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Demeter

(85,373 posts)
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 07:13 PM Jul 2013

Jury Acquits Man Who Wrote On Sidewalk With Chalk

Source: NPR

Jeffrey Olson faced 13 years in jail for writing on a sidewalk with chalk. But a San Diego jury of two men and 10 women found him not guilty of criminal vandalism. Olson, 40, was charged with 13 counts of vandalism for expressing his opinions on sidewalks outside three Bank of America branches. His messages... included:

— "No Thanks, Big Banks"

— "Shame on Bank of America"

"There's no evidence that he wrote anything obscene. His messages could be easily erased. And they don't seem to have upset many, if any, people." The jury, which began deliberations Friday, took less than five hours to reach its verdict.

"I'm really relieved," Olson said. "It's been an incredibly stressful situation. It feels really good to know that the people of San Diego as represented by the jury are on my side."...Olson's remarks to the newspaper last week during a courtroom break that the trial was "an unconstitutional overreach and a total waste of taxpayer money" resulted in a gag order against him and others involved in the case.

Read more: http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/07/01/197721394/jury-acquits-man-who-wrote-on-sidewalk-with-chalk?ft=1&f=1001



Is it fascism, yet? Not quite...talk about prosecutorial abuse and judicial overreach! And wasting taxpayer money.
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Jury Acquits Man Who Wrote On Sidewalk With Chalk (Original Post) Demeter Jul 2013 OP
Good, I honestly thought he'd get acquitted by a jury Warpy Jul 2013 #1
Good outcome, but less than 5 hours? Incitatus Jul 2013 #2
it took them FIVE HOURS??? niyad Jul 2013 #3
It's possible they held out long enough to enjoy lunch Aristus Jul 2013 #5
it better have been lunch from some really upscale place. niyad Jul 2013 #24
Right? truebrit71 Jul 2013 #21
In their defense... Dr. Strange Jul 2013 #25
hadn't thought about that niyad Jul 2013 #27
YES! SoapBox Jul 2013 #4
Why the heck did it take so long? bravenak Jul 2013 #6
Jurys want to convict. that is why prosecutors love them happyslug Jul 2013 #9
Wow that was something. bravenak Jul 2013 #11
This is a question of proportion DWinNJ Jul 2013 #7
This isn't one of them Demeter Jul 2013 #8
you are kidding, yes? you forgot the sarcasm thingy??? DAYS OR HOURS OF COMMUNITY SERVICE niyad Jul 2013 #23
CUE THE VONAGE THEME! rocktivity Jul 2013 #10
Okay rocktivity - I'm gonna have to Block You laserhaas Jul 2013 #13
Just click on the smilies button when you do a post. rocktivity Jul 2013 #14
I would have liked to see the jury find him guilty laserhaas Jul 2013 #12
Now it is time to campaign against that DA. Ash_F Jul 2013 #15
And the judge who did his best to obtain a conviction. He's up for re-election in 2014. n/t AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #16
That's right. Ash_F Jul 2013 #17
There are a lot of 10-year-old girls who need to be arrested in my neighborhood! tclambert Jul 2013 #18
geez, I didn't even think about that!! my young neighbor had her birthday party last weekend, niyad Jul 2013 #22
I want a T-shirt with chalk- 'Shame on bank of America' to help pay this protest legal fees Sunlei Jul 2013 #19
Wow, sometimes the jury system actually works! n/t malthaussen Jul 2013 #20
So, is hopscotch legal again? KansDem Jul 2013 #26

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
1. Good, I honestly thought he'd get acquitted by a jury
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 07:22 PM
Jul 2013

of people with the basic good sense to be able to get through a day.

After all, chalk only lasts until you hit it with a broom or until the next rainy day.

His remarks to the press were 100% accurate and the jury apparently agreed with them.

Aristus

(66,316 posts)
5. It's possible they held out long enough to enjoy lunch
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 07:28 PM
Jul 2013

courtesy of the county.

It's been known to happen.

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
9. Jurys want to convict. that is why prosecutors love them
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 08:51 PM
Jul 2013

Sorry, Jury members are known to want to convict, yes the law says they must assume the defendant innocent, but how much a jury gives a defendant that assumption is up to each jury.

I am sorry, someone on that jury wanted to convict this guy, just because the Police arrested him. At least one person on the jury (and it could be all of the other 11) wanted to rule him not guilty but it took them five hours to convince that one person (or even 11 people, we do not know) that it was stupid to do so.

Sorry, someone on that jury wanted either to rule him Guilty OR wanted to go over all of the evidence before he or she voted NOT Guilty. Either way explains the ruling in this case by the jury.

Now my favorite story of a Jury taking a long time to come to a verdict involved a man who was having sex with another man's wife. The Husband came home and pulled a gun and opened fire. The Defendant pulled his and fired and killed the husband. At trial the Defendant claimed self defense and all the evidence shown it was self defense. IT went to the Jury and everyone expected a quick verdict. Five to Six hours later even the Judge was wondering why it was taking so long, so he walked over to the Jury room and knocked and then entered and asked the members of the Jury why was it taking so long to rule on the case. The Jury told him, they decided the Defendant was innocent on the grounds of self defense in the first 15 minutes, but any man who fooled around with another man's wife in his house should know better and they decided to stay out to teach him a lesson.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
11. Wow that was something.
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 09:12 PM
Jul 2013

I cn understand wanting to make someone sweat when they killed someone. I'm just glad they let him go.

DWinNJ

(261 posts)
7. This is a question of proportion
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 08:15 PM
Jul 2013

I think there are cases where there should be penalties, however, if you’re talking more than days or hours of community service, you’re talking crazy.

niyad

(113,260 posts)
23. you are kidding, yes? you forgot the sarcasm thingy??? DAYS OR HOURS OF COMMUNITY SERVICE
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 11:02 AM
Jul 2013

for WASHABLE CHALK????? PLEASE tell me you are kidding.

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
13. Okay rocktivity - I'm gonna have to Block You
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 09:54 PM
Jul 2013

unless you give me the Html Code to your moving Smilies

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
14. Just click on the smilies button when you do a post.
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 02:08 AM
Jul 2013

Though I do have some "exclusives" on my personal server.


rocktivity

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
12. I would have liked to see the jury find him guilty
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 09:51 PM
Jul 2013

Of Pointing out Bad Faith

and the Judge sentencing him

to do it - over and over - Again!

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
17. That's right.
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 02:48 AM
Jul 2013

San Diego can outrage all it wants, but if the people want change, they need to show up at the polls.

tclambert

(11,085 posts)
18. There are a lot of 10-year-old girls who need to be arrested in my neighborhood!
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 07:14 AM
Jul 2013

Who cares how you feel about your best friends? You're vandalizing our sidewalks. And all this hopscotch nonsense. It's probably some sort of gang code.

niyad

(113,260 posts)
22. geez, I didn't even think about that!! my young neighbor had her birthday party last weekend,
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 11:00 AM
Jul 2013

and the entire sidewalk, driveways, and rocks were FILLED with chalk drawings and words. wow!! good thing the police never came by!!

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
19. I want a T-shirt with chalk- 'Shame on bank of America' to help pay this protest legal fees
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 08:02 AM
Jul 2013

every protester they arrest should demand right to a jury trial.

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