Brazilian Politicians Want to Grant Snowden Asylum

[Judi Lynn]

Source: Soft Pedia

July 9th, 2013, 05:52 GMT · By Gabriela Vatu
Brazilian Politicians Want to Grant Snowden Asylum

Brazil is one of the countries where Snowden has requested asylum last week and it looks like his chances to gain another offer are increasing by the minute.

Senators are already arguing that the Brazilian government should grant asylum to NSA whistleblower, Edward Snowden, especially after it was revealed this past weekend that the United States had been focusing some of their efforts on collecting data in Brazil, O Globo reports.

One senator went as far as to call the whistleblower a “hero” and lamented that other countries have already offered Snowden asylum, while Brazil, a target of espionage, did not.

Roberto Requião claimed that a logical and serious reaction to the news of American espionage on his country would be immediately granting Snowden asylum. “It’s a shame that some Latin American countries have made an offer and we are still pondering the matter.”

Other politicians had the same opinion, so it remains to be seen if a favorable decision for Snowden will soon be taken by Brazil.





Read more: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Brazilian-Politicians-Want-to-Grant-Snowden-Asylum-366555.shtml

---

(Short article, no more at link.)

[Tx4obama]

1. Edward Snowden Asylum Request In Brazil Rejected

Edward Snowden Asylum Request In Brazil Rejected

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014525120

[Alamuti Lotus]

2. Your attempt at gloating is old news; that reference is from a week ago

Certain things have changed since that time. Do not despair, however:--the quickness and enthusiasm with which you leaped to the defense of authority has been recorded, and will be stored in perpetuity.

[Peace Patriot]

14. LOL! And we don't need no stinkin' badges!

"...the quickness and enthusiasm with which you leaped to the defense of authority has been recorded, and will be stored in perpetuity." --Alamuti Lotus

x 1,000

[Life Long Dem]

3. He can't fly anywhere but to the US, anyway

WASHINGTON: Fugitive ex-CIA operative Edward Snowden, wanted in the US on several felony charges, should not be allowed further international travel from Moscow, where he has been stranded for the past 10 days, except back to the United States, the White House said today.

"We've made very clear that he (Snowden) has been charged with felonies and as such, he should not be allowed to proceed in any further international travel other than travel that would result in him returning to the United States," White House Press Secretary Jay Carney told reporters at his daily news conference.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/snowden-must-not-be-allowed-further-travel-white-house/articleshow/20978928.cms

[MADem]

4. I can't see Brazil jeopardizing tens of BILLIONS of dollars over a pale tattletale. I just can't.

I'm willing to wait and see, but if I had to bet on it, I'd say odds are against it, no matter what a couple of loudmouth senators have to say on the topic, Also, the source/link is not a hard news site and the author of the piece is a webmaster at the site. It's a bit iffy, at best, to be kind.

And then, there's this--commerce, like it or not, rules:

U.S.-Brazil Trade Facts

U.S. goods and services trade with Brazil totaled $103 billion in 2011 (latest data available for goods and services trade). Exports totaled $65 billion; Imports totaled $39 billion. The U.S. goods and services trade surplus with Brazil was $26 billion in 2011.

Brazil is currently our 8th largest goods trading partner with $76 billion in total (two ways) goods trade during 2012. Goods exports totaled $44 billion; Goods imports totaled $32 billion. The U.S. surplus with Brazil was $12 billion in 2012.

Trade in services with Brazil (exports and imports) totaled $29 billion in 2011 (latest data available). Services exports were $22 billion; Services imports were $7 billion. The U.S. services trade surplus with Brazil was $15 billion in 2011. http://www.ustr.gov/countries-regions/americas/brazil

[ReRe]

6. Everyone has their price, hey?

This is called:

.BLACKMAIL.

You would most assuredly be shocked to know that there are those on this pale blue dot who can not be bought. Imagine that.

It's a big world, MADem. It's a big world.

[MADem]

8. No it isn't. Blackmail is when you know a SECRET about someone, and you threaten to tell if they do

not pay up.

Rewarding our friends with continued trade relationships is not "blackmail." Tell me, do you take care of the needs of strangers, enemies, assholes and n'er do wells before you put food on the table for your family? Do you pay the rent of the jerk down the street who slashed your tires ahead of paying your own?

People tend to be NICE to their friends and loved ones, and NOT SO NICE to people who treat them poorly. That's how the big world works. Rewarding bad behavior only encourages it. We've already said, quite clearly, that nations can do what they want, but don't expect USA to jolly along and continue acting as normal in terms of trade. If people don't want our trade, well, fine! On yer bike!

[Judi Lynn]

9. Coersion, intimidation also considered forms of blackmail,

applying inappropriate pressure to extract profitable, beneficial responses from another party.

The term goes a little beyond "keeping secrets" or "revealing secrets". It's somewhat more complex.

[MADem]

11. No one's being coerced or intimidated. They'd have to be IDIOTS to think they can disregard our

express request about extraditing a felon, and have us jolly along with them like there's no problem.

You take care of your friends, not your enemies. If you want to maintain a good relationship, you don't make yourself an enemy to your friends.

That's how it works.

[A Simple Game]

12. And if someone can make a buck off of Brazil, they will. Trade from

Brazil will just require one more step. Trade to Brazil will require one more step. Those steps will probably just be on paper. Very little will change except some that don't realize how the game is played will be satisfied. If there is money to be made, someone will make it. Brazil has little to fear from us.

Oh, and as for your nice and not so nice people, there are some that will cut the throat of the nice person to get a dollar from the not so nice person.

[MattSh]

5. Ruh-roh...

The upstart Brazilians better be careful. I smell an Olympics boycott if this happens.

Which is precisely why it won't happen. IMHO.

[Judi Lynn]

10. That would be a little extreme, wouldn't it?

Most of us imagined the Olympics were expected to stand beyond politics.

[Judi Lynn]

7. Brazil president confirms probe into US spying reports

Brazil president confirms probe into US spying reports
Publish Date: Jul 09, 2013

BRASÍLIA - Brazil is to investigate reports of US electronic spying on its citizens, with President Dilma Rousseff saying Monday that, if proven, such action would constitute a violation of sovereignty.

Her comments came after the daily O Globo reported Sunday that the US National Security Agency spied on Brazilian residents and companies as well as people traveling in the country. The newspaper cited documents leaked by the fugitive former NSA contractor Edward Snowden.

Rousseff confirmed that the National Telecommunications Agency and federal police have been ordered to probe the reports.

"This would be a violation of sovereignty and human rights," she told reporters. "But we have to see without haste...The position of Brazil on this matter is very clear and firm. We do not agree, under any circumstances, with such meddling, not just in Brazil but in any other country."

More:
http://www.newvision.co.ug/news/644853-brazil-president-confirms-probe-into-us-spying-reports.html

[Laelth]

13. k&r for exposure. n/t

-Laelth

[struggle4progress]

15. Brazil denies Snowden asylum

(Xinhua)
08:34, July 10, 2013
RIO DE JANEIRO, July 9 (Xinhua) -- Brazil said Tuesday it had no intention to grant political asylum to U.S. whistleblower Edward Snowden who disclosed a vast program of U.S. world electronic surveillance. "We will not answer to the asylum request. It will not be granted," Foreign Minister Antonio Patriota said ...
http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/90777/8319170.html

09/07/13 21:00 - Internacional
Patriota reitera que Brasil não concederá asilo a Snowden
Foreign Minister Antonio Patriota said on Tuesday (9), that Brazil will not grant asylum to the computer technician ... "We will not respond to his request for asylum ..." the minister said. The minister .. said Brazil awaits a formal explanation from the United States on the interception of Brazilian data ... Patriot attended a meeting this morning about the case with ministers José Eduardo Cardozo (Justice), Celso Amorim (Defense), Paul Bernardo (Communications) and José Elito Siqueira (Institutional Security Office) ...
http://www.jcnet.com.br/Internacional/2013/07/patriota-reitera-que-brasil-nao-concedera-asilo-a-snowden.html