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99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
1. Spain apologized, then "denied it had closed its airspace to his flight." ?? huh?
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 12:51 AM
Jul 2013

That's a rather an odd juxtaposition, if you ask me.

What are they "apologizing" for doing then?

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
6. I speculate that all the apologist monkeys
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 10:16 AM
Jul 2013

who were ridiculing Evo Morales and Bolivia are out celebrating Zimmerman's victory.

struggle4progress

(118,273 posts)
3. Nobody seems to be reproducing the full text of the note Spain's envoy presented to Quito
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 01:45 AM
Jul 2013

It's likely to be polite diplomatese

As far as I can tell, from the snippets I've seen, Spain has stated that Spain was inadvertently caught up in the events and never closed its airspace or restricted the President's access to its airspace; has expressed its regrets for the inconvenience, discomfort, and irritation of the Bolivian President; has further expressed its regrets its ambassador in Vienna was ineffective or somehow offensive; and finally regards the matter as closed

The proper reading, I might guess, is something along the following lines:

Hi, Bolivia! Look, we're always tickled pink to have the President of Bolivia enjoy our beautiful and scenic Spanish airspace -- in which we take an enormous national pride, perhaps comparable only to the enormous national pride we know you Bolivians take in your beautiful and scenic airspace, which we consider second only to the beautiful and scenic airspace of Spain -- and we had really been looking forward to waving howdy as you flew by. But cheese Louise! we really don't have a clue what all this is supposed to be about: we don't invite ourselves to clusterfucks, and whenever it looks like a clusterfuck might be in progress we make it a point of honor to scram as quickly as we politely can. Naturally, we are very sorry that the President of Bolivia experienced travel delays, and we sure know how grumpy we all feel when that happens to us. And golly gosh, we do feel awful bad our ambassador didn't know what lullabies or funny songs to sing to soothe the Honorable the President of the Great and Sovereign State of Bolivia. So, what we're suggesting is this that we send you this nice note, from which we have carefully edited out most of what we would really like to say, and you can call it an apology if you like, but we're tired of this fucking bullshit and we're not playing along anymore, so grow up. From your BFF, Spain

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
4. Was there groveling? Because it's no good without the groveling.
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 03:00 AM
Jul 2013
- I mean, for impeding the movement of the President of another country's plane, it would seem more than apropos. Mandatory, really. And it always looks better in hindsight if there was at least a little groveling. For the legacy....

K&R



Judi Lynn

(160,515 posts)
5. There has to be some groveling, good grief! Where are their manners?
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 06:05 AM
Jul 2013

A man never stands so high as when he stoops to grovel when the occasion requires.

Their apology is a greater insult without adequate groveling.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
8. Maybe this will punch a small hole in that giant wall of denial over in General Discussion.
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 01:51 PM
Jul 2013

But probably not.

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