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hue

(4,949 posts)
Sat Jan 26, 2013, 11:39 AM Jan 2013

Hackers take over sentencing commission website

Source: seattlepi

WASHINGTON (AP) — The hacker-activist group Anonymous says it hijacked the website of the U.S. Sentencing Commission to avenge the death of Aaron Swartz, an Internet activist who committed suicide.

The website of the commission, an independent agency of the judicial branch, was taken over early Saturday and replaced with a message warning that when Swartz killed himself two weeks ago "a line was crossed."

The hackers say they've infiltrated several government computer systems and copied secret information that they now threaten to make public.




Read more: Link http://www.seattlepi.com/business/technology/article/Hackers-take-over-sentencing-commission-website-4225428.phpto source

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Hackers take over sentencing commission website (Original Post) hue Jan 2013 OP
Full story has nice Anonyjacking screenshot johnfunk Jan 2013 #1
Anonymous has seized US Dept Justice files too. More information - lots more: Melinda Jan 2013 #2
WOW! Just WOW! 1monster Jan 2013 #3
My impression is... reACTIONary Jan 2013 #8
Which is more than my impression of little over half the SCOTUS Lordquinton Jan 2013 #11
Then it must be really embarrassing to get bushwhacked by them so often. Ash_F Jan 2013 #12
The best technical professionals of the next ruling generation? reACTIONary Jan 2013 #13
You are just making the US government sound even more incompetent. Ash_F Jan 2013 #18
"The Government" is a rather large and diverse conglomeration... reACTIONary Jan 2013 #27
I don't see how draconian punishments make our lives better Ash_F Jan 2013 #33
I not aware of any draconian punishments... reACTIONary Jan 2013 #34
"careless and sloppy server administration using old, well-worn exploits" bemildred Jan 2013 #20
And what does this have to do with department of justice sentencing guidelines... reACTIONary Jan 2013 #25
Indeed, and why is there air? Whose idea was that, anyway? nt bemildred Jan 2013 #32
Breaking and entering and theft... reACTIONary Jan 2013 #35
Yeah yeah, I got it, you don't get it. You think words are way the heck more important than people bemildred Jan 2013 #36
I think I've got it... reACTIONary Jan 2013 #37
If THEY do not care enough to hire competent security people, why should I? bemildred Jan 2013 #38
Sure. And if you don't hire a body guard with a gun... reACTIONary Jan 2013 #39
Why indeed? What business is that of yours? I quite agree. nt bemildred Jan 2013 #40
Allow me to recommend to you... reACTIONary Jan 2013 #42
Capitalism, in other words. We already have that. nt bemildred Jan 2013 #44
I thought you "got it"... reACTIONary Jan 2013 #48
Massive security hole lets hackers control millions of cameras, printers and routers bemildred Jan 2013 #41
We need some goverment regs to stop this sort of thing... reACTIONary Jan 2013 #43
Ah, I see they're already downplaying the numbers Occulus Jan 2013 #45
No, this is more than that. bemildred Jan 2013 #21
They just buried a comrade. MelungeonWoman Jan 2013 #23
I looked at the video they posted on the hijacked web site... reACTIONary Jan 2013 #28
I guess it bears repeating: Anonymous will fuck your shit up. MindPilot Jan 2013 #4
Love Anonymous! 20score Jan 2013 #5
Hackers take over sentencing commission website bir Jan 2013 #6
If you want to fuck with a Tiger, make sure you're not in it's cage. BlueJazz Jan 2013 #7
My guess is that one of the administrators... reACTIONary Jan 2013 #14
I have doubts that this is effective. FreeBC Jan 2013 #9
Nothing is being done right now christx30 Jan 2013 #10
Yep..trying to change things "through the system" is totally ignorant of how... BlueJazz Jan 2013 #16
Exactly. It's just vandalism. With a healthy dose of self-aggrandizement. (NT) reACTIONary Jan 2013 #15
You seem to be invested in their actions, and are trying hard to degrade them. 20score Jan 2013 #17
This is a discussion board... reACTIONary Jan 2013 #30
Well, when your opinion is very obviously slanted against any form of expertise, Occulus Jan 2013 #46
Never heard of HBGary, so I looked them up... reACTIONary Jan 2013 #47
Jealousy? Revenge? Greed? (i.e., the usual reasons) Nihil Jan 2013 #31
Working very very hard to downplay Anon aren't you :) Katashi_itto Jan 2013 #19
This is a discussion board... reACTIONary Jan 2013 #29
The government will hunt them down if it can, and try to ignore them if it can't. bemildred Jan 2013 #22
they will be harping any minute on how venerable we all are to web 2pooped2pop Jan 2013 #26
There was a report yesterday that the website was back up, but Anonymous hacked it again Fire Walk With Me Jan 2013 #24

johnfunk

(6,113 posts)
1. Full story has nice Anonyjacking screenshot
Sat Jan 26, 2013, 12:11 PM
Jan 2013

Good on Anonymous. It was the height of cruelty to threaten Swartz with a longer and more draconian sentence than murderers, rapists, or banksters.

Melinda

(5,465 posts)
2. Anonymous has seized US Dept Justice files too. More information - lots more:
Sat Jan 26, 2013, 12:40 PM
Jan 2013

Anonymous took control of the U.S. Sentencing Commission website in the early morning hours of January 25... they then seized govt files and encrypted them for distribution around the world. They are calling the first set of files a "warhead" in a campaign they're calling "Operation Last Resort." Oh, and they purportedly have a set of files on every justice sitting on SCOTUS.

There were 2 attacks; the site was down by by 3:00 am pacific time and remains down at this time. It's been dropped from the DNS, and IP address (66.153.19.162) still returns the defaced contents.

So Anonymous has issued an ultimatum to the US govt, and if the demands are not met: "Warhead - U S - D O J - L E A - 2013 . A E E 256 is primed and armed. It has been quietly distributed to numerous mirrors over the last few days and is available for download from this website now. We encourage all Anonymous to syndicate this file as widely as possible." link to full statement.

Pertinent part from link above: "With Aaron's death we can wait no longer. The time has come to show the United States Department of Justice and its affiliates the true meaning of infiltration. The time has come to give this system a taste of its own medicine. The time has come for them to feel the helplessness and fear that comes with being forced into a game where the odds are stacked against them."

Full video:



They're pissed about Aaron Swartz death, and they are NOT playing.

1monster

(11,012 posts)
3. WOW! Just WOW!
Sat Jan 26, 2013, 01:22 PM
Jan 2013

Dare we hope that we have a watch dog over our government and that the watch dog is more powerful AND incorruptable?

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
12. Then it must be really embarrassing to get bushwhacked by them so often.
Sun Jan 27, 2013, 05:28 AM
Jan 2013

Do kids still say bushwhacked? Did they ever?

But I don't think 'powerful' is the right descriptor. Neither is "marginally competent" though. They are likely among the best technical professionals of the next ruling generation.

reACTIONary

(5,770 posts)
13. The best technical professionals of the next ruling generation?
Sun Jan 27, 2013, 01:45 PM
Jan 2013

Hardly. They rely on careless and sloppy server administration using old, well-worn exploits that that could be prevented simply by keeping the software up to date and changing the passwords. With the large number of public service web sites out there it just takes a little time to find one in the area of interest that is vulnerable.

Its pretty pitiful all the attention they get for such lame and insignificant vandalism. It's like getting front-page coverage for spray painting graffiti on the sidewalk.

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
18. You are just making the US government sound even more incompetent.
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 07:29 AM
Jan 2013

Supposedly these young folks will be replacing the sloppy admins they defeated over and over.

Who then are the competent ones out there, in your view? They don't work for the government. They don't work for the banks. They don't even seem to work for the internet security firms. Anonymous has hit them all and aired all their dirty laundry.

reACTIONary

(5,770 posts)
27. "The Government" is a rather large and diverse conglomeration...
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 11:04 PM
Jan 2013

...of many, many units, departments, offices, etc., etc. Most of them do what they are focused on (say sentencing guidelines) well, but are not necessarily up to snuff in all areas (say, running a web site). They rely on subcontractors, and, sometimes just the people in the office who have other more important responsibilities. It isn't surprising that mistakes are made.

Right now, somewhere there is a government security guard taking a nap when he should be vigilant. However, that guard isn't guarding the entrance to the NSA. Experience, competency and vigilance vary widely and depend on the needs, focus and resources of the specific branch organization. "The government" isn't incompetent just because of one or a few incidents.

My organization has been subject to several state-sponsored attacks over the course of the last several years. Our security team is world-class and fights back tooth and nail. State-sponsored attacks like this are way, way, way beyond the capabilities of the anonymous script kiddies. There is absolutely no comparison between this incident and the real war that is being waged. The script kiddies would get nowhere at our site.

Speaking of state-sponsored attacks, the recent distributed denial of service attacks on several American banks, while not very innovative and mostly just annoying, were state-sponsored, not anonymous script kiddies.

This is a high stakes game, but it is also extremely costly. Its worth it in some cases, but it is way beyond the capabilities and resources of the typical government office that is just trying to do a public service by getting some information out to the public in a timely, cost effective way. And isn't very much subject to threats anyway.

I think you should cut them some slack and be more appreciative of their efforts to make our lives a bit better.

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
33. I don't see how draconian punishments make our lives better
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 01:58 PM
Jan 2013

Also:

"My organization has been subject to several state-sponsored attacks over the course of the last several years. Our security team is world-class and fights back tooth and nail. State-sponsored attacks like this are way, way, way beyond the capabilities of the anonymous script kiddies. There is absolutely no comparison between this incident and the real war that is being waged. The script kiddies would get nowhere at our site. "

haha, I see you are one of those elite keyboard ninjas, fighting secret wars to save humanity and all that. I will back off now.

reACTIONary

(5,770 posts)
34. I not aware of any draconian punishments...
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 10:17 PM
Jan 2013

...with respect to Anon. And I think that police and prosecutors that are trying to break conspiracies need a credible and significant threat to be able to take down a criminal organization.

FYI I'm not actively involved in computer security, I am just inordinately affected by it and so a bit more aware about what is going on. When an incident occurs, those on the "front line" give us enough information to help us help them and to motivate vigilance and care. So I get a bit more information than the general public and it has a bit more personal significance.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
20. "careless and sloppy server administration using old, well-worn exploits"
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 08:39 AM
Jan 2013

And that is our government, thinking itself well able to decide what WE ought to do, well able to tell the whole world what to do. A little humility is required, now and then.

reACTIONary

(5,770 posts)
25. And what does this have to do with department of justice sentencing guidelines...
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 10:22 PM
Jan 2013

...or the arrest and prosecution of someone who was caught breaking, entering and stealing... or a group of self aggrandizing juvenile delinquents who have pulled a largely meaningless and insignificant stunt?

reACTIONary

(5,770 posts)
35. Breaking and entering and theft...
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 10:31 PM
Jan 2013

... is not something that is left up to the individual to be "able to decide what WE ought to do". Prohibiting it is not an infringement on individual liberty. Nor is it in any way "telling the whole world what to do".

And competency in understanding, defining and enforcing justice has nothing to do with competency in setting up a secure web site for information sharing.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
36. Yeah yeah, I got it, you don't get it. You think words are way the heck more important than people
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 09:40 AM
Jan 2013

You think property is what matters. I don't. I think people matter. Fuck property.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
38. If THEY do not care enough to hire competent security people, why should I?
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 08:16 PM
Jan 2013

Why do you, for that matter? Are you a fan of incompetent web security?

reACTIONary

(5,770 posts)
39. Sure. And if you don't hire a body guard with a gun...
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 08:28 PM
Jan 2013

... to protect you whenever you step out of the house, why should I care if you are shot, robbed, and left for dead? What business is it of mine?

reACTIONary

(5,770 posts)
42. Allow me to recommend to you...
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 09:03 PM
Jan 2013

... the firm that handles my security: Solitary, Poor, Nasty, Brutish and Short.

reACTIONary

(5,770 posts)
48. I thought you "got it"...
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 09:21 PM
Jan 2013

I don't want to be presumptuous, but your response leads me to believe that you don't have a clue.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
41. Massive security hole lets hackers control millions of cameras, printers and routers
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 08:41 PM
Jan 2013

A newly discovered exploit in a technology standard known as “universal plug and play” (UPnP) is big enough that hackers on the Internet could remotely access and control “millions” of compatible devices like cameras, printers and routers, security researchers said Tuesday.

Researchers working for the security firm Rapid7 said they found bugs in the UPnP standard that exposes personal devices to being remotely accessed and controlled. That means an enterprising hacker could, say, exploit the bug to print unwanted messages on a personal printer, or turn on a webcam unbeknownst to the owner.

A hole this large has likely already been exploited on a selective, individual basis, researchers warned, noting that something like 40 to 50 million network devices make use of UPnP.

Rapid7?s announcement was confirmed Tuesday night by the United States Computer Emergency Readiness Team (US-CERT), which warned that “hundreds of vendors” that supply network-enabled hardware rely upon UPnP, including major firms like Cisco’s Linksys, D-Link, Belkin and Netgear. The agency recommended those manufacturers begin immediately updating their software to close the vulnerability — a process which could take months.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014385672

This is the kind of crap that we get when people get fat, dumb, and happy on the web, botnets, spam, and infections.

Occulus

(20,599 posts)
45. Ah, I see they're already downplaying the numbers
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 12:45 PM
Jan 2013

I was wondering how long that would take.

Less than 24 hours.

I heard about this yesterday, live, on Security Now with Leo Laporte and Steve Gibson.

The actual numbers are around 81 million devices using vulnerable hardware, manufactured by 1500 vendors.

The only answer at this time is to disable UPnP completely, both on the routers in question and in the OS if the OS has it turned on. Please note that this issue is OS-independent; Windows, *nix, and MacOS are all vulnerable.

Let me say it more clearly for the Apple fanboys: you are just as vulnerable to this issue as any Windows user.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
21. No, this is more than that.
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 08:46 AM
Jan 2013

Not necessarily the top end technically, but "some assembly required".

Having worked in defense back in the 90s, I'm surprised this doesn't happen more, esp. given the government's fondness for Microsoft software. I suppose part of the reason is lack of motivation, who wants to break into Justice Dept. computers? But also they are cheap about technical help, won't pay what you can get elsewhere, and the emphasis is on empire building, not excellence in execution.

MelungeonWoman

(502 posts)
23. They just buried a comrade.
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 10:31 AM
Jan 2013

They understand the gravity of the actions they are taking. It will be interesting to see if the forces they combat are as dismissive of their talents as you are.

reACTIONary

(5,770 posts)
28. I looked at the video they posted on the hijacked web site...
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 11:11 PM
Jan 2013

...I laughed out loud. It's a bunch of self-aggrandizing hyperbolic rubbish. I'm totally amazed anyone would take it seriously. Totally lacking in gravitas.

That's not "combat". That's spray paint.

20score

(4,769 posts)
5. Love Anonymous!
Sat Jan 26, 2013, 01:59 PM
Jan 2013

If only people in positions of power did the right thing, they would be unnecessary. Until then....

bir

(2 posts)
6. Hackers take over sentencing commission website
Sat Jan 26, 2013, 02:06 PM
Jan 2013

When I win the Lottery, I am SO going to Support Anonymous, Its about time We the People take back our Government

 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
7. If you want to fuck with a Tiger, make sure you're not in it's cage.
Sat Jan 26, 2013, 02:32 PM
Jan 2013

I know assembly Language and a few other languages and feel I'm fairly decent ...and not nearly as good as my friends..when it comes to breaking things up.
But these Guys/Gals are WAY, WAY beyond that.

I'd hate to have them with their sights set on me.

 

FreeBC

(403 posts)
9. I have doubts that this is effective.
Sat Jan 26, 2013, 05:38 PM
Jan 2013

I agree that there is a pattern of prosecutor misconduct across all levels of government that goes unaddressed, but I don't think that hacking this website and issuing threats improves the situation. I think this sort of action is considered to be vandalism by most people and I don't think vandalism is a very effective way to win people to your point of view.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
10. Nothing is being done right now
Sat Jan 26, 2013, 05:54 PM
Jan 2013

to stop the misconduct. They threaten you with 10-20 years to get you to accept the breadcrumbs to have some kind of a life. If I was in their crosshairs I would probably kill myself, innocent or not. Truth and innocense do not matter at all. Prosecutors do not care about the law at all. They want to make a name for themselves and they want to control people. Anything that can be done to hurt them is more than welcome.

 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
16. Yep..trying to change things "through the system" is totally ignorant of how...
Sun Jan 27, 2013, 03:37 PM
Jan 2013

..crooked the system has become.
As far as Prosecutors...most of them act like the most ruthless individuals on earth.

20score

(4,769 posts)
17. You seem to be invested in their actions, and are trying hard to degrade them.
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 12:15 AM
Jan 2013

Any particular reason?

Occulus

(20,599 posts)
46. Well, when your opinion is very obviously slanted against any form of expertise,
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 12:49 PM
Jan 2013

despite demonstration of such on more than one occasion, well....

Let's just say it sounds very much as if your discrediting of their abilities sounds as if it's to a purpose.

Frankly, what's coming from you on this thread sounds very much like "damage control" of the HBGary kind.

reACTIONary

(5,770 posts)
47. Never heard of HBGary, so I looked them up...
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 09:15 PM
Jan 2013

... found this:

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/03/the-hbgary-saga-nears-its-end/

"Jim Butterworth told us that there was a "very good chance" that the perpetrators of the hack would be caught. And so it has come to pass....

...this week [the FBI] brought down their quarry with a string of indictments and the possibility of lengthy jail terms. With the arrests, the HBGary Federal hack saga is largely concluded...

... everyone in LulzSec except one member, avunit, had been identified, and every identified member except pwnsauce had been arrested."


A really smart crew*. Their lives are definitely on hold right now. Hopefully not ruined in the long term.

(*Some kids, some young adults.)

 

Nihil

(13,508 posts)
31. Jealousy? Revenge? Greed? (i.e., the usual reasons)
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 09:29 AM
Jan 2013

Maybe they are an ex-admin who got fired because someone found that his password
was still set to the default ...?


bemildred

(90,061 posts)
22. The government will hunt them down if it can, and try to ignore them if it can't.
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 08:50 AM
Jan 2013

Which fact one can easily see. Watch for the first official spokesperson who chooses to address these activites directly. (It will be some sort of denial, but it wlll also be a "tell", because I can guarantee you they don't want to spread the idea around.)

 

2pooped2pop

(5,420 posts)
26. they will be harping any minute on how venerable we all are to web
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 10:40 PM
Jan 2013

hacking if we don't let them have total control of it to hunt down the bad, terrible, foreign, men, who are going to destroy our entire country by web sabotage. This will be the line of reason they use, but it is really to stop anyone like Anonymous from getting THEIR info.

 

Fire Walk With Me

(38,893 posts)
24. There was a report yesterday that the website was back up, but Anonymous hacked it again
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 01:57 PM
Jan 2013

and turned it into the vintage Asteroids game.

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