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dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
Wed Apr 24, 2013, 05:01 AM Apr 2013

WHO says new bird strain is "one of most lethal" flu viruses

Source: Reuters

(Reuters) - A new strain of bird flu that has killed 22 people in China is "one of the most lethal" of its kind and is more easily transmissible to humans than an earlier strain that has killed hundreds around the world since 2003, a top World Health Organization (WHO) official said on Wednesday.

The H7N9 virus has infected 108 people in China since it was first detected in March, according to the Geneva-based WHO. Although it is not clear exactly how people have been infected, WHO experts see no evidence so far of the most worrisome scenario - sustained transmission between people.

Read more: http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/04/24/uk-birdflu-china-idUKBRE93N0AW20130424



New bird flu strain 'more easily caught by humans' than 2003 outbreak. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/apr/24/bird-flu-strain-humans-outbreak
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WHO says new bird strain is "one of most lethal" flu viruses (Original Post) dipsydoodle Apr 2013 OP
WHAT, if anything, should we do to avoid it? JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2013 #1
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2013 #8
"Cain't Hurt?", except for when you die. Remember the dude that died while praying in Medina snooper2 Apr 2013 #20
At the moment it's spread through contact with poultry or waterfowl Marrah_G Apr 2013 #11
Without wishing to panic-monger ... Nihil Apr 2013 #15
I hadn't seen that one Marrah_G Apr 2013 #17
No that is definitely not the case. Most people have gotten it without contact with birds. snagglepuss Apr 2013 #18
It says they don't know for sure if it has been spread human to human Marrah_G Apr 2013 #19
Du rec. Nt xchrom Apr 2013 #2
"WHO said this?" "That's right." "What?" "What's on second." tclambert Apr 2013 #3
.somebody had to say it. n/t ewagner Apr 2013 #4
Well played. progressoid Apr 2013 #6
Good. I'm glad I'm not the only one ... JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2013 #21
Third base. tclambert Apr 2013 #22
China has the perfect conditions for developing flu mutations: Crowded domestic fowl and byeya Apr 2013 #5
more than just the locals, the mega factory farms (Tyson is in china) slaughter millions of chickens Sunlei Apr 2013 #10
yup Marrah_G Apr 2013 #12
SE Asia, including SE China also has the problem of humans, fowl AND swine living in close byeya Apr 2013 #16
Meanwhile..... cynzke Apr 2013 #7
It's almost impossible to prevent spread of air, manure dust, or virus contaminated meat Sunlei Apr 2013 #9
The cooked meat is not a problem, its the live poultry Marrah_G Apr 2013 #13
It's a virus. A lot of meat is not cooked to the point of killing virus or bacteria. Sunlei Apr 2013 #14

Response to JustABozoOnThisBus (Reply #1)

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
20. "Cain't Hurt?", except for when you die. Remember the dude that died while praying in Medina
Wed Apr 24, 2013, 02:28 PM
Apr 2013

There are YouTube videos of it-


Happens to women too---

http://www.newzimbabwe.com/news-7509-Woman%20drops%20dead%20during%20Muamba%20prayer/news.aspx


A ZIMBABWEAN woman suffered a heart attack and died while praying for the Bolton midfielder, Fabrice Muamba.
Christina Goredema, 35, died in front of a shocked congregation at the Majestic Christian Centre in Hillingdon, England, last Sunday.

Friend Artur Correia, who was at the service with her partner, Edward, and their two children aged four and two, said: “She had taken the microphone and was talking about how Fabrice was too young to be this sick when she fell on to a pastor.

“Someone rushed to try and revive her, but it was no good.

“We are in shock.”

Friends have been paying tribute to the mum-of-two.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
11. At the moment it's spread through contact with poultry or waterfowl
Wed Apr 24, 2013, 11:34 AM
Apr 2013

Unless you are handling birds or are in close quarters with birds in Asia you should be fine.

Now if it jumps to a human to human strain, then things get more hairy. Then best things to do are washing your hands alot and be mindful of what you are touching, including your mouth,nose,eyes.

 

Nihil

(13,508 posts)
15. Without wishing to panic-monger ...
Wed Apr 24, 2013, 12:09 PM
Apr 2013

> Taiwan on Wednesday reported the first case of the H7N9 bird flu outside of mainland China.
> ...
> The patient said he had not been in contact with poultry or eaten under-cooked
> birds or eggs while staying in Suzhou

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014464454


Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
19. It says they don't know for sure if it has been spread human to human
Wed Apr 24, 2013, 02:05 PM
Apr 2013

But to be honest I haven't been following it much over the last week due to the Bombing stuff etc.

The more people it infects the more likely it is to mutate.

The scary thing about this outbreak is that the birds aren't showing signs of sickness. This makes it really hard to cull flocks and to follow the spread.

tclambert

(11,085 posts)
3. "WHO said this?" "That's right." "What?" "What's on second."
Wed Apr 24, 2013, 07:13 AM
Apr 2013

"Who's on second?" "No, WHO said the thing about flu." "I don't know." "Third base."

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,338 posts)
21. Good. I'm glad I'm not the only one ...
Wed Apr 24, 2013, 04:31 PM
Apr 2013

it's sorta WHAT i tried to do with my reply #1.

i failed.



I DON'T KNOW...

 

byeya

(2,842 posts)
5. China has the perfect conditions for developing flu mutations: Crowded domestic fowl and
Wed Apr 24, 2013, 08:13 AM
Apr 2013

people living among them. The fowl are often brought to market alive bringing the flu, if present, to the shoppers.

It's hard to change peoples' customs but if it's not done it'll 1918, or worse, all over again.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
10. more than just the locals, the mega factory farms (Tyson is in china) slaughter millions of chickens
Wed Apr 24, 2013, 11:27 AM
Apr 2013
 

byeya

(2,842 posts)
16. SE Asia, including SE China also has the problem of humans, fowl AND swine living in close
Wed Apr 24, 2013, 01:45 PM
Apr 2013

proximity. The flu virus can bounce between three potential vectors there.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
9. It's almost impossible to prevent spread of air, manure dust, or virus contaminated meat
Wed Apr 24, 2013, 11:25 AM
Apr 2013

What about the sewer systems from from those mega factory farms in China. Then there is slaughter area wastes too...does that just run into their rivers?

They already wash meat with all kinds of chemicals to kill bacteria. This is not good enough for a virus.

I think these large corporations should pay the costs to develop simple killed vaccines from the current flu strains. For the meat chickens they raise to sell. They spay vaccines on the chicks.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
14. It's a virus. A lot of meat is not cooked to the point of killing virus or bacteria.
Wed Apr 24, 2013, 12:07 PM
Apr 2013

I'm sure their factory farms/slaughter process with a million manure covered chickens stuffed tightpack for life- aren't able to wash off every single speck of virus.

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