Mon Apr 29, 2013, 08:30 PM
Galraedia (4,635 posts)
Pennsylvania judge sentenced to 28 years in prison for selling teens to prisonsThis discussion thread was locked as off-topic by Tx4obama (a host of the Latest Breaking News forum). Disgraced Pennsylvania judge Mark Ciavarella Jr has been sentenced to 28 years in prison for conspiring with private prisons to sentence juvenile offenders to maximum sentences for bribes and kickbacks which totaled millions of dollars. He was also ordered to pay $1.2 million in restitution. In the private prison industry the more time an inmate spends in a facility, the more of a profit is reaped from the state. Ciavearella was a figurehead in a conspiracy in the state of Pennsylvania which saw thousands of young men and women unjustly punished and penalized in the name of corporate profit. According to allgov.com Ciavearella's cases from 2003 - 2008 were reviewed by a special investigative panel and later by the Pennsylvania Supreme Court and it was found that upwards of 5,000 young men and women were denied their constitutional rights, and therefore all of their convictions were dismissed and were summarily released. Read more: http://www.examiner.com/article/pennsylvania-judge-sentenced-to-28-years-prison-for-selling-teens-to-prisons
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Galraedia | Apr 2013 | OP |
muntrv | Apr 2013 | #1 | |
broadcaster75201 | Apr 2013 | #60 | |
Baitball Blogger | Apr 2013 | #2 | |
McCamy Taylor | Apr 2013 | #3 | |
bahrbearian | Apr 2013 | #16 | |
Volaris | Apr 2013 | #35 | |
gateley | Apr 2013 | #49 | |
Spitfire of ATJ | Apr 2013 | #39 | |
rpannier | Apr 2013 | #47 | |
freshwest | Apr 2013 | #4 | |
mountain grammy | Apr 2013 | #42 | |
freshwest | Apr 2013 | #43 | |
mountain grammy | Apr 2013 | #46 | |
freshwest | Apr 2013 | #50 | |
magical thyme | Apr 2013 | #48 | |
Moostache | Apr 2013 | #5 | |
ReRe | Apr 2013 | #44 | |
freshwest | Apr 2013 | #51 | |
BainsBane | Apr 2013 | #6 | |
shraby | Apr 2013 | #7 | |
RVN VET | Apr 2013 | #8 | |
DirkGently | Apr 2013 | #9 | |
Baitball Blogger | Apr 2013 | #14 | |
etherealtruth | Apr 2013 | #10 | |
ThomThom | Apr 2013 | #11 | |
Trajan | Apr 2013 | #56 | |
Corey_Baker08 | Apr 2013 | #12 | |
sheshe2 | Apr 2013 | #13 | |
John1956PA | Apr 2013 | #15 | |
chuckstevens | Apr 2013 | #17 | |
chuckstevens | Apr 2013 | #28 | |
WinstonSmith4740 | Apr 2013 | #18 | |
scarletwoman | Apr 2013 | #19 | |
ruffburr | Apr 2013 | #20 | |
dhol82 | Apr 2013 | #21 | |
KauaiK | Apr 2013 | #22 | |
aquart | Apr 2013 | #23 | |
grahamhgreen | Apr 2013 | #24 | |
RoccoR5955 | Apr 2013 | #25 | |
tblue | Apr 2013 | #38 | |
Kablooie | Apr 2013 | #26 | |
LeftInTX | Apr 2013 | #27 | |
SoapBox | Apr 2013 | #29 | |
geckosfeet | Apr 2013 | #30 | |
Post removed | Apr 2013 | #31 | |
DonCoquixote | Apr 2013 | #32 | |
mbperrin | Apr 2013 | #33 | |
Jefferson23 | Apr 2013 | #34 | |
tblue | Apr 2013 | #36 | |
watoos | Apr 2013 | #37 | |
TDale313 | Apr 2013 | #54 | |
subterranean | Apr 2013 | #40 | |
rurallib | Apr 2013 | #41 | |
quakerboy | Apr 2013 | #45 | |
Purveyor | Apr 2013 | #52 | |
SpartanDem | Apr 2013 | #53 | |
Quixote1818 | Apr 2013 | #55 | |
Sunlei | Apr 2013 | #57 | |
Xipe Totec | Apr 2013 | #58 | |
Lugnut | Apr 2013 | #59 | |
mettamega | Apr 2013 | #61 | |
Tx4obama | Apr 2013 | #62 |
Response to Galraedia (Original post)
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 08:34 PM
muntrv (14,168 posts)
1. Put this jerk in general population!
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Response to muntrv (Reply #1)
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 12:58 AM
broadcaster75201 (387 posts)
60. Don't be a TeaBag nt
nt
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Response to Galraedia (Original post)
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 08:35 PM
Baitball Blogger (38,095 posts)
2. Truly unbelievable. But this is exactly where our world was headed under Cheney's prison camp
ideas.
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Response to Galraedia (Original post)
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 08:35 PM
McCamy Taylor (19,240 posts)
3. How many private prison CEOs are going to jail?
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Response to McCamy Taylor (Reply #3)
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 08:58 PM
bahrbearian (13,464 posts)
16. Really ,I hope thats next.
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Response to McCamy Taylor (Reply #3)
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 10:11 PM
Volaris (8,709 posts)
35. Not a one. I would settle for the State getting re-imbursed.
those profits shoudd be gotten back on behalf of the State. The total profit garnered from those people, in that prison, for that specific period of time should be calculated, and then stripped from that Company. It was money they should NOT have been making at the State's expense. They can either agree, or those WRONGLY CONVICTED, with the help of the State, should file one hellofa Class Action Lawsuit. The Judge is already convicted for his complicity in this scam, there si NO WAY those people would lose.
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Response to Volaris (Reply #35)
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 11:28 PM
gateley (62,683 posts)
49. Yes!
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Response to McCamy Taylor (Reply #3)
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 10:15 PM
Spitfire of ATJ (32,723 posts)
39. Bingo. It used to be a CRIME to bribe a public official.
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Response to McCamy Taylor (Reply #3)
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 11:20 PM
rpannier (22,579 posts)
47. It'd bring down the entire criminal justice systme of they went to jail
Kind of like why they didn't send the banksters to jail
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Response to Galraedia (Original post)
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 08:39 PM
freshwest (53,661 posts)
4. Justice is served!
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Response to freshwest (Reply #4)
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 10:27 PM
mountain grammy (22,948 posts)
42. Well, almost. He should have gotten a year for every kid he sent away..5000!
And the corporates who bribed the judge need to be sent away also.
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Response to mountain grammy (Reply #42)
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Response to freshwest (Reply #43)
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 11:00 PM
mountain grammy (22,948 posts)
46. There were two judges sentenced in 2011 and the crimes were committed between
2003 and 2007. They walked around free until 2011, while childrens' lives were ruined. There is no justice until everyone involved is rotting in prison.
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Response to mountain grammy (Reply #46)
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 11:36 PM
freshwest (53,661 posts)
50. 3 Words, 'Justice is served' when it seemed it was hopeless, didn't say it was all that was needed.
I'm out of this thread, can't even celebrate this effing bastard going to prison with friends.
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Response to mountain grammy (Reply #42)
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 11:21 PM
magical thyme (14,881 posts)
48. I think he should have gotten the same number of years as sentences he handed out
5,000 kids X how ever many years their sentences were.
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Response to Galraedia (Original post)
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 08:39 PM
Moostache (8,662 posts)
5. EXHIBIT ONE - Why there should NEVER be "Private" prisons...
Of all the disgusting things we have seen come to pass in the last few decades, the odious and overtly racial war on drugs and its offshoot of privatized, for-profit prisons have got to be in the top five.
The sheer conflict of interest is astounding, but this calls into question the very legitimacy of the law. Why should any man respect and abide by the law when it is so clear day after day that the law has become pliable to the almighty dollar to the point of being damaged beyond repair? We have presidents above and beyond the law, congressmen and senators above and beyond the law, bankers and investors and corporations above and beyond the law....and now the judiciary itself is shown to be nothing more than another money-making avenue for enhanced revenues. Anytime a businessman or corporate shill says "revenue", grab your wallet and hold tight because to them all it means is prying away more of YOUR money to shore up THEIR profits. I hope the prison officials who paid the bribes are up next and I hope they all do time in general population with a good dose of rumors from the guards that they were child molesters on the outside.... |
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Response to Moostache (Reply #5)
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 10:45 PM
ReRe (10,597 posts)
44. Prisons are another part of our "Commons" and should never have become...
... privatized. As soon as they go private, this kind of stuff starts happening. So glad they have this guy behind bards where he belongs.
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Response to Moostache (Reply #5)
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 11:40 PM
freshwest (53,661 posts)
51. +1,000
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Response to Galraedia (Original post)
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 08:40 PM
BainsBane (46,327 posts)
6. Truly horrific
Private prisons need to be abolished, period.
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Response to Galraedia (Original post)
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 08:47 PM
shraby (21,946 posts)
7. When is the trial for the heads of the prisons who bribed the judge. If I recall
correctly that is a major crime too.
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Response to Galraedia (Original post)
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 08:47 PM
RVN VET (492 posts)
8. Is there no one to offer sympathy for this poor, ruined man?
Just kidding! I can only hope there's a suitable place in hell for him and the people who bribed him and every bloodsucking capitalist who seeks to get rich in the "private prison" industry.
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Response to Galraedia (Original post)
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 08:47 PM
DirkGently (12,151 posts)
9. That case ought to have sunk prison privatization, as a concept, on its own.
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Response to DirkGently (Reply #9)
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 08:54 PM
Baitball Blogger (38,095 posts)
14. +1
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Response to Galraedia (Original post)
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 08:48 PM
etherealtruth (22,165 posts)
10. He robbed these teens of their youth ....
28 years is only a start.
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Response to Galraedia (Original post)
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 08:50 PM
ThomThom (1,486 posts)
11. Anybody still favor privatizing our prisons?
when money talks justice walks
We need to end this private prison system, legalize cannabis and get the money out now. |
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Response to ThomThom (Reply #11)
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 12:11 AM
Trajan (19,089 posts)
56. Not sure who you are speaking to ....
Most of us here at DU are dead set against the Prison-Industrial Complex .... So that question cannot be directed to us ...
Yes to the last sentence ... |
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Response to Galraedia (Original post)
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 08:51 PM
Corey_Baker08 (2,157 posts)
12. I Shudder To Think How Many More Are Doing This & Getting Away With It! n/t
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Response to Galraedia (Original post)
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 08:53 PM
sheshe2 (71,439 posts)
13. Guilty as Charged!
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Response to Galraedia (Original post)
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 08:56 PM
John1956PA (1,557 posts)
15. Sentencing was in August 2011.
Not that I mind that the OP brings the case and the sentencing to light again.
Here is a link to one of the August 2011 news stories about the sentencing: CIAVARELLA SENTENCED TO 28 YEARS, SURRENDERS TO U.S. MARSHALS At the link: A defiant Mark A. Ciavarella Jr. was sentenced to 28 years in prison and ordered to pay $965,000 in restitution this morning after reading a statement to the court in which he denied trading "kids for cash."
Source: thetimes-tribune.com August 11, 2011 The full address for the link is as follows: http://thetimes-tribune.com/news/ciavarella-sentenced-to-28-years-surrenders-to-u-s-marshals-1.1187352 |
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Response to Galraedia (Original post)
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 09:01 PM
chuckstevens (1,201 posts)
17. I saw this jackass in a documentary.
I can't remember which one, but two kids were suicides directly as a result of this jackass putting them into jail for minor offenses. 28 years is not good enough. It should have life in solitary confinement. Rot in hell asshole!
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Response to chuckstevens (Reply #17)
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 09:52 PM
chuckstevens (1,201 posts)
28. Capitalism: A Love Story
They show the creep in Michael Moore's Capitalism a Love Story. I really feel for the parents
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Response to Galraedia (Original post)
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 09:06 PM
WinstonSmith4740 (2,551 posts)
18. As Rachel would probably say...
Privately owned prisons for profit! What could go wrong??
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Response to Galraedia (Original post)
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 09:08 PM
scarletwoman (31,893 posts)
19. An all too rare instance of justice truly being served.
I'm very glad this corrupt asshole is going to prison. I wish more such malefactors would be brought to account.
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Response to Galraedia (Original post)
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 09:09 PM
ruffburr (1,190 posts)
20. These are the type of ASSHOLES-
That make me consider more aggressive ways to Vent my anger and Disgust at the whole right wing adherents, But all that would do is give them a whining point about how they are ABUSED!, Like they abuse the people
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Response to Galraedia (Original post)
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 09:18 PM
dhol82 (8,726 posts)
21. this guy was sentenced in 2011
In August 2011, Ciavarella was sentenced to 28 years in federal prison for his involvement in the Kids for Cash scandal. Wassup with this OP? |
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Response to Galraedia (Original post)
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 09:20 PM
KauaiK (544 posts)
22. For once, someone in power is held accountable....yeah!
This is pure unmitigated greed and it is heinous.
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Response to Galraedia (Original post)
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 09:30 PM
aquart (69,014 posts)
23. Not. Long. Enough.
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Response to Galraedia (Original post)
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 09:40 PM
grahamhgreen (15,741 posts)
24. And what about the corporations (all of the board members) who bribed him?
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Response to Galraedia (Original post)
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 09:43 PM
RoccoR5955 (12,471 posts)
25. 28 years is not enough.
This asshat should get 28 years per kid that he put into a private prison. Consecutively!
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Response to RoccoR5955 (Reply #25)
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 10:13 PM
tblue (16,350 posts)
38. Life in prison.
Let him rot there. Not gonna be too popular in the pokey.
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Response to Galraedia (Original post)
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 09:47 PM
Kablooie (16,873 posts)
26. As long as we have private prisons this will continue to occur.
I'm sure he's not an isolated case.
He just got caught. |
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Response to Galraedia (Original post)
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 09:49 PM
LeftInTX (15,519 posts)
27. Disgusting
I can only hope those poor kids can sue the state
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Response to Galraedia (Original post)
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 09:52 PM
SoapBox (18,791 posts)
29. Holy cow...
"...found that upwards of 5,000 young men and women were denied their constitutional rights, and therefore all of their..."
What a nightmare for these folks. |
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Mon Apr 29, 2013, 09:53 PM
geckosfeet (9,644 posts)
30. Bye dirt bag.
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Mon Apr 29, 2013, 09:59 PM
DonCoquixote (13,182 posts)
32. yay
finally government officials are held accountable!
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Mon Apr 29, 2013, 10:02 PM
mbperrin (7,672 posts)
33. So he collected millions, but only had to pay back a million plus?
Just a cost of doing business, and I'll bet no one else, not the prison CEOs, not anybody else, was even charged.
All they need is another greedy asshole and still in business! |
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Mon Apr 29, 2013, 10:07 PM
Jefferson23 (30,099 posts)
34. K&R
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Mon Apr 29, 2013, 10:11 PM
tblue (16,350 posts)
36. Woo hoo!!!
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Mon Apr 29, 2013, 10:13 PM
watoos (7,142 posts)
37. Why do you think that Arizona
passed its strict immigration law? It was written by the private prison people.
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Response to watoos (Reply #37)
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 11:45 PM
TDale313 (7,363 posts)
54. Yeah, this ^^^ n/t
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Response to Galraedia (Original post)
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 10:23 PM
subterranean (3,277 posts)
40. I wonder how widespread this kind of thing is.
This judge happened to get caught, but he is probably not the only one who has done this. It's a predictable outcome of having for-profit prisons.
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Response to Galraedia (Original post)
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 10:25 PM
rurallib (56,482 posts)
41. $1.2 mill in restitution? what a pittnace
every fucking kid he sentenced should get $1.2 mill for what he did to them!
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Response to Galraedia (Original post)
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 10:54 PM
quakerboy (12,732 posts)
45. Ya know
If we are going to privatize prisons, we should really change the financial incentive.
Perhaps a "per person" not a per year profit rate, IE they get actual cost plus a one time profit fee when the prisoner first is introduced into the system. And they don't get that fee again if they re-offend and end up back in lockup, but they do get a bonus every 10 years a released prisoner does not get into legal trouble. Just to add an incentive to try and rehabilitate. |
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Response to Galraedia (Original post)
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 11:43 PM
Purveyor (29,876 posts)
52. Just how many lives did this bastard 'fuck up'... All know what happens when you do 'real time'.
Few ever come out the same regardless of their petty crime.
Bastard deserves the worst, indeed. |
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Response to Galraedia (Original post)
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 11:44 PM
SpartanDem (4,533 posts)
53. This story is more that 2 years old.
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Response to SpartanDem (Reply #53)
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 11:57 PM
Quixote1818 (25,751 posts)
55. Dam you are 100% correct.
Here is the two year old story:
http://www.allgov.com/news/controversies/judge-sentenced-to-28-years-in-prison-for-selling-kids-to-private-prisons?news=843116 |
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Response to Galraedia (Original post)
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 12:29 AM
Sunlei (22,647 posts)
57. Remember the court that released several of those youths. All the families crying, and crying.
It's at the most local of levels Americans have no rights. The local govs.are so corrupt, they let this happen thousands of times.
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Tue Apr 30, 2013, 12:36 AM
Xipe Totec (43,105 posts)
58. By thine own rod ye shall be... something, something, something... nt
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Tue Apr 30, 2013, 12:56 AM
Lugnut (9,791 posts)
59. This is old news.
Ciavarella has been cooling his heels in the big house for about 2 years. Juvenile offenders whose cases were heard by this creep were released and several of them deserved to be incarcerated. The whole scam created one huge mess in my county. The good news is the juvenile system in our county court was flipped on its head.
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Response to Galraedia (Original post)
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 01:13 AM
mettamega (81 posts)
61. i hate the private prison system, it is destroying
any trust in the education system -
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Response to Galraedia (Original post)
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 01:45 AM
Tx4obama (36,974 posts)
62. Locking, sorry. The sentencing was in 2011, almost two years ago, this is old news.
The Examiner.com is not a reputable news source. The Examiner.com has over 100,000 folks that contribute stories. And in this case the author of the OP article reported on a story that is very old. LBN Statement of Purpose
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