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Sat Aug 10, 2013, 06:24 PM

 

Dismissed Vanderbilt football players indicted for rape

Source: USA Today

NASHVILLE -- Four former Vanderbilt football players have each been charged with five counts of aggravated rape and two counts of aggravated sexual battery, Nashville Metro police said Friday.

Brandon Vandenburg, 20, from California; Brandon Eric Banks, 19, from Maryland; and JaBorian "Tip" McKenzie, 18 from Mississippi and Cory Batey, 19, of Nashville, were charged in the indictment. Vandenburg was also charged with one count of tampering with evidence and one count of unlawful photography.

Police said the four raped an unconscious woman in Vandenburg's dorm room June 23. Police first got word after university officials checked a hallway security camera in an unrelated incident and saw suspicious behavior by the four.

Metro Police Chief Steve Anderson called the evidence, "compelling" and "unsettling"

Read more: http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/sec/2013/08/09/vanderbilt-football-dismissed-players-indicted-rape/2637039/



- - People and issues across the country come to me for help, due to my battle against manifest injustice (Goldman Sachs, Bain Capital & Mitt Romney). Where, as an amoeba I've been fighting a horde of ostensible, powerful, Goliath's for over a decade now. After the Penn State affair, we've been getting reports of similar sexual abuses debacles and cover ups from all over the country. Most recently, the University of Southern California had several girls come forward and complain how the University staff's are doing cover ups (Student Protest of cover up about sexual assaults - HERE).

- - For the last several months, I've been working with former federal and college officials on a scandal - on going - at the University of Michigan that allegedly involves a cover up of a sexual assault by the now famous kicker there.

We've agreed to become part of a collective to bring that case to justice.

- - In this particular case of the "former" Vanderbilt football players, unfortunately the case has hit a nerve; which made me more aware of why people circle the wagons. ("former" being that they were expunged from the team upon the realization of what allegedly transpired). From my college basketball scholarship days decades ago, I was cajoled by a brighter than most coach to go to Vandy, instead of Louisville or Univ. of Kentucky. Seeing Vandy disparaged in headlines, made me cringe.

But fr--k that stuff, this guys purportedly raped an unconscious girl;
that's extensively heinous and egregious.

IF the allegations are true -- They should get LIFE without parole!

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Reply Dismissed Vanderbilt football players indicted for rape (Original post)
laserhaas Aug 2013 OP
radicalliberal Aug 2013 #1
laserhaas Aug 2013 #11
BlueJazz Aug 2013 #2
radicalliberal Aug 2013 #3
laserhaas Aug 2013 #13
laserhaas Aug 2013 #12
niyad Aug 2013 #4
laserhaas Aug 2013 #14
alp227 Aug 2013 #5
laserhaas Aug 2013 #16
abbeyco Aug 2013 #6
cosmicone Aug 2013 #7
Enthusiast Aug 2013 #8
laserhaas Aug 2013 #15
laserhaas Aug 2013 #19
niyad Aug 2013 #20
Just Saying Aug 2013 #28
bravenak Aug 2013 #29
freshwest Aug 2013 #34
freshwest Aug 2013 #33
In_The_Wind Aug 2013 #41
L0oniX Aug 2013 #9
laserhaas Aug 2013 #17
Dreamer Tatum Aug 2013 #22
L0oniX Aug 2013 #23
LanternWaste Aug 2013 #24
Dreamer Tatum Aug 2013 #25
LanternWaste Aug 2013 #30
radicalliberal Aug 2013 #35
radicalliberal Aug 2013 #36
bravenak Aug 2013 #27
radicalliberal Aug 2013 #37
bravenak Aug 2013 #38
radicalliberal Aug 2013 #39
olddots Aug 2013 #10
laserhaas Aug 2013 #18
niyad Aug 2013 #21
bravenak Aug 2013 #26
CincyDem Aug 2013 #31
freshwest Aug 2013 #32
laserhaas Aug 2013 #40

Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Sat Aug 10, 2013, 07:13 PM

1. It's a shameful fact that cover-ups of this sort of crime have been going on for decades.

For example, Notre Dame has quite a history. Does anyone remember what happened during the summer of 1974? The noted journalist Robert Sam Anson wrote a magazine article about it. (Isn't anyone disturbed by the religious hypocrisy here?)

How much moral support do the rape victims in these cases receive from the fans? Well, one of the rape victims in the Penn State scandal was bullied so much by fellow classmates since their little god JoPa was made to look bad, that he had to drop out of his high school. The rape victim in the Steubenville case has had her life threatened despite the conviction and continues to be personally attacked online. So, do the rape victims receive any support from the fans? Well, not much, it appears.

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Response to radicalliberal (Reply #1)

Sun Aug 11, 2013, 06:03 PM

11. A person can be smart and kind, people can be dumb and mean

 

It does speak well for the decency of mankind.....

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Sat Aug 10, 2013, 07:21 PM

2. The type of person who does these sort of things has brought me to feelings of hot, purple rage.

 

I try not to go there and don't act out my feelings but it's a rough trip for this poster.

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Response to BlueJazz (Reply #2)

Sat Aug 10, 2013, 07:35 PM

3. I'm the proud father of two young women, . . .

. . . both of whom have accomplished far more than I did at their ages. Better human bengs, too. You can imagine how I feel!

Perhaps the egos of these four "men" just got too big for obvious reasons. You know, that sense of entitlement. Seems I've heard about it before.

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Response to radicalliberal (Reply #3)

Sun Aug 11, 2013, 06:21 PM

13. Bullies by any other name are a sinister game.

 

They engaged in one of THE most despicable acts possible;
to satisfy their wiennie for a milli second.

ScumBAGS

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Response to BlueJazz (Reply #2)

Sun Aug 11, 2013, 06:18 PM

12. I know what you mean 'BlueJazz'

 

Trust me (more than you know)

I KNOW what you mean....

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Sat Aug 10, 2013, 07:41 PM

4. colour me surprised that the university actually appears to have acted in a fairly timely manner

on this horrific incident. and with football players involved, no less.

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Response to niyad (Reply #4)

Sun Aug 11, 2013, 06:24 PM

14. Yes, to the chagrin of the dark (cover up) lords among U.S. - there ARE decent administrators

 

And I will remember to gather together a letter of thanks to them

for being brazen enough

to Do the Right Thing!

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Sat Aug 10, 2013, 08:23 PM

5. USA Today's sister paper in Nashville has another report

Three former Vanderbilt football players booked on rape charges; McKenzie posts bond

Also, people could have put two and two together earlier in the summer, as the Nashville PD publicly acknowledged an investigation of "an alleged June 23rd sexual assault at a Vanderbilt University dormitory" on July 1 shortly after Vanderbilt dismissed the 4 players. The Vandy Four names have been known to the public as early as June 28.

Good thing they got arrested. They better get the book thrown at them hard! Please, don't let them be the future Jerramy Stevens!

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Response to alp227 (Reply #5)

Sun Aug 11, 2013, 07:15 PM

16. Thanks for the research and links

 

Appreciate it....

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Sun Aug 11, 2013, 02:25 AM

6. I am outing my history with this post...

It starts in high school, at least it did with me. A party, alcohol involved, and when nearly all guests go home and you stay overnight with your 'best' friend you find out in the night that not all of the guys have left. After you vomit and clean yourself up after drinking way too much than your young body can handle, a 'good' guy helps you to bed and in the course of that help, he forces him upon you to give him oral sex. When he's done, you vomit again, not from alcohol, but from having semen in your mouth and throat for the first time and you tell no one and are embarrassed and full of shame. No charges filed - too much shame and as a State Champion swimmer, he begged and then threatened to not be outed for his behavior.

A few years later, you go to a former Big 8 school for the big Spring Football game, expected attendance is 70K people. You're there with a family friend who plays on the team and he's your 'guardian' for the weekend. You attend a post-game party/BBQ and for the first two hours, it's fun - eating, drinking and reliving how well everyone played and how well the season should go, come Fall. When the drinks have been enough and there's a need to lie down and take some time to recover from all of the drinks, the quiet room you've been led to suddenly has 3-4 guys in it wanting to be serviced or have sex, regardless of your condition. When the 3rd guy hits you for not being responsive enough, you fight to get out and away and eventually the police respond after getting out of the house and screaming for help. However, because of the 'guests' at the party and the nature of their positions on the team, not to mention that your father is a past football alum, the police are not terribly concerned about what happened to you and they believe that will never know what really happened because you were too drunk, saying "No" couldn't be proved, and none of the players admitted to being at the party...although they were there when the police responded. No charges filed - again, too much shame.

A year after the football event, raped at gunpoint during a random robbery and attack, in my neighborhood and from a, later determined, serial rapist. Police called, rape kit done and eventually the rapist is caught and ID'd by DNA; he's in prison for about 20 more years.

I'm now an advocate for sexual assault victims - because I didn't speak up the first two times because they were 'social' events and were considered date rape before the phrase was coined, I need to speak up now.

Rape happens and it happens frequently on college campuses - regardless of their size and stature of the school. I'm happy these Vandy players are going to be held to account and will go through the legal process to determine their guilt or innocence. If the are found not guilty, then let them go on their way, but if found guilty then they need to do be held to account. The should NOT be able to play and/or should be dismissed from the school while the investigation goes on.

Sorry to dump my life crap - but this whole thing strikes a chord, a bad one. While there a lot of good college campuses who are proactive and work to prevent sexual assaults, there are still the high profile, big dollar schools who don't acknowledge the issues on their campuses.

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Response to abbeyco (Reply #6)

Sun Aug 11, 2013, 03:46 AM

7. That was touching.

 

You are a brave person.

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Response to abbeyco (Reply #6)

Sun Aug 11, 2013, 01:01 PM

8. I'm sorry you had to endure such treatment.

That is awful.

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Response to abbeyco (Reply #6)

Sun Aug 11, 2013, 07:10 PM

15. Fret not dear victim "abbeyco" - for the "dump your life [anxiety]" stuff upon U.S.

 

As you can see (and I'm sorry I was called away and unable to draw more attention to this thread by responding to everyone sooner)

those who have taken the time to read your plight - Do Care!

And that is a Good Thing!

Your joining the crusade against injustice is welcome and desired;
especially given to your "objective" remarks of "If" they are (or are not) guilty.

I belong to the 1 in 5 network started by SwedishJewFish (of the "orange" realm).

Will send you some links PM

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #15)

Sun Aug 11, 2013, 07:41 PM

19. Meanwhile 'abbeyco' - Please look at our "We are 1 in 5" Tumblr link

 

and the posting of several stories.

I did not tell my story - just rushed in a poem to help her get started.

Told her I would take more time; but she said leave it like it is.

http://the1in5.tumblr.com/

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Response to abbeyco (Reply #6)

Sun Aug 11, 2013, 07:43 PM

20. there are not enough words to thank you for your courage, your determination, and your desire

to help others. I admire your bravery so much, and am so very sorry for what you endured.

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Response to abbeyco (Reply #6)

Mon Aug 12, 2013, 04:10 PM

28. I'm sorry you went through all that.

And I'm sure you're a wonderful advocate. I don't have to tell you how common this scenario is. I'd bet most women on DU have either been victims or know someone who was.

It's past the point where boys need to be better educated about respecting women and what is expected of them from our society. We can and should do better.

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Response to abbeyco (Reply #6)

Mon Aug 12, 2013, 04:11 PM

29. I feel your pain.

 

I've had incidents beginning at five years old.
There are so many of us.
This needs to stop.

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Response to bravenak (Reply #29)

Mon Aug 12, 2013, 05:42 PM

34. Yes, it's time to change this in the world. Thanks, bravenak.


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Response to abbeyco (Reply #6)

Mon Aug 12, 2013, 05:39 PM

33. Thanks for your story and work. It is sorely needed. All women know and live this.



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Response to abbeyco (Reply #6)

Tue Aug 13, 2013, 05:42 PM

41. ...

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Sun Aug 11, 2013, 01:59 PM

9. Football players and rape. Who would have thought school jocks would end up doing that? Me!

 

I always despised them in high school. Fucking arrogant meat head thugs. Perfect candidates for police employment.

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Response to L0oniX (Reply #9)

Sun Aug 11, 2013, 07:18 PM

17. Jock sexual assault, military sexual assault, children assault

 

T'aint a pretty world, from that perspective.

Bullies galore...

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Response to L0oniX (Reply #9)

Mon Aug 12, 2013, 02:13 PM

22. Did you not make the team? nt

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Response to Dreamer Tatum (Reply #22)

Mon Aug 12, 2013, 03:24 PM

23. Only an ignorant idiot living in la la land would have been wanting that...

 

while ignoring the fact that they were going to be drafted and sent off to Nam to kill or be killed.

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Response to Dreamer Tatum (Reply #22)

Mon Aug 12, 2013, 03:34 PM

24. I imagine many small minds believe we despise only that which we may fail to achieve...

I imagine many small minds believe we despise only that which we may fail to achieve...

(insert rationalization here...)

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Response to LanternWaste (Reply #24)

Mon Aug 12, 2013, 04:01 PM

25. No, small minds lump people together in a bigoted fashion. nt

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Response to Dreamer Tatum (Reply #25)

Mon Aug 12, 2013, 04:12 PM

30. Clever rationalization...

Clever back-handed rationalization...

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Response to Dreamer Tatum (Reply #25)

Mon Aug 12, 2013, 05:45 PM

35. Oh, you mean nonathletic boys are never lumped together in a bigoted fashion by small minds?

That's interesting. I guess they're never bullied, either. We all know that scrawny boys and fat boys have always been treated with respect in mandatory sports-exclusive P.E., don't we?

For the record, I've never looked down on any guy for participating in a sport. I respect other people's preferences. But respect is a two-way street.

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Response to LanternWaste (Reply #24)

Mon Aug 12, 2013, 05:58 PM

36. It's a common line used by people who condone bullying in mandatory P.E.

"Oh, you were chosen last? Well, boo-hoo-hoo to you!" (snarky, snarky)

Well, the fact of the matter is that those who were chosen last didn't want to be chosen at all. Why would they? They just wanted to be left alone! They had no interest in sports! They were forced to take a class that served only the interests of the athletic kids and those who wanted to play sports. (Incidentally, some of those nonathletic boys would have been quite receptive to following some sort of exercise program. They would have appreciated a little support. I know that for a fact because I was one of them. But no exercise programs were provided for them because they were regarded as inferiors deserving no respect whatsoever. They were the nonpersons in the world of school sports.)

To get back to what I was saying, the "chosen last" line has absolutely no foundation because none of us even wanted to be there! We were forced to be there (in P.E. classes, that is) because of a bunch of boneheaded people who really were completely indifferent to the physical fitness needs of sedentary nonathletic kids. If any reason or decency had prevailed, the ones chosen last would have been kids who wanted to play the game!

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Response to Dreamer Tatum (Reply #22)

Mon Aug 12, 2013, 04:05 PM

27. Good grief.

 

Hold it now.

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Response to bravenak (Reply #27)

Mon Aug 12, 2013, 06:14 PM

37. Typical response, isn't it? It's a cliche to be expected. Like a knee-jerk reflex.

Perish the thought that the other side might actually have a legitimate point of view!

Just like a parrot. squawk squawk squawk

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(Just to avoid any misunderstanding, I wasn't criticizing you, bravenak. I was agreeing with you.)

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Response to radicalliberal (Reply #37)

Mon Aug 12, 2013, 06:19 PM

38. It's like we're living on different planets.

 

It's automatic to be nasty here somedays. I've practiced it today too, but I can't keep it up that long.
I agree the squeaking is incessant. It gets skaggy around here.

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Response to bravenak (Reply #38)

Mon Aug 12, 2013, 06:49 PM

39. I did have misgivings about posting the image of the parrot, as I don't want to hurt anyone's . . .

. . . feelings. But I get sick and tired of people refusing to recognize that someone from a background different from their own might have a legitimate point of view. (Bad writing here?) I have a sister who's farther to the left than I am, yet she refuses to join any online forum. She says there's just a bunch of yelling going on. I guess we're all living on different planets. Oh, well . . .

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Sun Aug 11, 2013, 03:18 PM

10. I have two daughterrs

 

they were both raped . this has to stop and this jock sub human mentality is all about conservatives conserving the worst of human traits .

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Response to olddots (Reply #10)

Sun Aug 11, 2013, 07:22 PM

18. I long for the day when honor and consideration of one's fellow man/woman kind;

 

is more prevalent and prominent than it has been (thus far) in my lifetime...

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Sun Aug 11, 2013, 07:44 PM

21. . . .

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Mon Aug 12, 2013, 04:04 PM

26. Almost every woman I know including myself as been raped.

 

This is why.

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Mon Aug 12, 2013, 05:17 PM

31. Campus conversation is...



...the unrelated security incident mentioned in the article was a fire on that floor of Gillette Hall several days later. In reviewing the hallway video tapes to understand possible causes, the security guys found this.

...the "compelling and unsettling" aspect (aside from the sheer horriffic act itself) was that the alleged activity was not confined to the room and some portion of the alleged activity occurred on the video.

...campus security notified the athletic department and Nashville Metro concurrently.

I've got three daughters and couldn't agree more with your closing line.

One went through USC in LA and they have an absolutely terrible campus reputation of sweeping this sort of stuff under the rug. (What other school would even utter the phrase "it wasn't really rape because the alleged assailant didn't have an orgasm"...WTF???)

We now have one at Vandy (in the same class as these guys) and as terrible as this is, I'm glad to see the school stepping up on the right side of the law here as well as making several changes in visiting and RA monitoring programs. I sure hope that last part of the campus conversation about notifying metro is right.

Note: not a post of "facts", just the consistent story throughout campus among the class of 2016.

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Mon Aug 12, 2013, 05:38 PM

32. Rush would call this a frat house prank so forget it. Like he did Abu Graif. Good work, laserhaas.

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Tue Aug 13, 2013, 05:21 PM

40. I must apologize for being TOO busy and not being here to thank more of you for commenting.

 

Will return tomorrow.

Appreciate all the good insights and humanity most kind to those who reveal their pain.

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