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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 07:44 PM Jul 2013

Lindsey Graham Says He Plans To Introduce An Authorization For The Use Of Military Force In Iran...

Source: The Global Dispatch

Lindsey Graham Says He Plans To Introduce An Authorization For The Use Of Military Force In Iran By Summers End

Just days after saying the same thing in an interview at the Capital last Tuesday, Sen. Lindsey Graham R-SC) again said in front of a friendly audience at a conference put on by the Christians United for Israel that he introduce a resolution to authorize war with Iran.

“If nothing changes in Iran, come September, October, I will present a resolution that will authorize the use of military force to prevent Iran from developing a nuclear bomb,” Graham told the conference audience.

“The only way to convince Iran to halt their nuclear program is to make it clear that we will take it out,” he continues.

The National Iranian American Council came out today condemning Graham’s call to war.

Read more: http://www.theglobaldispatch.com/lindsey-graham-says-he-plans-to-introduce-an-authorization-for-the-use-of-military-force-in-iran-by-summers-end-82742/



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Lindsey Graham Says He Plans To Introduce An Authorization For The Use Of Military Force In Iran... (Original Post) Purveyor Jul 2013 OP
As long as he's the first in. bluesbassman Jul 2013 #1
dammit! You beat me to it. He could pout and whine until they surrender. yurbud Jul 2013 #8
He is presently flt rsk Jul 2013 #19
Exactly what I thought! nt avebury Jul 2013 #25
Beat me to it! dbackjon Jul 2013 #51
Excuse me while the Senate finishes laughing.. Mr. David Jul 2013 #2
who is exactly paying for this? Rosa Luxemburg Jul 2013 #30
Oh for pete sakes! Iliyah Jul 2013 #3
Im curious. bunnies Jul 2013 #56
This message was self-deleted by its author onehandle Jul 2013 #4
but but but I thought Boehner wanted cutz a billion little ones azurnoir Jul 2013 #5
I've often wondered if McCain and Graham lakercub Jul 2013 #6
They could be both. flt rsk Jul 2013 #35
Still partying like it's 2003. leveymg Jul 2013 #7
WTF??? Is it time for competency hearings yet? Thor_MN Jul 2013 #9
So you offering up your kids/grandkids for conscription, Lindsey? SunSeeker Jul 2013 #10
Too young for thr Viet adventure warrant46 Jul 2013 #21
No kids, no grandkids, and I don't think Graham has ever been married. maddiemom Jul 2013 #44
Did I wake up in an alternate universe where Lindsey Graham is President? Agnosticsherbet Jul 2013 #11
ach, you never roll out a new product in August! n/t MisterP Jul 2013 #12
We are talking war... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2013 #40
Fucking chickenhawk! Didn't Iran just have a democratically elected peaceful Ed Suspicious Jul 2013 #13
Democratically elected? dbackjon Jul 2013 #52
Kind of like in the US, ronnie624 Jul 2013 #54
I agree... Deuce Jul 2013 #57
Another chicken shit Chicken Hawk beating the drums of war! Rebellious Republican Jul 2013 #14
Well he made this John2 Jul 2013 #15
"friendly" audience? cvoogt Jul 2013 #16
Laugh now. Ash_F Jul 2013 #17
OOO another War Oh Goody warrant46 Jul 2013 #18
That's Lindsey Graham for ya. Spending money we don't have, on another W T F Jul 2013 #20
Must need some campaign contributions harun Jul 2013 #22
Good luck with that. Drunken Irishman Jul 2013 #23
Iran should just lawfully withdraw from the NPT Lugal Zaggesi Jul 2013 #24
No money for pensions daleo Jul 2013 #26
Yep, always money for war ... helping people, building a better RKP5637 Jul 2013 #28
IMO, then, he should mount his horse and lead the charge. Usually these RKP5637 Jul 2013 #27
Post removed Post removed Jul 2013 #29
"Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran" blkmusclmachine Jul 2013 #31
It's NOT the only way... Volaris Jul 2013 #32
That is how stupid John2 Jul 2013 #47
Lindsey suffers from premature attackulation. Gregorian Jul 2013 #33
This Sort of Saber Rattling is the Best Way Wolf Frankula Jul 2013 #34
Pssst, Lindsey, we need to CUT spending, not increase it. City Lights Jul 2013 #36
we are going to war with iran? madrchsod Jul 2013 #37
Blah, blah, blah Lindsey...Blah, blah, blah. SoapBox Jul 2013 #38
One thing both sides can agree on... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2013 #39
I'm curious to see how the House GOP debt ceiling hostage takers would handle this. tanyev Jul 2013 #41
You mean he hasn't done that already. JoePhilly Jul 2013 #42
That would serve the Iranians right... Turbineguy Jul 2013 #43
Can someone explain to me how 'military force' can prevent a country sinkingfeeling Jul 2013 #45
The same people John2 Jul 2013 #48
That fuck face loses brain cells every time he shits! L0oniX Jul 2013 #46
Like John Wayne, he's behind the troops. Far behind. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #49
Post removed Post removed Jul 2013 #50
Would he be so eager to get us into another war if he and his pals were ordered to head up louslobbs Jul 2013 #53
We still owe trillions on bush's wars. Democrats_win Jul 2013 #55
Because why? Doesn't congress have other work it can be doing?? Myrina Jul 2013 #58
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2013 #59
Fucking INSANE cHristian zeolets. penndragon69 Jul 2013 #60
Trying to look like a tough guy The Wizard Jul 2013 #61
K & R ctsnowman Jul 2013 #62
WHAT A DAMN FOOL LINDSEY GRAHAM IS! drynberg Jul 2013 #63
September is the traditional time in marketing to introduce new products KurtNYC Jul 2013 #64
Let's just have our Taliban fight their Taliban. JimboBillyBubbaBob Jul 2013 #65

flt rsk

(92 posts)
19. He is presently
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 08:32 PM
Jul 2013

a reservist in the South Carolina Air National Guard, with the rank of a Colonel. Send his ass in to scout a good bar for the “O” club. The only combat he could be involved in is over the last martini olive.

 

Mr. David

(535 posts)
2. Excuse me while the Senate finishes laughing..
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 07:48 PM
Jul 2013

and awaits your ouster next year....

No justification for another war.

And besides, fork up the dough if the Republicans want a damn war. We're tired of paying for it and getting nothing back.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
3. Oh for pete sakes!
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 07:48 PM
Jul 2013

President McCain and now Ms. Lindsey. War war war, kill, kill, kill. Y'think the warmongering industries have enough money oops blood on her hands, feet, streets, but hey, like the oil industries they feel they don't have enough.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
56. Im curious.
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 01:53 PM
Jul 2013

When you say "Ms. Lindsey" are you intending that to be an insult? And if so, which is more insulting... being called a woman? Trans? Or maybe youre just saying he's a little, you know, "light in the loafers". Interesting choice of words either way.

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azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
5. but but but I thought Boehner wanted cutz a billion little ones
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 07:52 PM
Jul 2013

but now I understand we need to free up money for another war-children old folks and other 'non-productive' members of our society be damned, they'll just have to tighten their belts (can't afford new pants) a few more notches because they do non-productive things thing like eat and breathe



just in case




lakercub

(659 posts)
6. I've often wondered if McCain and Graham
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 07:53 PM
Jul 2013

are on the take from defense contractors, but I actually don't think so. I think they are just two of the most bloody-minded senators America has had the misfortune to elect over the last few decades. Neither one is ever happy unless American troops are dying somewhere. They're sickening.

SunSeeker

(51,546 posts)
10. So you offering up your kids/grandkids for conscription, Lindsey?
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 08:00 PM
Jul 2013

Yeah, I didn't think so. Come to think of it, you never fought either. Fucking chickenhawk.

warrant46

(2,205 posts)
21. Too young for thr Viet adventure
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 08:37 PM
Jul 2013

He served in the United States Air Force from 1982 to 1988 and currently serves as a reservist in the South Carolina Air National Guard, with the rank of a Colonel.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lindsey_Graham

A kind of guy to let someone else do the bleeding and the dying

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
44. No kids, no grandkids, and I don't think Graham has ever been married.
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 10:05 AM
Jul 2013

Along with his present age, I think the "gentleman" is pretty safe.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
11. Did I wake up in an alternate universe where Lindsey Graham is President?
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 08:01 PM
Jul 2013

Most surreal news of th day.

He's grandstanding for the End of Days vote and the minuscule far right Jewish vote.

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
13. Fucking chickenhawk! Didn't Iran just have a democratically elected peaceful
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 08:14 PM
Jul 2013

transfer of power? These people are not the enemy... Lindsey Graham is.

 

dbackjon

(6,578 posts)
52. Democratically elected?
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 01:18 PM
Jul 2013

You mean selected after the Mullahs narrowed the field to those they approved.

ronnie624

(5,764 posts)
54. Kind of like in the US,
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 01:41 PM
Jul 2013

where corporate 'mullahs' narrow our choices with money and propaganda. A candidate who is not vetted by the establishment, gets little or no campaign funding and highly restricted/selective exposure. Our way is a little more sophisticated, but it serves the same purpose as the Iranian method; the perpetuation of the status quo.

 

Rebellious Republican

(5,029 posts)
14. Another chicken shit Chicken Hawk beating the drums of war!
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 08:20 PM
Jul 2013

Hey Lindsey, I understand that you your self have suffered the horrors of war, preparing all those wills for real combat veterans going off to war while doing your stint in the Air Force during the Gulf War. Must have been horrible watching FOX News stories about the war while sitting at your desk.

"Senator Lindsey Graham's repeated description of himself as a Gulf War veteran, despite the fact that the closest he came to the Gulf was South Carolina, where processing wills for soldiers who did deploy to the Gulf".

"Graham had endlessly told the world that he was a "Gulf War veteran," although his service during that period hadn't taken him off the east coast. (The east coast of the U.S.) By the way: In Graham's case, we weren't discussing a single misstatement from a single, two-year-old speech; Graham had endlessly presented himself as a "Gulf War veteran."

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2010/05/19/instantly-disqualifying-unless-youre-a-republic/164977

 

John2

(2,730 posts)
15. Well he made this
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 08:27 PM
Jul 2013

promise to Christians United for Israel, to comit U.S. Forces to War against Iran if they don't heel to not producing nuclear weapons which threatens Israel. So we will go to War for Israel. It is not for the defense of the United States but for Israel. He has no right to do that under the U.S. Constitution. I guess he means after we comit U.S. forces to get rid of Syria first. I guess he thinks we already eliminated Iraq as a threat to Israel?

I don't think Iran wants to develop a nuclear Bomb because of their religious views. I do think they will use conventional forces if any country attacks their country. I doubt the Iranians are afraid of Netanyahu's or Graham's threats. If Iran was to invade Israel, I do think they (Israel) will resort to using their nuclear weapons because they are vastly out numbered against Iran's huge Arm Forces. Israel does not have the numbers to carry on a sustain War with the size of a country like Iran, the same as Saddam found out. Saddam needed to resort to chemical warfare against Iran's huge army, because they came at Iraq's military in waves.

It is the reason Israel needs the U.S. on their side. In theory, if the U.S. or Israel carry out their threats to bomb Iran, they could retaliate on U.S. interests in the region and countries like Jordan,Qatar, Saudi Arabia and even Israel will be in danger if an Iranian invasion. It will give the Iranians justification to invade other countries.

If that happens, the U.S. will have no other alternative, then to comit U.S. forces to a full scale War with Iran, which will draw in other countries. You just as well say Lindsay Graham's saber rattling could trigger the beginning of World War III with other countries taking sides. There is no way you can figure out the outcome either. It is why madmen like Lindsey Graham shouldn't be in any position of decision making. The last time the World comitted itself to War, it was started by far rightwingers thinking their race was superior. I think that is the mindset of men like Netanyahu and Lindsey Graham. They want be the ones to suffer, but the people they put on the frontlines.

 

Lugal Zaggesi

(366 posts)
24. Iran should just lawfully withdraw from the NPT
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 08:52 PM
Jul 2013

as allowed by Article X - just give 3 months notice:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_on_the_Non-Proliferation_of_Nuclear_Weapons

Then, nobody has a right to inspect anywhere within Iran.
Just like Israel.
And nobody can demand to inspect a top secret military base there that has nothing to do with the nuclear program.
Just like Israel.
All the provisions of the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons will no longer apply to Iran.
Just like Israel.

No matter how much the USA pressures Yukiya Amano to demean the office, the IAEA will have absolutely no authority there.
Just like Israel.

daleo

(21,317 posts)
26. No money for pensions
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 09:08 PM
Jul 2013

But there's always money for a fresh war. It tells you all you really need to know.

RKP5637

(67,101 posts)
28. Yep, always money for war ... helping people, building a better
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 09:13 PM
Jul 2013

society, not so much return on investment for the profiteers. We are in a deep rut. 12% congressional approval rating ... these guys just don't get it, people are fed up with them and their direction.



RKP5637

(67,101 posts)
27. IMO, then, he should mount his horse and lead the charge. Usually these
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 09:09 PM
Jul 2013

jerks pound the war drums and then sit behind the lines safe and secure.

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Volaris

(10,269 posts)
32. It's NOT the only way...
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 10:39 PM
Jul 2013

How about abolishing America's deployed Nuclear Arsenal, and WATCH how fast the rest of the world follows our lead..and then if Iran STILL wants a bomb, the rest of the Planet can call them uncivilized on our behalf.

I don't care if Iran has a nuke anyway (and neither does Lindsey, if he stops to think about it). I care that they don't drop one on Jerusalem or Tel Aviv, and there's enough daylight between those two things that allowing the first does NOT guarantee the second.

 

John2

(2,730 posts)
47. That is how stupid
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 11:46 AM
Jul 2013

the entire argument is. If Israel has 200 nuclear warheads already, what difference does it make if Iran even has one? The region is already unstable and gives one country the military advantage to threaten the rest.

The argument by the U.S. and Israel even gets more revealing, because the U.S. deploys nuclear weapons in different countries such as Turkey, under a NATO Treaty. And they are still holding Jonathan Pollard under the pretense he stole nuclear secrets and gave them to Israel, which makes me suspicious. Why did the U.S. decide to punish an individual instead of putting sanctions on Israel for espionage? It is a good cover if someone wanted to turn the blind eye to Israel getting a nuclear arsenal. It mkes the U.S. look like they are doing something about it.

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
33. Lindsey suffers from premature attackulation.
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 10:50 PM
Jul 2013


Seriously, we just can't have that big war machine sittn' around doin' nuthin.

Wolf Frankula

(3,600 posts)
34. This Sort of Saber Rattling is the Best Way
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 11:04 PM
Jul 2013

to insure that Iran DOES develop nuclear weapons. Countries with nuclear weapons don't get invaded.

Wolf

City Lights

(25,171 posts)
36. Pssst, Lindsey, we need to CUT spending, not increase it.
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 11:19 PM
Jul 2013

Defense budget needs to be slashed, big time!

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
38. Blah, blah, blah Lindsey...Blah, blah, blah.
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 12:57 AM
Jul 2013

Shut the fuck up, LINDSEY, you jackass.

Where ya gonna get the money? And ALL of your relatives are the first to be shipped over and put on the front line!

How's that grab ya...LINDSEY!

sinkingfeeling

(51,444 posts)
45. Can someone explain to me how 'military force' can prevent a country
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 10:33 AM
Jul 2013

from developing a bomb? All Iran would have to do is move all its development operations deep underground. All the US will accomplish is more death, destruction, hate, and the continued increase in that awful national debt, that the GOP is sooooo very concerned about.

 

John2

(2,730 posts)
48. The same people
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 12:07 PM
Jul 2013

that you see, wanting to discriminate against other Americans, are running the Government. You think they are only racist at home but not in the International arena? I pointed out Graham's friendly audience for a reason. His audience was Christians for Israel. THey are probably against abortion, voting rights and immigration rights too. They are our religious extremists. Just listen to someone like Sarah Palin. They operate from the premise of cultural superiority. If Iran got a bomb, it places them closer to equality which threatens their idea of superiority.

When you hear arguments from the right that Iranians or Arabs can't even build an airplane that flies, but on the other hand have the intelligence to build a nuclear bomb defeats the whole idea of racial superiority for these people. They keep bragging about Israelis' superior military but they aren't any smarter than any other people. They got that superior weaponry from the United States which has a history based on racism. Manifest Destiny,the Slave Trade,Civil War, and Civil Rights Movement all testify to that in our History, which many Americans want to deny. This is a country's government that once supported Apartheid South Africa over human rights. It took Civil Rights movements to change that Policy too, when many of the same people such as Lindsy Graham supported countries like South Africa. It may not have been Graham but the main supporters came from his rightwing constituents and many was on the religious right.

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louslobbs

(3,230 posts)
53. Would he be so eager to get us into another war if he and his pals were ordered to head up
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 01:24 PM
Jul 2013

the first invasion forces, or will this just be another bomb'em from afar and watch it on television with a drink in one hand and some popcorn in the other kind of thing? These people make me sick.
Lou

Democrats_win

(6,539 posts)
55. We still owe trillions on bush's wars.
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 01:53 PM
Jul 2013

Guess who'll pay this time? Just like last time: We will PAY. We'll pay more for college loans, more government cuts, more tax breaks for multi-billionaires, much higher gas prices, and higher food prices.

Oh, and don't forget about the extra security they'll use to take away more of our rights because they keep screwing around in the Middle East. The GOP will use the opportunity to keep us good and scared. The only thing we EVER have to fear is the GOP.

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The Wizard

(12,541 posts)
61. Trying to look like a tough guy
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 04:16 PM
Jul 2013

to appease the teabagger element, and Lindsy knows all about teabagging.

drynberg

(1,648 posts)
63. WHAT A DAMN FOOL LINDSEY GRAHAM IS!
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 08:30 AM
Jul 2013

Lindsey is just a'helpin' the Dems with this WAR statement. Rattlin' Swords wrapped in Ole Glory, just a clown like a skit too corny for SNL, but perversely funny just the same and of couse a lot pathetic. Let's laugh this clown off the stage.

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
64. September is the traditional time in marketing to introduce new products
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 08:37 AM
Jul 2013

Here is an artist's conception of how Graham can introduce war with Iran:

JimboBillyBubbaBob

(1,389 posts)
65. Let's just have our Taliban fight their Taliban.
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 09:40 AM
Jul 2013

Or let's have our fundamentalists fight their fundamentalists. That way we get two for the price of one. Mutually assured destruction all over again.

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