Feinstein on gun bill: I'm not going to play dead

[Paul E Ester]

Source: CNN

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Demanding a vote on her amendment.

[davidpdx]

1. I'm skeptical it will happen

Without the filibuster reform there is no way it will make it to the floor. Feinstein and Boxer both refused to support it.

[onehandle]

2. I Want This Vote On Record. nt

[mucifer]

3. Remember she was very close to the assassination of Mayor Mascone and Harvey Milk

in SF. Her coworker was the assassin. He was another city supervisor. She announced the murders to the public:

[premium]

4. What I don't understand here is why she's going after rifles

when it was a .38 cal. revolver that killed those two? Why not go after handguns? They are responsible for 97% of all homicides committed.

[Paul E Ester]

6. It goes back to a shooting in SF known as the "101 california shooting"

The loser in that case used a gun called a tech-9 which was a low cost handgun with a huge magazine capacity.

From wikipedia:

101 California Street Shooting was a mass shooting that took place July 1, 1993, in San Francisco, California, claiming the lives of nine people, including the shooter, (Insert name of loser here). The killings sparked a number of legal and legislative actions that were precursors to the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act, H.R.3355, 103rd Congress (1994). The Act took effect in 1994, and expired on September 13, 2004, through the operation of a sunset provision.

The shootings spurred calls for tighter gun control and were followed by a number of legal and legislative actions.

California, at the state level, implemented some of the toughest gun laws in the United States.[7] The state also repealed a law that had given gun manufacturers immunity against lawsuits, following an attempt by some relatives of 101 California street victims to sue the companies that made the weapons Ferri used.

A number of organizations were formed in the wake of the shootings, including Legal Community Against Violence,[8] which acts as a resource for information on federal, state, and local firearms policies. The AJC founded the Jack Berman Advocacy Center[9] to lobby and organize with regard to gun control and violence reduction.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/101_California_Street_shooting

[premium]

7. Got it, thanks for the information.

[CreekDog]

9. she tried to ban handguns in San Francisco, so don't assume she is unaware

she is politically pragmatic on this issue and will try to fight effectively for what can be done.

[premium]

11. I remember that debacle.

The judge struck it down because CA has a pre-emption law where only the state can set firearms laws. Cities can make their firearms laws more lax but not more strict than state law.

[Kelvin Mace]

5. Pretty much empty rhetoric

absent filibuster reform.

[premium]

8. In this instance filibuster reform wouldn't have mattered,

she acknowledged yesterday that she didn't even have 40 votes to pass her AWB or the mag limit.

[CreekDog]

10. well, let me ask you, should she just be quiet?

"empty rhetoric" suggests that there is something insincere.

just because the odds are long does not make one insincere. you have posted in favor of things that have next to now chance of happening --i would not call those things "empty rhetoric".

do reconsider.

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12. I, myself, admire her tenacity.

Even in the face of certain defeat, she carries on.

[Kelvin Mace]

17. Feinstein had an opprtunity to make a difference

but she is one of the CorporateDems who opposed filibuster reform.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/11/21/1163781/-Diane-Feinstein-responds-on-filibuster-reform-She-still-needs-convincing

She had a tool in her hand to get this done, and she willingly gave it away.

[CreekDog]

18. i agree with that

but the effort now is not insincere.

DiFi has always been consistent on the gun issue and has is not putting forth measures she knows won't pass to get credit without taking heat --she's actually gotten measures signed into law in San Francisco and in the nation as a whole.

the idea that she's insincere about the gun law support is ridiclous and false.

[Kelvin Mace]

27. The sincerity is kind of irrelevant

She may be consistent on the gun issue, but her consistent accommodation of the GOP makes it pointless. A person who was truly dedicated to this issue would use every legal tool out her command accomplish real change. Instead, she is to busy being "bi-partisan", so people keep dying.

The other side uses every tool, legal or illegal, and does so with almost nary a whimper from DiFi and her ilk.

I am truly sorry she had to experience the slaughter she did, but it doesn't appear to have motivated her to fight. Her failure (and the rest of the Vichy Dem's collusion on this issue) means more slaughter of children is to come. The GOP takes their orders from the gun manufacturers, and Feinstein and Dems like her put up as much of a fight as toilet tissue does to water.

America has made it clear they want gun control.

The GOP has made clear we are not going to get it.

The Dems have made clear they are not going to fight for it.

[slackmaster]

13. She's obsessive on this issue. She's almost 80 years old. It's time for her to retire.

Hopefully before she starts doing real damage.

[Paul E Ester]

15. She's just working on her legacy.

I can't blame her. She looks great for her age. Time is against all of us...tick tick tick.

[slackmaster]

16. Having a shit ton of money and access to ultra-premium health care have been kind to her

That's for sure.

[CreekDog]

19. what's ultra premium health care?

she has federal employee health care benefits

do federal employees get ultra premium health care benefits?

[Paul E Ester]

22. Her husband is one of the richest men in the country.

I doubt she bothers with federal health insurance.

People of her financial station in life have private doctors and pay as they go.

[CreekDog]

23. slackmaster was suggesting she got it from her job as Senator

[Generation_Why]

21. How ageist of you. nt

[slackmaster]

24. I'm 55, my mom is 78, and she agrees with me.

People do lose cognitive ability and have increasing difficulty with memory as they age. It's natural. Few people at age 80 are able to function with the accuracy and efficiency that they had at 60.

[Generation_Why]

20. The Senate needs more Feinsteins. nt

[derby378]

25. 55 Senate Dems, and only 40 would support the ban

Folks, this is where the wave breaks and rolls back. Too many Democrats remember what the first ban did to our ranks in 1994.

Feinstein will fight on because that's what she does. But it's over.

[Llewlladdwr]

26. Let us hope so.

I believe this includes the "high capacity" magazine ban as well.