Reply Mitt Romney's La Jolla mansion not a done deal (Original post)
laserhaas Sep 2013 OP
gopiscrap Sep 2013 #1
laserhaas Sep 2013 #2
gopiscrap Sep 2013 #4
laserhaas Sep 2013 #9
MADem Sep 2013 #16
laserhaas Sep 2013 #21
NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #3
gopiscrap Sep 2013 #6
laserhaas Sep 2013 #8
Marie Marie Sep 2013 #5
laserhaas Sep 2013 #10
Botany Sep 2013 #7
laserhaas Sep 2013 #12
MADem Sep 2013 #17
laserhaas Sep 2013 #20
Hekate Sep 2013 #27
Botany Sep 2013 #30
laserhaas Sep 2013 #49
Gormy Cuss Sep 2013 #36
laserhaas Sep 2013 #48
hunter Sep 2013 #38
ellisonz Sep 2013 #11
laserhaas Sep 2013 #13
KinMd Sep 2013 #14
laserhaas Sep 2013 #18
merrily Sep 2013 #15
laserhaas Sep 2013 #19
hughee99 Sep 2013 #22
laserhaas Sep 2013 #23
ConcernedCanuk Sep 2013 #24
laserhaas Sep 2013 #25
wickerwoman Sep 2013 #26
laserhaas Sep 2013 #39
tanyev Sep 2013 #28
laserhaas Sep 2013 #40
ellennelle Sep 2013 #29
laserhaas Sep 2013 #41
riderinthestorm Sep 2013 #31
laserhaas Sep 2013 #42
cstanleytech Sep 2013 #32
mopinko Sep 2013 #34
Gormy Cuss Sep 2013 #37
laserhaas Sep 2013 #45
laserhaas Sep 2013 #44
laserhaas Sep 2013 #43
Snake Plissken Sep 2013 #33
laserhaas Sep 2013 #46
Marrah_G Sep 2013 #35
laserhaas Sep 2013 #47

Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Mon Sep 9, 2013, 11:27 PM

1. Good I hope they stick it to Willard and Ann

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Response to gopiscrap (Reply #1)

Mon Sep 9, 2013, 11:29 PM

2. I think I ran into Tagg Romney walking the dog

 

The place is a mess up there.....

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #2)

Mon Sep 9, 2013, 11:31 PM

4. OMG I would have pepper sprayed him:

no, not the dog!

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Response to gopiscrap (Reply #4)

Mon Sep 9, 2013, 11:42 PM

9. LOL - Have no proof Tagg did anything to me - and have to be careful

 

Being that I'm planning to sue Romney personally (for Racketeering).

But it is a quaint idea....

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #2)

Tue Sep 10, 2013, 12:57 AM

16. Did he tie him to the roof of the car and drive around the block?

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Response to MADem (Reply #16)

Tue Sep 10, 2013, 01:34 AM

21. Nope - we kept looking at each other

 

Ya know - with "that" look of you really know each other

you know its trouble

but who the hell is that anyway.

The kid looks a lot like dad,

just younger and a little less "Romney-esque"

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Mon Sep 9, 2013, 11:30 PM

3. He can't just "wish" a larger lot into existence.

 

The lot has a legal description, that's finite, no changes.

Where I'm shopping for a property there are all kinds of restrictions on building footprint, etc., due to Coastal Zones, Salamander Habitat, etc.

He should just go somewhere else.

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Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #3)

Mon Sep 9, 2013, 11:32 PM

6. Yeah he can, he's Mitt remember?

His money will let him do anything!

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Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #3)

Mon Sep 9, 2013, 11:39 PM

8. YUP - I wish he would go 1 fly over the Kook Koo's Nest.

 

He believes no one should challenge his greatest.

KUDOs - Much = to Tony Ciani

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Mon Sep 9, 2013, 11:31 PM

5. Ann's comments to the CCC:

Stop it! This is hard. It's our turn. I quietly weep for their pain...

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Response to Marie Marie (Reply #5)

Mon Sep 9, 2013, 11:45 PM

10. She looks as if she has never wept in her life

 

Makes Emelda Marcos look cute.

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Mon Sep 9, 2013, 11:37 PM

7. It is a classic Southern California Mediterranean style home







*******
The sunsets over the Pacific Ocean off of La Jolla are priceless
the man is rich as hell but he has no clue as to real wealth.



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Response to Botany (Reply #7)

Mon Sep 9, 2013, 11:48 PM

12. Thanks for the PICs

 

It is a REAL mess outside.

His windows are bars everywhere.

You'd think he'd have his own security there...

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Response to Botany (Reply #7)

Tue Sep 10, 2013, 01:01 AM

17. Love the graffitti on the seawall! Reminds me of Italy...!!!!!

I had a boss who lived in that neighborhood, years ago, when it was "ritzy" but not "Ya gotta be mad-wealthy to live here!!!!"

It's nice.

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Response to MADem (Reply #17)

Tue Sep 10, 2013, 01:31 AM

20. Romney's house is NOT the graffiti'd house

 

His is the one to the right - with red roof.

He is trying to block the public access ways - too.....

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Response to Botany (Reply #7)

Tue Sep 10, 2013, 03:55 AM

27. Ew. He built right out to the lot line and really crowds his neighbors

Next door looks like a nice, homey beach house. You have to have money to live in La Jolla, but that house looks normal, like it belongs there.

The Romney's place is like 4 houses crammed on one lot, and is just gauche.

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Response to Hekate (Reply #27)

Tue Sep 10, 2013, 09:20 AM

30. Romney did not build that house and land is scarce in La Jolla ....

..... so lots of homes a crammed together there. That house is a classic
Southern California and it does not need to be "fixed up." If Mitt wants a
Southern California beach manison he can buy one someplace else like Malibu.

http://www.trbimg.com/img-4fdba7b5/turbine/la-fi-0624-hot-property-pictures-001/600

This little "fixer upper" is for sale.

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Response to Botany (Reply #30)

Tue Sep 10, 2013, 12:29 PM

49. Yeah - but the Great Mormon Temple ain't over there.

 

There's one just a few miles away from Pitten's

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Response to Hekate (Reply #27)

Tue Sep 10, 2013, 11:01 AM

36. That's the "little" 3000 SF house that he wants to replace with one four times as big.

Now THAT will be truly gauche.

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Response to Hekate (Reply #27)

Tue Sep 10, 2013, 12:26 PM

48. The gaudy will get much worse, when he builds one 4 times that size

 

But he ain't there yet....

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Response to Botany (Reply #7)

Tue Sep 10, 2013, 11:12 AM

38. That neighborhood has gone downhill since the original house was built...



I'm serious. Wealthy people are a blight.

My parents used to own a small house in a rural area surrounded by citrus orchards and abandoned oil fields. We had pigs and chickens. Our dogs sat out on the driveway unleashed watching for coyotes (which sometimes got the chickens anyways...)

My parents sold it after my youngest sibling completed his second year at community college and my dad retired. It was still a fairly rural place when they left.

Now the entire place is high-end MacMansions and mini-ranches; utterly unrecognizable. The house my parents owned has grown a second story and an attached three car garage, and fewer people live in it.

I don't think that's economic "progress" in a nation where so many people have nothing -- inadequate health and dental care, unsafe "housing" that can't be called home, bad schools, expensive unreachable higher education, and bad food that causes diabetes and so many other health problems.

People who have that much money don't know what they have, and they truly don't know how much they've lost. They may as well be zombies dancing to the music of mindless wealth.

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Mon Sep 9, 2013, 11:47 PM

11. I sincerely hope the Coastal Commission shuts them down. n/t

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Response to ellisonz (Reply #11)

Mon Sep 9, 2013, 11:49 PM

13. Me too - They need to tell Romney the Racketeer

 

To go F---- himself...





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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2013, 12:00 AM

14. That WAS going to be the western White House, but.....

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Response to KinMd (Reply #14)

Tue Sep 10, 2013, 01:27 AM

18. Ha Ha....

 

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2013, 12:09 AM

15. Poor guy just can't catch a break. Maybe some soothing music will help.

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Response to merrily (Reply #15)

Tue Sep 10, 2013, 01:29 AM

19. I'd like to sooth him - alright

 



I want to - a lesson....

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2013, 01:52 AM

22. Is this really a "rich vs poor" thing?

He's a rich robber baron in a community with MANY other rich people. La Jolla is routinely one of the top communities in home prices.

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Response to hughee99 (Reply #22)

Tue Sep 10, 2013, 02:14 AM

23. It is a Romney (made) Laser poor thing. And any enemy of my enemy (Pitten's)

 

is a friend in need - having a friend

in DEEDS

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2013, 02:36 AM

24. I got a 900 sq foot shack surrounded by acres of bush.

 

.
.
.

THOUSANDS of acres.

Having a mega million dollar house just feet away from another house has absolutely NO appeal to me at all.

Also, living in northern Ontario, it boggles my mind why people, even here want such large houses -

YA GOTTA HEAT THE DURN THING!

Yep, I'd like it if my house was a little bigger - but one thing I do know;

I can heat it, and cool it (A/C) well within my budget.

I got privacy, all momma nature's blessings,

and peace.

CC

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Response to ConcernedCanuk (Reply #24)

Tue Sep 10, 2013, 02:44 AM

25. Surrounded by Bush's - Find the WMD's = FIND THOSE DAMN WMD's!!!

 

Really now,

I empathize with you "ConcernedCanuk'

just a little.

I'm NY born and raised, now spoiled by SoCal weather.

You damn frozen northern'rs

R NUTS!

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Response to ConcernedCanuk (Reply #24)

Tue Sep 10, 2013, 03:14 AM

26. Yeah, he's quadrupling the floor area

which looks impossible on that site without going up to three storeys, blocking the view of the guy behind him, having no green space or permeable surface on the lot and shading all his neighbours out. Charming.

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Response to wickerwoman (Reply #26)

Tue Sep 10, 2013, 12:13 PM

39. Most people are unaware that the very 1st thing one must do in a petition to go higher

 

is to supply an independent "Shadow Study"

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2013, 07:59 AM

28. Wait, that poor guy still doesn't have his car elevator?

*sob* So tragic.

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Response to tanyev (Reply #28)

Tue Sep 10, 2013, 12:14 PM

40. Honk Honk

 

Ah - OOOOOO - Gah!

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2013, 08:00 AM

29. query

just wondering why the hearing is being held at the complete opposite end of the state in eureka?

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Response to ellennelle (Reply #29)

Tue Sep 10, 2013, 12:16 PM

41. It was - and also by (get this) "alternate Commish's"

 

That's all going to change now.....

New hearing in October (if that is when it transpires)

will be before the proper tribunal and may get "full" review
(elevated status of attention is all that Tony Ciani seeks)

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2013, 09:44 AM

31. I like how he's trying to claim the public beach in front of his house as "his"

 

Pretty typical. Its the same in the Midwest on the Great Lakes. All of the beachfront is public but that doesn't stop some of the greedy rich folks from trying to prevent people from walking along the shore or even stopping and taking a swim there.

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Response to riderinthestorm (Reply #31)

Tue Sep 10, 2013, 12:17 PM

42. How dare the wee liddle people - even think about swimming (and wee'ing)

 

in front of THY house/home

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2013, 10:03 AM

32. If they want a larger home why not just add on some floors?

Or would that be illegal also??

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Response to cstanleytech (Reply #32)

Tue Sep 10, 2013, 10:39 AM

34. actually, he probably could.

there is a lot more leeway to change without changing the footprint.
my bro lives in cali, and he tore down all but one wall of his tiny house, they built a big one. but it wasn't a new house, it was a "rehab", and he got to do a lot of stuff he wouldn't have otherwise.

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Response to mopinko (Reply #34)

Tue Sep 10, 2013, 11:07 AM

37. The main reason for the "one wall" trick is to retain the Prop.13 basis

for the original square footage. The new area is assessed at current market value, the old area is not. If the old structure is completely demolished the old tax basis is lost and the entire structure is taxed based on market value. Depending on the local market and how long one has owned the house this can be a sizable savings in taxes.

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Response to Gormy Cuss (Reply #37)

Tue Sep 10, 2013, 12:22 PM

45. We all know how much Pitten's loves to save on taxes

 

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Response to mopinko (Reply #34)

Tue Sep 10, 2013, 12:21 PM

44. If you stay "within" the same sq footage - and same height

 

you have far greater latitude.

As for me, I love the guy who build the Romney hate neon sign.

If you are going to say F--- the system - do it with style

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Response to cstanleytech (Reply #32)

Tue Sep 10, 2013, 12:18 PM

43. You can't go higher on the coast (or in most neighborhoods) - without a variance

 

In this case the Lord of Bain

desires to become he main BANE of all his neighbors

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2013, 10:39 AM

33. Mitt is losing his touch, screwing people by working the system is his speciality

In fact it's all he knows how to do.

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Response to Snake Plissken (Reply #33)

Tue Sep 10, 2013, 12:22 PM

46. That's the very thing I'm doing my best to hold him accountable of

 

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2013, 10:44 AM

35. The Romneys want to keep people from using the public beach

I hope the city shuts them down.

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Response to Marrah_G (Reply #35)

Tue Sep 10, 2013, 12:23 PM

47. Somebody, on a daily basis, has to remind this guy that "You ran for POTUS -

 

but you Didn't Make It!"

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