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bathroommonkey76

(3,827 posts)
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 03:52 PM Feb 2012

Facebook Asking Some Users To Upload Government Issued IDs

Facebook on Thursday began asking certain popular users to upload photos of their government issued identification cards to help the social network test a new accounts verification service, the social network confirmed to TPM.

“​The new process enables people to verify their identities by submitting a government issued ID,” a Facebook spokesperson said.

Facebook also revealed to TechCrunch, which first broke the news of the new verification process on Wednesday night, that it will “permanently delete” the ID information after the account holder has been verified.

Facebook did not elaborate on how exactly it will go about verifying the IDs or the accounts supposedly attached to them.

Twitter and Google Plus, which also offer account verification services for selected users and have done so for months (years in the case of Twitter), are similarly opaque about how those verification processes work.

Read more here:

http://idealab.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/02/facebook-now-verifying-accounts-making-users-upload-govt-issued-ids.php

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Facebook Asking Some Users To Upload Government Issued IDs (Original Post) bathroommonkey76 Feb 2012 OP
which Government issued IDs? Lifelong Protester Feb 2012 #1
Screenshot taken from Techcrunch bathroommonkey76 Feb 2012 #2
Wow. and NO WAY! Lifelong Protester Feb 2012 #6
When FB changed its privacy policy for the 8237429847th time Denver Donkeys Feb 2012 #14
But you can't really quit Facebook nxylas Feb 2012 #15
true Denver Donkeys Feb 2012 #16
Yep. Lifelong Protester Feb 2012 #25
That's why christx30 Feb 2012 #53
Oh, that was good... Lifelong Protester Feb 2012 #54
If you actualy would have read the instructions given it said BLACKOUT SENSITIVE DATA! sce56 Feb 2012 #18
Why are there 50 profile privacy options on FB? bathroommonkey76 Feb 2012 #20
Because users screamed about not having enough privacy controls. boppers Feb 2012 #37
Blacking out sensitive data invalidates the verification process. Gormy Cuss Feb 2012 #28
Social Security cards have no pictures Lifelong Protester Feb 2012 #36
You can cross-verify the number as being valid for the name. boppers Feb 2012 #38
No one has to do it. This is for celebrities that want to go by their stage name. Gore1FL Feb 2012 #34
Holy shit! Not in a million years! tpsbmam Feb 2012 #26
HAH!, that'll EvilAL Feb 2012 #3
Creepy, if you ask me. closeupready Feb 2012 #4
wtf are popular users? dipsydoodle Feb 2012 #5
fucked if I know.. nt EvilAL Feb 2012 #8
Tends to happen for "big name" people - politicians, celebrities, stuff like that Posteritatis Feb 2012 #11
people were creating accounts claiming to be Tommy Jordan KurtNYC Feb 2012 #17
Popular users = celebrities and publicly-notable individuals. n/t Chan790 Feb 2012 #22
They may be talking about celebrities FrodosPet Feb 2012 #43
Yes I think you're right on reflection dipsydoodle Feb 2012 #44
Oh, this will work well.... Sherman A1 Feb 2012 #7
KMA FB! LadyHawkAZ Feb 2012 #9
Richardo Asking Facebook To Upload His Foot to Zuckerberg's Balls Richardo Feb 2012 #10
I hope this is not the start of a nasty trend for social sites dixiegrrrrl Feb 2012 #12
Seems a little like our problems with Citizens' United to me. If YOU claim a right to speech, patrice Feb 2012 #13
The failing $5 bil IPO, the attrition rate, and this KurtNYC Feb 2012 #19
Google+ calls the segregation "circles". boppers Feb 2012 #39
I'll upload all the government IDs I can get, as long as they aren't mine saras Feb 2012 #21
re: Facebook Asking Some Users To Upload Government Issued IDs allan01 Feb 2012 #23
He hasn't taken it... kirby Feb 2012 #33
Seems like a nice way BadgerKid Feb 2012 #24
Zuckerberg better prepare to give me his SS# before I give him mine. TBF Feb 2012 #27
Are you famous? Do you have millions of people trying to impersonate you? boppers Feb 2012 #42
You have no idea who anyone is on a message board TBF Feb 2012 #47
If I need to, I can subpeona a message board and get an IP. boppers Feb 2012 #49
Duh - but you'd have to have a pretty good reason for doing so. TBF Feb 2012 #50
Facebook is doing the same thing as DU. boppers Feb 2012 #51
A wonderful means to halve your identity stolen JJW Feb 2012 #29
NOT. ON. YOUR. FUCKING. LIFE. KatyaR Feb 2012 #30
Yuck. BlueIris Feb 2012 #31
Spam deleted by cyberswede (MIR Team) sdfghytyt Feb 2012 #32
This is a voluntary thing for celebrities Gore1FL Feb 2012 #35
They don't need that info, even from celebrities. Frank Cannon Feb 2012 #46
If you are ever a celebrity, don't do it n/t Gore1FL Feb 2012 #48
They are testing a verification service. woo me with science Feb 2012 #52
Deine papiere, swinehund!!! Bad_Ronald Feb 2012 #40
Good idea. applegrove Feb 2012 #41
This message was self-deleted by its author UCmeNdc Feb 2012 #45
Yeah, voluntary - For Now n/t egeorgequi Feb 2012 #55
Sign this newhopeministriescwd Jun 2012 #56

Lifelong Protester

(8,421 posts)
1. which Government issued IDs?
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 04:08 PM
Feb 2012

Sorry, I didn't read the article first, maybe this is overseas? If it's in the good ole USA, I don't know nuthin' about a government issued ID

Lifelong Protester

(8,421 posts)
6. Wow. and NO WAY!
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 04:25 PM
Feb 2012

"yeah, heh heh, just upload your passport...or your SS number...heh heh. It's safe with us!"

Nuts on that noise, it'll be buh-bye FB before I go through that crap.

nxylas

(6,440 posts)
15. But you can't really quit Facebook
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 05:08 PM
Feb 2012

It's like Hotel California, you can check out, but you can never leave. They will still have all your information in perpituity.

Lifelong Protester

(8,421 posts)
25. Yep.
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 07:27 PM
Feb 2012

never click on those stupid ads. no info about my B-day, college, etc. My likes include: breathing, walking....

 

sce56

(4,828 posts)
18. If you actualy would have read the instructions given it said BLACKOUT SENSITIVE DATA!
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 05:25 PM
Feb 2012

Like License number etc.
Not in favor of this but they do not want your id #'s

 

bathroommonkey76

(3,827 posts)
20. Why are there 50 profile privacy options on FB?
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 05:36 PM
Feb 2012

I know that I am exaggerating a bit, but FB tends to not explain their actions for the average user to understand. They have been doing this type of thing for a long time.

They don't need your id #s. FB already knows who you are. With all of the information they collect on their users it's conceivable that your face is in some database somewhere. I do not trust these clowns for their sly data gathering techniques and neither should YOU!

boppers

(16,588 posts)
37. Because users screamed about not having enough privacy controls.
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 02:31 AM
Feb 2012

"I only want these 5 people to know I'm gay" is a real privacy headache to manage, software wise.

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
28. Blacking out sensitive data invalidates the verification process.
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 08:01 PM
Feb 2012

If unique identifiers like account numbers and SSNs are blacked out they may as well just take the user's word for it.

That instruction makes sense to me only in a testing phase. A real rollout of verification would need that info or the IDs are useless.

Lifelong Protester

(8,421 posts)
36. Social Security cards have no pictures
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 01:25 AM
Feb 2012

what would you be uploading? You could FAKE an SS with ANY name on it.

boppers

(16,588 posts)
38. You can cross-verify the number as being valid for the name.
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 02:33 AM
Feb 2012

To fake being somebody else, you'd have to know their name, *and* number, otherwise E-verify will kick it back as invalid.

Gore1FL

(21,104 posts)
34. No one has to do it. This is for celebrities that want to go by their stage name.
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 01:14 AM
Feb 2012

They have to fill out a form that says they are indeed the famous person they say they are in order to use the nick name of the famous person they say they are.


For example, Stefani Germanotta, aka Lady Gaga, could use Verified Accounts to verify that she is the famous Stefani Germanotta, to display her name as “Stefani Germanotta (Lady Gaga)”, or display it as simply “Lady Gaga” with Stefani Germanotta appearing the About page of her profile.

Lady Gaga would then appear more frequently in Facebook’s Subscribe suggestions. Additionally, those who enjoy her music wouldn’t accidentally subscribe to another person with the same birth name, or that registered an account with that name in hopes of duping subscribers and spamming them.

Facebook will manually approve alternative names to make sure they’re real stage names, pen names, or otherwise established monikers for applicants. It will need to be careful to avoid mistakenly verifying fake accounts, like Twitter did in the Wendi Murdoch fiasco.


This is a non-issue. There is no there there.

EvilAL

(1,437 posts)
3. HAH!, that'll
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 04:18 PM
Feb 2012

be the fucking day. They tell me they can't get ahold of me by email every time I log in, but I get emails from them all the fucking time. Seems to be like a twitter account verification to stop epople form making accounts of famous or popular people..
Fuck them..

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
5. wtf are popular users?
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 04:24 PM
Feb 2012

Those they like?

I'd says its DOBs is all they really want for marketing databases.

Maybe there will be something about fuck off they cant quite grasp.

Posteritatis

(18,807 posts)
11. Tends to happen for "big name" people - politicians, celebrities, stuff like that
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 04:40 PM
Feb 2012

As a not-Facebook example, I remember some Trek actors getting briefly in trouble for using their own names on other platforms until they could prove they were who they said they were, as opposed to some schlub claiming to be someone else (which isn't rare).

As a Facebook-specific example, George Takei'd probably get that if it wasn't already fairly thoroughly obvious the account's his.

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
17. people were creating accounts claiming to be Tommy Jordan
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 05:23 PM
Feb 2012

and Jordan's lawyers are trying to stop it.

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
43. They may be talking about celebrities
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 05:41 AM
Feb 2012

A lot of famous people have a number of impersonators online. This may just be a reaction to that. If I were famous, I might even appreciate having a tool to combat people who can cause damage to my reputation.

So long as you don't have to send them ID numbers, I am not quite as freaked out about this as many other aspects of our modern electronic lives.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
44. Yes I think you're right on reflection
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 05:50 AM
Feb 2012

I guess its to help prevent spoofing in some instances.

I'm reminded of when Microsoft took a guy in Scotland to court over the use of his company name - MikeRoweSoft. They lost because his name really is Mike Rowe and the small size of his company was such that no confusion should ever arise.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
12. I hope this is not the start of a nasty trend for social sites
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 04:47 PM
Feb 2012

but it does smell heavily of Homeland Security.

patrice

(47,992 posts)
13. Seems a little like our problems with Citizens' United to me. If YOU claim a right to speech,
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 05:02 PM
Feb 2012

why don't I have a right to know who YOU are, on FaceBook or anywhere else for that matter that you are exercising your "right" to speech?

If that right to speech is based upon your personhood, your Youness if you will, how is that right manifested in secrecy about YOU?

If we protest this "right" in Citizens' United, why would we support it on Facebook by demanding identity secrecy?

boppers

(16,588 posts)
39. Google+ calls the segregation "circles".
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 02:42 AM
Feb 2012

Facebook already has it, too.

Nobody seems to use it, though. They just bitch the the site "should have known" that a drunken photo wasn't meant to be sent to their mother.

 

saras

(6,670 posts)
21. I'll upload all the government IDs I can get, as long as they aren't mine
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 06:18 PM
Feb 2012

The idea that a bunch of sleazeballs like Facebook have a right to examine your ID - well, some people sign up to download malware, too.

allan01

(1,950 posts)
23. re: Facebook Asking Some Users To Upload Government Issued IDs
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 06:52 PM
Feb 2012

zukenberg is taking more and more and more of our personal data. who authorized this mornic requirement , face book or our government. earlier fb wanted our mobile phone #s when we wanted to ask for a new password . what next
? this crap has got to stop now!

TBF

(32,016 posts)
27. Zuckerberg better prepare to give me his SS# before I give him mine.
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 07:52 PM
Feb 2012

He's such a little twerp. If that becomes a requirement that will be the end of FB for me.

boppers

(16,588 posts)
42. Are you famous? Do you have millions of people trying to impersonate you?
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 02:51 AM
Feb 2012

Maybe hundreds?

Oh, and Zuck's SS# was already given out, back in 2007. It's bad form to release such info on DU, so I will direct you to an article about Zuck, and threading the privacy needle:

http://allthingsd.com/20071130/ironic-yes-but-zuckerbergs-privacy-violated/

TBF

(32,016 posts)
47. You have no idea who anyone is on a message board
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 08:44 AM
Feb 2012

but lovely defense of Facebook. It's amazing to see how easily some people will give up their privacy and demand the same from others. Of course in your article, which you obviously neglected to actually read, there was a release of information which was immediately corrected. Of course they would correct it in Zuckerberg's case - but the average person on the street - good luck.

boppers

(16,588 posts)
49. If I need to, I can subpeona a message board and get an IP.
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 04:09 PM
Feb 2012

IP's have owners. Those owners lease to customers. It's all tracked.

IOW: If you don't want to give up your privacy, please stay off the internet.

Simple enough to understand?

TBF

(32,016 posts)
50. Duh - but you'd have to have a pretty good reason for doing so.
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 04:15 PM
Feb 2012

And again, nice support of Facebook. Noted.

boppers

(16,588 posts)
51. Facebook is doing the same thing as DU.
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 04:28 PM
Feb 2012

I don't mind it. Others fear losing their privacy.

Whatever floats your boat.

KatyaR

(3,445 posts)
30. NOT. ON. YOUR. FUCKING. LIFE.
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 08:31 PM
Feb 2012

How do these asshats' lawyers not tell them what a bad thing this is? Or, probably, they just don't listen.

Response to bathroommonkey76 (Original post)

Gore1FL

(21,104 posts)
35. This is a voluntary thing for celebrities
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 01:18 AM
Feb 2012

It's to protect them. It's to protect their fans.

They aren't demanding this from the user base.

It's all at the link...

Frank Cannon

(7,570 posts)
46. They don't need that info, even from celebrities.
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 07:53 AM
Feb 2012

There are ways to check the bonafides of a celebrities without asking for their freaking Social Security cards. How about a picture of a celeb holding an "I <3 Facebook" sign and a copy of today's New York Times? That's what other websites do.

This is just more Facebook creepiness. Anyone who would hand over their driver's license to the likes of Facebook would have to have rocks in their head.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
52. They are testing a verification service.
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 04:49 PM
Feb 2012

Obama's Internet ID plan is also beginning pilot programs that will test possible verification service providers. I posted the link to the full proposal here recently.

They envision a centralized service like this to become ubiquitous for Internet transactions in the near future.

 

Bad_Ronald

(265 posts)
40. Deine papiere, swinehund!!!
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 02:44 AM
Feb 2012

Well, not exactly, the link explains it all. But, it's always fun to take a few things out of context with articles like this for shits & giggles. The sad thing is, this probably would be a mandatory requirement if certain elements in our society had their way.

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