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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 10:39 PM Feb 2013

Dick Cheney Tells CBS: Obama Wants To Do Serious Damage To Military

Source: CBS NEWS

In an interview Tuesday on “CBS This Morning,” former Vice President Dick Cheney derides the nomination of former Sen. Chuck Hagel to be secretary of defense.

“With respect to Chuck Hagel and – and [John] Brennan, at Defense and CIA – just in the last week, their performance in front of the committees that have to confirm them has been pretty poor,” Cheney tells Charlie Rose. “And that’s, you know, not my judgment. That’s the judgment, as well, of senators on both sides of the aisle. My guess is, if you look at what the president’s motives are for picking Chuck Hagel, I think he wants a Republican to go be the foil, if you will, for what he wants to do to the Defense Department, which is I think to do serious, serious damage to our military capabilities.”

Link to CBS NEWS video clip...

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505263_162-57568787/cheney-hagel-brennan-gave-poor-performances-in-confirmation-hearings/

Read more: http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2013/02/dick-cheney-tells-cbs-obama-wants-to-do-serious-damage-to-military.html



Fuck CBS NEWS for giving the 'war criminal' a forum...
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Dick Cheney Tells CBS: Obama Wants To Do Serious Damage To Military (Original Post) Purveyor Feb 2013 OP
That's gratitude for you MotherPetrie Feb 2013 #1
This man is a walking advertisement Turbineguy Feb 2013 #50
This would-be man is projecting himself. Coyotl Feb 2013 #65
The thing is cheney isn't very popular . I don't think this interview will help him. mucifer Feb 2013 #2
Charlie Rose is a right wing 1% nut job too. xtraxritical Feb 2013 #35
I don't think so - I've watched many excellent interviews with Democrats karynnj Feb 2013 #60
Cheney is a Dubai citizen w/ his military contract business. War is good for business. Sunlei Feb 2013 #61
Link to video clip of Cheney and Rose... Purveyor Feb 2013 #3
Nobody damaged our military more than Cheney and his Boy Blunder. TwilightGardener Feb 2013 #4
Cheney, you got 5 military deferments and the closest you ever came to military action was shooting truthisfreedom Feb 2013 #5
That's about it, isn't it? MrMickeysMom Feb 2013 #6
When given the chance to comemorate the dead at Auschwitz during World War II aint_no_life_nowhere Feb 2013 #30
I'd forgotten that one. Unbelievable lack of respect (not to mention etiquette) MBS Feb 2013 #42
yup, that's it in a nutshell. MBS Feb 2013 #43
He's still the limpest Dick of all. NYtoBush-Drop Dead Feb 2013 #7
If anyone wants to do harm to the military its Cheney and those like him who cstanleytech Feb 2013 #8
War profiteering is cheney's life eom dotymed Feb 2013 #69
My feelings as well.... jaysunb Feb 2013 #9
Does anyone realize how stupid this man sounds? Is it dementia? nt kelliekat44 Feb 2013 #10
Or how pathetic CBS News is for giving him a forum? eom Purveyor Feb 2013 #11
Not dementia. Adsos Letter Feb 2013 #17
"Obama wants to do serious damage to military" ReRe Feb 2013 #12
Too bad Dick Cheney's completely irrelevant nt octoberlib Feb 2013 #13
Yeah...that is why they hauled him out to attempt to defeat Hagel and appear on the CBS Morning Purveyor Feb 2013 #14
Every time Dick Cheney opens his fat fucking mouth, he mocks the fact that he's not in prison. BlueStater Feb 2013 #15
Hey dick, dontcha know criticizing the President in a time of war is Amonester Feb 2013 #16
Correct answer! They_Live Feb 2013 #59
+ alot BootinUp Feb 2013 #63
Why should anyone take advice from this guy? Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2013 #18
So fighting two wars for a decade or more and repeated rotations Third Doctor Feb 2013 #19
The thing is obama2terms Feb 2013 #20
Much like Dick did serious damage to the U.S. lexw Feb 2013 #21
If you will, Cheney, just STFU! Jack Sprat Feb 2013 #22
Accuse others of what you did. emulatorloo Feb 2013 #23
Who cares? pscot Feb 2013 #24
Why is this evil corpse still walking around? Hekate Feb 2013 #25
Dead presidents on green paper. And the only damage he's worried about is his pals losing some. freshwest Feb 2013 #32
Yeah, who left the casket open again? snot Feb 2013 #37
Exactly ! When will Mr Potter tip over for good ? King_Klonopin Feb 2013 #40
maybe he Obama will try to destroy this nation, oh that was Cheney, nevermind olddad56 Feb 2013 #26
'We want our country back!!!' Sorry, no, you guys can't have it anymore, Darth... freshwest Feb 2013 #34
This ISN'T Your Parents' CBS triplepoint Feb 2013 #27
No, sadly, it's not. AngryOldDem Feb 2013 #45
The Dick Cheney-led US Military: 4,409 Killed in Action 31,928 Wounded KeepItReal Feb 2013 #28
Dick Cheney can blow me Glamrock Feb 2013 #29
Condolezza Works For CBS otohara Feb 2013 #31
Says the guy who gave us Rumsfeld? 6000eliot Feb 2013 #33
Cheney Makes Joseph McCarthy Look Like A Moderate DallasNE Feb 2013 #36
" " " " n/t MBS Feb 2013 #46
"Fuck CBS NEWS for giving the 'war criminal' a forum..." SoapBox Feb 2013 #38
Cheney SamKnause Feb 2013 #39
Damage to the military, Dick? Botany Feb 2013 #41
As opposed to him and Bush... AngryOldDem Feb 2013 #44
This isn't breaking news...eom Kolesar Feb 2013 #47
"From both sides of the aisle." When Dems attack their own... EastKYLiberal Feb 2013 #48
and two unpaid wars for oil SemperEadem Feb 2013 #49
As much "damage" that Obama and Hagel adieu Feb 2013 #51
Opinions are like Dogs and Rain Mcloud Feb 2013 #52
When he was Defense Secretary he called military spending cuts a peace dividend. Lasher Feb 2013 #53
RECORD SUICIDE ASSHOLE cbrer Feb 2013 #54
Chicken Hawk Cheney...at Defense made deep cuts... Historic NY Feb 2013 #55
A war criminal gives his opinion on what is wrong with Obama's national security Gman Feb 2013 #56
how blueknight Feb 2013 #57
"Do the orders still stand?" Ezlivin Feb 2013 #58
Eat dick cheese, Dick! You fascist murdering devil worshiper! AAO Feb 2013 #62
"...which is I think to do serious, serious damage to our military capabilities.” Dick Coyotl Feb 2013 #64
Why give Cheney any attention? gademocrat7 Feb 2013 #66
That filthy draft dodger has no shame Kingofalldems Feb 2013 #67
That's funny... a draft dodger criticizing a decorated war hero. Cheney = LOSER! judesedit Feb 2013 #68
Go fuck yourself, Dick! nt City Lights Feb 2013 #70
What about damage Cheney/Bush did to CIA, FBI, etc., etc. joanbarnes Feb 2013 #71
TRANSLATION: Obama Wants To Do Serious Damage rocktivity Feb 2013 #72
TOO LATE! Bohemianwriter Feb 2013 #73
 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
65. This would-be man is projecting himself.
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 10:21 AM
Feb 2013

The damage the Bush/Cheney military expenditures on illegal wars is one of the ongoing problems Obama has to contend with every time their is a need for a government expenditure, including the current military budget. Cheney IS the problem.

karynnj

(60,099 posts)
60. I don't think so - I've watched many excellent interviews with Democrats
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 09:39 AM
Feb 2013

I did not see the Cheney interview, but with Democrats, what I like is that he gives them the latitude to speak - making the interview about them and their opinions - not his. To me, this is far better than the talking heads that control the microphone and make their show about themselves no matter who is there.

I prefer NOT knowing where the interviewer stands.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
4. Nobody damaged our military more than Cheney and his Boy Blunder.
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 10:47 PM
Feb 2013

BTW, did not watch much of Brennan's, but Hagel's hearing wasn't anything close to a normal confirmation hearing--Carl Levin generously gave the Repubs 8 hours to take quotes out of context and scream "Do you still believe this YES OR NO!" and try to trip him up--and they did not succeed.

truthisfreedom

(23,350 posts)
5. Cheney, you got 5 military deferments and the closest you ever came to military action was shooting
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 10:51 PM
Feb 2013

your friend in the face while drunk hunting caged animals.

Your opinion is so completely irrelevant that I'm going to stop typing before I even get to the end of this

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
30. When given the chance to comemorate the dead at Auschwitz during World War II
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 12:53 AM
Feb 2013

and the invited dignitaries were in black formal attire, he was wearing ski boots and looked like he was attending a football tailgate party in a parking lot. The man has no respect.

MBS

(9,688 posts)
42. I'd forgotten that one. Unbelievable lack of respect (not to mention etiquette)
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:35 AM
Feb 2013

Even the way he's sitting is inappropriate for the occasion. You'd think that someone in the White House or the State Dept. would have prevented him from making such a grotesque faux-pas. (Oh, wait: it was THAT White House.. )

MBS

(9,688 posts)
43. yup, that's it in a nutshell.
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:40 AM
Feb 2013

Listening to an account of this on the news last night (which included a reminder about the "hunting" accident), I came back to my old thoughts about the Iraq war-- thoughts that apply to the entire 8 sorry years: that W and Cheney were not only completely wrong, and their wrong-headed policies so damaging: they were completely, astonishingly incompetent as well.

cstanleytech

(27,341 posts)
8. If anyone wants to do harm to the military its Cheney and those like him who
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 11:01 PM
Feb 2013

believe spending money like its water on defense is sustainable in the long term.

Adsos Letter

(19,459 posts)
17. Not dementia.
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 11:51 PM
Feb 2013

Bitterness. Resentment. More interested in hindering President Obama than in helping the nation.

OK...I guess it does take a demented soul to do that.

ReRe

(11,154 posts)
12. "Obama wants to do serious damage to military"
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 11:28 PM
Feb 2013

Oh, if it were so... Cheney knows there's nothing PO can do to damage the military. The military gives the President his marching orders, not the other way around. So why does Cheney come out and say something like that? Is it because he looks at Hagel and Brennan as turn coats? Is it because he is a legend in his own mind? And who gives a doo-doo what he says? The last popularity poll I remember on Cheney put him at something like 19%, wasn't it? I think CBS should reveal why they give him an audience. It's like giving an audience to the devil.

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
15. Every time Dick Cheney opens his fat fucking mouth, he mocks the fact that he's not in prison.
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 11:36 PM
Feb 2013

Thanks a hell of A LOT, Nancy Pelosi and Congressional Dems. And, yes, Obama deserves some blame for this, as well.

Amonester

(11,541 posts)
16. Hey dick, dontcha know criticizing the President in a time of war is
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 11:39 PM
Feb 2013
unpatriotic?

What a traitor to the United States u r.

Third Doctor

(1,574 posts)
19. So fighting two wars for a decade or more and repeated rotations
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 11:59 PM
Feb 2013

did not damage the military DICK. Sending them into harm's way over a lie and on top of that failed in supplying suffient troop levels isn't damaging the military right? I am right about this DICK? GAWWD I can't stand this man.

obama2terms

(563 posts)
20. The thing is
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 12:00 AM
Feb 2013

People will take what Cheney says with a grain of salt. I can't even find a republican these days that will defend this guy, his 15 minutes of fame have LONG been over.

lexw

(804 posts)
21. Much like Dick did serious damage to the U.S.
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 12:02 AM
Feb 2013

Go to hell you bastard! Who even listens to you anymore?! Die, and let that heart go to someone who will do the living some good.

 

Jack Sprat

(2,500 posts)
22. If you will, Cheney, just STFU!
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 12:16 AM
Feb 2013

Why is Cheney not in prison serving a life sentence for violation of international law?

Why has Cheney not been formally charged for murder of Iraqi civilians?

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
32. Dead presidents on green paper. And the only damage he's worried about is his pals losing some.
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 12:56 AM
Feb 2013

And the media are part of the MIC cabal.

King_Klonopin

(1,344 posts)
40. Exactly ! When will Mr Potter tip over for good ?
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 03:13 AM
Feb 2013

He also called John Kerry and Chuck Hagel "second-rate"
appointments. Dick Cheeney: asshole di tutti.

The DOD budget needs to be sliced by 25%.

 

triplepoint

(431 posts)
27. This ISN'T Your Parents' CBS
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 12:41 AM
Feb 2013

CBS just hired kinda sleezy lice. That speaks volumes as to how much BS CBS ("Complete BS&quot truly spews during its infotainment programs, and will continue to spew for some time to come.
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Andy Roony and Walter Cronkite-Your Parents' CBS
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kinda sleezy lice joins CBS to continue telling her infamous whoppers
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Oh and dick "shooter" cheney is just angry because that's his raison d'etre...and because he's irrelevant and is no longer our country's puppet master.


KeepItReal

(7,769 posts)
28. The Dick Cheney-led US Military: 4,409 Killed in Action 31,928 Wounded
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 12:45 AM
Feb 2013

in Iraq alone.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War#U.S._armed_forces

That's whole Divisions worth of troops taken out of service.

Who really broke our military?


 

otohara

(24,135 posts)
31. Condolezza Works For CBS
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 12:54 AM
Feb 2013

I quit watching when they announced her hire.
No doubt she is responsible for this interview.

DallasNE

(7,675 posts)
36. Cheney Makes Joseph McCarthy Look Like A Moderate
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 01:20 AM
Feb 2013

So this makes one wonder what CBS is up to with even inviting Cheney to speak. Cheney wore out the military in Iraq and Afghanistan and now he is suddenly an authority on military capability? Give me a break. Lock that war criminal up.

SamKnause

(13,995 posts)
39. Cheney
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 02:13 AM
Feb 2013

This man should be wearing a lovely orange prison jump suit, hand cuffs, shackles and placed in solitary confinement for life.

The think that the rare gift of a heart was wasted on this undeserving human being sickens me.

Botany

(73,154 posts)
41. Damage to the military, Dick?
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:27 AM
Feb 2013

Last edited Tue Feb 12, 2013, 08:21 AM - Edit history (1)

Please come visit my friend's son who will not live out the year because of
brain cancer ...... he served in Iraq and was around KBR "burn pits." He
is not the only one.

http://www.oxfordamerican.org/articles/2011/aug/24/smoke-signals/

Why isn't this man in jail?

AngryOldDem

(14,177 posts)
44. As opposed to him and Bush...
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:40 AM
Feb 2013

...fucking up countless kids in two pointless and needless wars.

Reprehensible piece of humanity. Why anybody gives this piece of shit airtime is beyond me.

 

EastKYLiberal

(429 posts)
48. "From both sides of the aisle." When Dems attack their own...
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 05:47 AM
Feb 2013

It gives people like Cheney talking points.

Go with the fucking flow.

SemperEadem

(8,053 posts)
49. and two unpaid wars for oil
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 06:07 AM
Feb 2013

and basically dumping those vets who now need help on the street to shift for themselves doesn't damage the military?

What about the thugs reducing funding for psychological help, since the suicide rate for returning vets is staggering? How about the thugs not making one mention of the military ONCE during their convention? The military is a prop to them and and afterthought.

Yeah, join the military, be used like a $5 whore, come home to a bunch of yellow ribbon stickers on cars driven by people who don't want their taxes raised to pay for government employees, which a soldier in our military is and if you can't make a smooth transition back into a society that is pithily blind to what you've endured and seen, the only alternative those same sticker driving boobs have for you is that they're ok if you kill yourself, as long as their taxes aren't being raised.

That is far, far more destructive to the military than what Obama is doing.

 

adieu

(1,009 posts)
51. As much "damage" that Obama and Hagel
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 06:37 AM
Feb 2013

could do to the military, I don't think it's enough.

What's needed is for the military to run on a budget of $220 billion/year. In order for that to happen, it has to shed 66% of its current expenditures, more or less. Kill all future military appropriations, close all foreign bases, close many bases in the country. Force more flag officers to retire, with a special clause that they cannot serve or work with any entity associated with the MIC (or threaten a loss of pension or something like that).

Trim, trim, trim. If there is ever a place for austerity, it would be in the military.

The cost of maintaining a military has brought down all great nations at one point or another. The nations of today realize that a bare-bones military will make the country far more stable.

 

Rain Mcloud

(812 posts)
52. Opinions are like Dogs and
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 06:38 AM
Feb 2013

@ssholes,everybody has one.
This includes me and The Dick.
Dick wants his friends to be rich.
I want my friends to be safe.
If The Dick has his way,my friends will be neither rich nor safe and his friends will have more of both.
It is a tale of two America's,each occupying the same physical space and the same time coordinates.
It is a fundamental law of physics,no two bodies of matter can occupy the same area of space at the same time.
The larger displaces the smaller.
Or to put it bluntly:Go Fuck Yourself,Mr.Cheney!

Lasher

(28,592 posts)
53. When he was Defense Secretary he called military spending cuts a peace dividend.
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 07:41 AM
Feb 2013

Now it's serious damage to the military.

Historic NY

(38,423 posts)
55. Chicken Hawk Cheney...at Defense made deep cuts...
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 08:47 AM
Feb 2013

and later claimed it was the Democrats fault...

Over Cheney's four years as secretary of defense, encompassing budgets for fiscal years 1990-93, DoD's total obligational authority in current dollars declined from $291.3 billion to $269.9 billion. Except for FY 1991, when the TOA budget increased by 1.7 percent, the Cheney budgets showed negative real growth: -2.9 percent in 1990, -9.8 percent in 1992, and -8.1 percent in 1993. During this same period total military personnel declined by 19.4 percent, from 2.202 million in FY 1989 to 1.776 million in FY 1993. The Army took the largest cut, from 770,000 to 572,000-25.8 percent of its strength. The Air Force declined by 22.3 percent, the Navy by 14 percent, and the Marines by 9.7 percent.

http://www.defense.gov/specials/secdef_histories/bios/cheney.htm



http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2009/04/as-pentagon-chi/

Ezlivin

(8,153 posts)
58. "Do the orders still stand?"
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 09:08 AM
Feb 2013
"During the time that the airplane was coming in to the Pentagon, there was a young man who would come in and say to the Vice President, "The plane is 50 miles out." "The plane is 30 miles out." And when it got down to "the plane is 10 miles out," the young man also said to the Vice President, "Do the orders still stand?" [b style="color:red;"]And the Vice President turned and whipped his neck around and said, "Of course the orders still stand. Have you heard anything to the contrary?"


Testimony on May 23, 2003, 9/11 Commission, Secretary Mineta.
 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
64. "...which is I think to do serious, serious damage to our military capabilities.” Dick
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 10:18 AM
Feb 2013

Not just serious damage, serious, serious damage

Rhetorical overthrust there Dick!

 

Bohemianwriter

(978 posts)
73. TOO LATE!
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 12:21 PM
Feb 2013

You "sir", have done enough damage singlehandedly in a generation!

How goes the shooting for you lately by the way??

Shot any good friends in the face lately?

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