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IDemo

(16,926 posts)
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 03:07 PM Apr 2013

Botched Microsoft Windows 7 Security Update Kills Computers

Source: Tech Week Europe

Microsoft has called on Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 users to uninstall a security patch, after it emerged certain PCs were failing to restart following updates.

Some found their applications were not loading or working properly following an update for the Windows file system kernel-mode driver, which was included in this week’s Patch Tuesday.

One effect could be that Kaspersky Anti-Virus for Windows 7 would display a message claiming its license was invalid, Microsoft said. That would kill protection offered by Kaspersky, making the situation more serious than just a comical screw-up.

And Microsoft will now have to work on a fresh patch for the relevant flaw, which could still be exploited by hackers.

Read more: http://www.techweekeurope.co.uk/news/microsoft-security-update-windows-7-fails-113041

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Botched Microsoft Windows 7 Security Update Kills Computers (Original Post) IDemo Apr 2013 OP
One of many reasons I set Automatic Update to "Notify me but don't download" hobbit709 Apr 2013 #1
I go further and choose my time. I disable RiverNoord Apr 2013 #10
I don't even use automatic update. joshcryer Apr 2013 #29
Well how helpful is this? I'm sure mine has already autoupdated... hlthe2b Apr 2013 #2
Not sure, but IDemo Apr 2013 #3
I installed the update. dotymed Apr 2013 #16
well, I see that update occurred 4/09 and it still seems to be working (KNOCK ON WOOD) hlthe2b Apr 2013 #12
I thought I'd installed all the updates, I've been having trouble with polly7 Apr 2013 #4
Someone didn't do their regression testing. Liberal Veteran Apr 2013 #5
Which KB is that? Tender to the Bone Apr 2013 #6
I think it's this one: polly7 Apr 2013 #7
For 10 years I used W2000 without a single problem DJ13 Apr 2013 #8
Overall, Win 7 is probably the best OS RiverNoord Apr 2013 #11
It's ok... but I still go to my XP back up laptop--almost daily. hlthe2b Apr 2013 #13
I like W7 so far DJ13 Apr 2013 #15
Windows 7 is amazing. And Windows 8 is better. David Zephyr Apr 2013 #20
I guess they d_r Apr 2013 #9
My brother, who built this laptop I'm typing on, advised "do not install updates" ConcernedCanuk Apr 2013 #14
Bad, bad advice Xithras Apr 2013 #19
Horrible advice Egnever Apr 2013 #22
Well, that's the last time I update without waiting a week! El Supremo Apr 2013 #17
I've had problems rebooting my older 7/32-bit laptop since last month Amonester Apr 2013 #26
ran my updates on Tuesday night, rebooted, no issues.. frylock Apr 2013 #18
I had no problems whatsoever either, frylock. None. David Zephyr Apr 2013 #21
I have that update Wolf Frankula Apr 2013 #23
Me too, no problems. n/t moondust Apr 2013 #24
THANKS for posting this! MurrayDelph Apr 2013 #25
Nothing wrong here... yet. dogknob Apr 2013 #27
You can always switch to FreeBSD or Linux. area51 Apr 2013 #28
Dual booting Win 7 and Mint 14 here IDemo Apr 2013 #30
 

RiverNoord

(1,150 posts)
10. I go further and choose my time. I disable
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 03:34 PM
Apr 2013

Automatic Updates, then manually check on Patch Tuesday and around two weeks later, unless I've heard of an emergency update. Then I wait a couple of days for any bad news and finally do the updates.

The only works if you're tech-savvy and able to keep on top of it, but I recommend it to lots of novice MS operating system users who have good organizational skills, and most have kept up just fine.

The further advantage of the approach is no surprise 'please do not off your computer' update waits when you're just trying to turn the damn thing off and it's picked up a bunch of updates...

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
29. I don't even use automatic update.
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 03:28 AM
Apr 2013

My computer is behind a router firewall, I use Chrome, Firefox or Opera for browsing, and only had one virus in the past decade (the virus I did get was via Flash so it wasn't catchable by anti-virus programs, very new trojan thing).

hlthe2b

(102,225 posts)
2. Well how helpful is this? I'm sure mine has already autoupdated...
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 03:12 PM
Apr 2013

and I have kaspersky on that particulary laptop.

Damn, microsoft...

IDemo

(16,926 posts)
3. Not sure, but
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 03:14 PM
Apr 2013

If you haven't rebooted since the update, you may be able to do a Windows restore to your last restore point.

dotymed

(5,610 posts)
16. I installed the update.
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 03:49 PM
Apr 2013

I have a few optimization and anti-virus programs running (no free ones), it took me quite a few hours to get my computer to properly reboot and then I had to search closely for ie as my browser. I did not know what the cause was. I did a restore 4 times...

I despise the apple business model, but their computers (my daughter has one) seem to be the best.

hlthe2b

(102,225 posts)
12. well, I see that update occurred 4/09 and it still seems to be working (KNOCK ON WOOD)
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 03:37 PM
Apr 2013

But, I will set my preferences to download and notify rather than auto-update. sigh....

My great sympathies to those who get nailed by this. If a user had to pay for someone to fix it, they would be out several $$$, or if they tried to do it themselves, probably a ton of hours lost.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
4. I thought I'd installed all the updates, I've been having trouble with
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 03:16 PM
Apr 2013

restarting since doing so but I just checked, and didn't even get that specific update. I wonder if there are more problems. Grrrrr ...

Edit: Security Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB2823324) I guess I did get it, but it 'failed' and doesn't show in the 'pending' list anymore, or anywhere but the failed list. My computer keeps telling me it needs to restart, no matter how many times I do it.

Installation date: ?4/?11/?2013 9:35 PM

Installation status: Failed

Error details: Code 800F0826

And before, it was running perfectly .... for a change.


DJ13

(23,671 posts)
8. For 10 years I used W2000 without a single problem
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 03:26 PM
Apr 2013

Late last week I installed Win 7 on a new PC, lucky me!

 

RiverNoord

(1,150 posts)
11. Overall, Win 7 is probably the best OS
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 03:37 PM
Apr 2013

Microsoft ever released (although XP was pretty solid). Still, nobody's perfect...

Their biggest blunder, after Windows ME and Vista, is 8. It's a PC operating system made to work as though it's on a tablet. The guts are fine, but the interface is horrible...

hlthe2b

(102,225 posts)
13. It's ok... but I still go to my XP back up laptop--almost daily.
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 03:39 PM
Apr 2013

I've gotten about 100 notices "begging" me to update my win 7 laptop with 8... No thanks.

DJ13

(23,671 posts)
15. I like W7 so far
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 03:45 PM
Apr 2013

Its taking a little getting use to (it has a different layout than 2000, but I'm getting there), but it runs fine.

I originally wanted W8, as I figured any new OS was going to require adapting to it, but Win 7 was less expensive (by about $50) because my old W2000 didnt qualify to buy the W8 update version, so I had to buy an OEM full version.

I'm glad I ended up on W7.

David Zephyr

(22,785 posts)
20. Windows 7 is amazing. And Windows 8 is better.
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 05:33 PM
Apr 2013

I have an iMac at home (have been with Apple since the 1980's at my home) and PC's at work.

I have NEVER had a problem with Windows 7 and, like you, RiverNood, it was the best OS ever.

Windows 8 is a dream. There's the annoyance of the start button not as easily accessible to oldsters like me as I'd like it, but Microsoft is resolving that little issue and in the meantime, if you haven't tried Windows 8, do. At least at a store. It's the dream for desktops.

 

ConcernedCanuk

(13,509 posts)
14. My brother, who built this laptop I'm typing on, advised "do not install updates"
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 03:41 PM
Apr 2013

.
.
.

Old saying,

"If it ain't broke, don't fix it"

So if your computer is operating OK,

I suggest that you do NOT install updates.

Running XP Pofessional SP3 right now with no problems,

woulda never got out of win95, Win98 or Win98SE except for the fact that the net wouldn't/couldn't handle them.

My first OS for the web was Win95,

my FIRST OS was Win3.1.

Old PS2 - an IBM that had the hardware right in the base of the monitor.

256k ram - UPGRADED it to 512k

HD was only 20 meg . .

yeah, I'm that old . .

CC






Xithras

(16,191 posts)
19. Bad, bad advice
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 05:26 PM
Apr 2013

The majority of updates address potential security flaws and newly found vulnerabilities. By failing to install the patches, you're making yourself far more vulnerable to viruses, spyware, and other exploits. While buggy patches do occasionally occur, most people would spend more time removing viruses caused by NOT patching, than they would removing the occasional bad patch.

The simple solutiion is this: For regular patches, just wait a week. If there's a bug, let someone else find it first.

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
22. Horrible advice
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 05:38 PM
Apr 2013

Most of the patches offered close security holes. The biggest effect this has other than closing those holes is it announces to the world those holes are there. Now every hacker/virusmaker/spyware creator in the world now knows a wide open flaw in the OS and can design malicious code specificaly to attack that vulnerability and all the people just like you just got much bigger targets on their backs.

It is certainly your prerogative to do what you chose with your machine but not patching is leaving yourself open to ever increasing threats.

El Supremo

(20,365 posts)
17. Well, that's the last time I update without waiting a week!
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 04:22 PM
Apr 2013

I had a strange message from Security Essentials, but otherwise everything is working.

Is this only a problem on 64 bit Windows 7?

Amonester

(11,541 posts)
26. I've had problems rebooting my older 7/32-bit laptop since last month
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 01:38 AM
Apr 2013

so, apparently, no.

I have to switch it off by pressing and holding the ON/OFF button down for 8 seconds, and then pressing it again to turn it on for a clean reboot.

It's annoying.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
18. ran my updates on Tuesday night, rebooted, no issues..
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 04:34 PM
Apr 2013

currently running Kaspersky as well.

on edit: I pushed updates to our test group last night, including my 64bit Win7 system. No issues thus far. running Trend Micro on our enterprise.

MurrayDelph

(5,293 posts)
25. THANKS for posting this!
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 12:01 AM
Apr 2013

I am travelling through Utah. Tonight I got to a motel where the Internet wasn't working for my Windows 7 laptop, but still worked on my WebOS tablet (which is where I read this post originally).

I uninstalled the update, rebooted, and can now use the laptop.

Yay!

dogknob

(2,431 posts)
27. Nothing wrong here... yet.
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 02:04 AM
Apr 2013

Switched to "download an notify," however. I avoided Win8 when I got this computer; I should have guessed that M$ would start "oops-ing" on Win7 updates.

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