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highplainsdem

(48,968 posts)
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 06:20 PM Jan 2013

State Suspends Handgun Carry Permit Of Tactical Response CEO

Source: TPM

The state of Tennessee has suspended the concealed handgun carry permit of James Yeager, CEO of Tactical Response, who recently said he would "start killing people" should President Obama take executive action on gun control.

State officials explained they revoked the permit because of Yeager's "material likelihood of risk of harm to the public," according to a local TV station. Tactical Response is a Tennessee-based company that specializes in firearms and tactical training.

"The number one priority for our department is to ensure the public's safety," wrote Commissioner Bill Gibbons. "Mr. Yeager's comments were irresponsible, dangerous, and deserved our immediate attention. Due to our concern, as well as that of law enforcement, his handgun permit was suspended immediately. We have notified Mr. Yeager about the suspension today via e-mail. He will receive an official notification of his suspension through the mail."

Yeager released a second video Thursday in which he refused to back down from most his statements.

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State Suspends Handgun Carry Permit Of Tactical Response CEO (Original Post) highplainsdem Jan 2013 OP
If I were a governor, I'd create a task force to monitor social networks for similar threats... Comrade_McKenzie Jan 2013 #1
I'm sure they are ... Wernothelpless Jan 2013 #13
Well they castrated him I guess. upaloopa Jan 2013 #2
Thank God! His army will have to manage with a toothless tiger. Laurian Jan 2013 #3
Wow, just wow. This guy probably needs to be arrested. At least monitored. johnnyrocket Jan 2013 #4
Definitely he should be arrested Luft Jan 2013 #79
Oh hell yes ! Trajan Jan 2013 #5
Is that going to stop him? marions ghost Jan 2013 #6
What do you mean? Kolesar Jan 2013 #7
What do I mean? marions ghost Jan 2013 #18
since he has been all over the interwebs, when he is caught with a concealed handgun, big trouble pasto76 Jan 2013 #31
As I understand it he can still carry unconcealed handguns? marions ghost Jan 2013 #36
Permit required for open carry in Tennessee Tempest Jan 2013 #51
The OP said Concealed Carry marions ghost Jan 2013 #55
One permit for both is my reading of the law. n/t Tempest Jan 2013 #56
Right or Privilege? Luft Jan 2013 #81
It might slow him down. He knows he lucky he wasn't arrested by DHS. He knows he's being monitored. ancianita Jan 2013 #9
He still has the guns, doesn't he? Just not the Concealed Carry permit. SharonAnn Jan 2013 #10
This means Yeager gets pulled over in his vehicle every time he leaves his house ... Wernothelpless Jan 2013 #16
Revoking the CCW didn't affect his gun ownership. And he may still be able to transport firearms DeschutesRiver Jan 2013 #21
You are correct on open carry in TN. I just read the law. Tempest Jan 2013 #52
Thx for the confirmation; dialup wretched here tonight; impossible to research anything. nt DeschutesRiver Jan 2013 #68
You know he still has his guns. Grantuspeace Jan 2013 #25
Correct. He should have his guns confiscated before his promised killing spree instead of after it. PSPS Jan 2013 #40
+1 Tempest Jan 2013 #53
Seriously damnedifIknow Jan 2013 #8
And anyone who is associated with him. I don't know Laurian Jan 2013 #12
Confiscate his guns immediately Kingofalldems Jan 2013 #11
Oh, the irony LeftInTX Jan 2013 #14
I'll bet you $10,000 he blames Obama. n/t Tempest Jan 2013 #54
Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #15
You think this unhinged freak should be allowed to carry concealed weapons? Laurian Jan 2013 #20
I said "Agree" which you overlooked. nt jody Jan 2013 #22
I did see your agreement, but was puzzled by the rest of your comment. n/t Laurian Jan 2013 #26
RKBA is just one of our civil rights and I suggested denying all of them. nt jody Jan 2013 #28
If you think his permit should not have been revoked, why Laurian Jan 2013 #39
See #15. Do you know what "Agree" means? nt jody Jan 2013 #42
In the language of Petulance, 'Agree' means... LanternWaste Jan 2013 #59
In this, instance I think you have misunderstood something. graegoyle Jan 2013 #65
Do you think we were all born yesterday? YOU. ARE. DEFENDING. JAMES. YEAGER. 2ndAmForComputers Jan 2013 #70
I'm hoping his statement was misunderstood. Luft Jan 2013 #82
That cannot be done. Looks like sarcasm. Kingofalldems Jan 2013 #27
Good question. I don't know of any legal way to deny just one of a person's civil rights. Do you? nt jody Jan 2013 #30
You brought it up. Kingofalldems Jan 2013 #33
Then remove all his civil rights? nt jody Jan 2013 #34
You presented this ridiculous dichotomy Trajan Jan 2013 #45
Trajan you really are good for laughs. RKBA is a civil right. If it's removed then a logical jody Jan 2013 #46
Oh .... I understood completely .... Trajan Jan 2013 #49
Pretzel logic... 2naSalit Jan 2013 #62
Really? tabasco Jan 2013 #38
Due process Luft Jan 2013 #83
Are you're saying you believe concealed carry is a civil right under the second amendment? Lone_Star_Dem Jan 2013 #47
RKBA is a civil right. That's all I said. nt jody Jan 2013 #48
No, you also said to remove all his other civil rights. Lone_Star_Dem Jan 2013 #57
herp derp? frylock Jan 2013 #61
With anchovies and extra cheese :) Electric Monk Jan 2013 #74
wow. that fools been here longer than me.. frylock Jan 2013 #75
With rights come responsibilities 2naSalit Jan 2013 #63
Agree but why not remove all his civil rights. nt jody Jan 2013 #64
Hi there. 2ndAmForComputers Jan 2013 #66
Perhaps it's because that's the one he seems to not 2naSalit Jan 2013 #67
Because that would require putting him to death Luft Jan 2013 #84
Jody has been removed from DU. hrmjustin Jan 2013 #85
Now they can pick him up in two weeks for an unlicensed concealed weapon... jobycom Jan 2013 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author Laurian Jan 2013 #19
Highly appropriate. As will be the follow up visit from ATF to determine the legality of his arsenal marble falls Jan 2013 #23
i'd like to see a local news show visit him and ask him for comment Enrique Jan 2013 #24
kicked Kaleva Jan 2013 #29
Fortunately, he decided to advertise his intentions. He's a hazard. One would hope RKP5637 Jan 2013 #32
"under surveillance" Don't worry, Poindexter's Total Information Awareness office didn't go jody Jan 2013 #37
grave dance.. frylock Jan 2013 #76
Tennesse is rather red PatrynXX Jan 2013 #35
kick samsingh Jan 2013 #41
In Tennesse? Call your police, demand they boycott Tactical Response Dems to Win Jan 2013 #43
Good post. freshwest Jan 2013 #78
It's right there in the words... CJCRANE Jan 2013 #80
Maybe we'll get lucky and Yeager Ilsa Jan 2013 #44
Words have consequences. Especially excessively violent ones like this guy spouted. n/t Tempest Jan 2013 #50
Good...this guy is unhinged. SoapBox Jan 2013 #58
But I'm sure he's not alone. Fox News spews the seeds of instability on millions every day. Kablooie Jan 2013 #72
CUCKOO...!!!!!!!!! DumbBassRepublicans Jan 2013 #60
Hopefully he'll have some kind of breakdown now. Zoeisright Jan 2013 #69
Thank Fox News and the radio right. They convinced this idiot that Obama is Dr. Evil. Kablooie Jan 2013 #71
Can you imagine being this guy's neighbor? thucythucy Jan 2013 #73
Ha Ha! onehandle Jan 2013 #77
Honestly, they need to take this a step further... Earth_First Jan 2013 #86
 

Comrade_McKenzie

(2,526 posts)
1. If I were a governor, I'd create a task force to monitor social networks for similar threats...
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 06:22 PM
Jan 2013

And start suspending like crazy.

Wernothelpless

(410 posts)
13. I'm sure they are ...
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 06:34 PM
Jan 2013

Have you been over to the Tea Party page on FB? ... there MUST be someone monitoring those lunatics ... they are OUT there ...

Luft

(5 posts)
79. Definitely he should be arrested
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 08:27 PM
Jan 2013

The man threatened to start killing people. I don't see why he isn't already in jail. If he doesn't get arrested and he does kill someone there will be hell to pay.

 

Trajan

(19,089 posts)
5. Oh hell yes !
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 06:26 PM
Jan 2013

Time for a little trip to the woodshed, asshole ...

He should learn that he cannot violate the law by threatening his fellow citizens with homicidal violence ...

This nutcase is exposed ... Good!

pasto76

(1,589 posts)
31. since he has been all over the interwebs, when he is caught with a concealed handgun, big trouble
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 07:04 PM
Jan 2013

firearm law violations will end his stupid company

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
36. As I understand it he can still carry unconcealed handguns?
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 07:15 PM
Jan 2013

AND any other guns?

Weak, weak -- response to obvious open threats to kill. But the thing that's most disturbing is that this video INCITES others who are even more unstable...probably his intention.

Hard to believe this is all they can do to him. These gun nuts really do rule America.



Tempest

(14,591 posts)
51. Permit required for open carry in Tennessee
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 07:53 PM
Jan 2013

His permit was revoked.

He carries one in public in the open, he goes to jail.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
55. The OP said Concealed Carry
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 08:09 PM
Jan 2013

was revoked. So this applies to open carry as well? Well...really the point could be moot if he (or some admirer acting on his behalf) wants to commit Murder Without Permit.

Luft

(5 posts)
81. Right or Privilege?
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 08:43 PM
Jan 2013

If something is a right how can it require a permit? Doesn't having the government, State or Federal, tell the people "you can do this if we give you permission" reduce a right to a privilege? Has this law been challenged in the U. S. Supreme Court?

That being said this nut job seriously threated to kill people. He should be arrested and all of his guns confiscated.

ancianita

(36,023 posts)
9. It might slow him down. He knows he lucky he wasn't arrested by DHS. He knows he's being monitored.
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 06:32 PM
Jan 2013

Good enough for now.

Wernothelpless

(410 posts)
16. This means Yeager gets pulled over in his vehicle every time he leaves his house ...
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 06:38 PM
Jan 2013

The governor and local police in Tennessee are NOT going to allow this fool to drive ONE block with a weapon in his car and now that he's lost his permit the ONLY thing he can carry is a deer rifle mounted in the back window of his truck ... just like Grandaddy ... he won't last a week before they have to apprehend him .... this guy is a 72 hour hold away from a mental hospital ... boing! ...

DeschutesRiver

(2,354 posts)
21. Revoking the CCW didn't affect his gun ownership. And he may still be able to transport firearms
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 06:52 PM
Jan 2013

so long as they are unloaded and in a case, which is common in many states.

But I haven't seen the TN statute on this to know for certain.

I think that he is also restricted from carrying in the open if his handgun permit has been revoked.

Tempest

(14,591 posts)
52. You are correct on open carry in TN. I just read the law.
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 07:55 PM
Jan 2013

The one permit covers both and since it was revoked, he would be in violation of the law.

Grantuspeace

(873 posts)
25. You know he still has his guns.
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 06:57 PM
Jan 2013

Unfortunately this is all they can probably do to him for now. And that just illustrates the need for regulation.

PSPS

(13,590 posts)
40. Correct. He should have his guns confiscated before his promised killing spree instead of after it.
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 07:18 PM
Jan 2013

Laurian

(2,593 posts)
12. And anyone who is associated with him. I don't know
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 06:34 PM
Jan 2013

if his "army" comments were just bravado or not, but he may well have a cohort of like thinking dumb asses.

Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Laurian

(2,593 posts)
39. If you think his permit should not have been revoked, why
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 07:17 PM
Jan 2013

not just say so instead of speaking in some kind of code with an implied message.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
59. In the language of Petulance, 'Agree' means...
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 08:18 PM
Jan 2013

" Do you know what "Agree" means? "

I've inferred that in the language of Petulance, 'Agree' means, "I've failed completely to make my clever point, and am now backtracking so as deny looking like a greater fool"

graegoyle

(532 posts)
65. In this, instance I think you have misunderstood something.
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 09:09 PM
Jan 2013

The poster seems to support the revocation of the permits and suggests even more restrictions of his rights; that post needs no decoding.

Luft

(5 posts)
82. I'm hoping his statement was misunderstood.
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 09:06 PM
Jan 2013

I'm hoping by "remove all other civil rights to make the point" he means that the man should be arrested, convicted and jailed which would remove all his other rights and make a point. But I have to agree that he came off sounding a bit like a troll.

 

jody

(26,624 posts)
30. Good question. I don't know of any legal way to deny just one of a person's civil rights. Do you? nt
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 07:04 PM
Jan 2013
 

Trajan

(19,089 posts)
45. You presented this ridiculous dichotomy
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 07:33 PM
Jan 2013

1) "Agree" he should lose his concealed carry rights

then ...

2) ALL civil rights should be denied ?

C'mon ... admit your. cynical little ploy .... absolute non sequitur ..... red herring ... completely fallacious.

Your intent is to disrupt this forum, and I really do wish you would simply admit this to yourself and the rest of us. Stop your little lie and find some honesty in your soul ...

If you had a scintilla of integrity, you would immediately remove yourself from this forum, and never return.

Fat chance of that, though ... eh?

Yeah .... Fat chance ....

 

jody

(26,624 posts)
46. Trajan you really are good for laughs. RKBA is a civil right. If it's removed then a logical
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 07:37 PM
Jan 2013

question is why not remove all civil rights?

That was the point of my suggestion "remove all other civil rights".

I'm so sorry that you were not able to understand that.

Thanks for trying anyway.

 

Trajan

(19,089 posts)
49. Oh .... I understood completely ....
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 07:48 PM
Jan 2013

Last edited Sat Jan 12, 2013, 01:17 AM - Edit history (1)

Your intent is clear: cast the sincerely and correctly applied loss of the right to carry a concealed weapon as a 'bad thing', and poison the well by demanding ALL civil rights then be denied .....

There is no obvious rationale for this line of argument, except to purposely toss a monkey wrench into the issue ....

Your intent is to disrupt the discussion, plain and simple ....

I see Pave and d_s were finally shown the door ... there are still a few of you left, eh?

How long, Jody? .... How long will it take?

2naSalit

(86,536 posts)
62. Pretzel logic...
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 08:55 PM
Jan 2013

This individual used it in another thread earlier... makes no sense, keeps demanding answers to rhetorical questions that make little or no sense.

 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
38. Really?
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 07:16 PM
Jan 2013

That's not a hard thing to do. I can't imagine why a reasonably intelligent person could not comprehend a method to prohibit a person to carry a concealed weapon, while at the same time allowing them - for example - to vote or enjoy freedom of association.

Of course, "reasonably intelligent" is stipulated.

Luft

(5 posts)
83. Due process
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 09:11 PM
Jan 2013

When a person is arrested and jailed they lose there right of liberty. It requires (or at least it is suppose to require) due process.

Lone_Star_Dem

(28,158 posts)
47. Are you're saying you believe concealed carry is a civil right under the second amendment?
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 07:39 PM
Jan 2013

Which should not be regulated by the states, or subject to review? That it's somehow protected beyond ramifications?

Since in the US a person can lose one or more of their civil liberties and still retain others as a consequence to their actions, that still makes no sense to me.

What exactly are you saying, and which other specific rights are you thinking they should lose?

Lone_Star_Dem

(28,158 posts)
57. No, you also said to remove all his other civil rights.
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 08:15 PM
Jan 2013

Which promted me to ask if you believed his right to carry a handgun should not be regulated by the states, be subject to review, and if it was somehow protected beyond ramifications no matter what his actions?

I also pointed out that one can lose some of their civil liberties in the United States as a consequence of their actions, and still retain others. Which made what you said all the more confusing to me.

The laws are how our civil liberties are applied to our everyday lives. Not adhering to the law has consequences, which in this case cost him his right to publicly carry his handgun.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
75. wow. that fools been here longer than me..
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 01:17 AM
Jan 2013

guess he really really liked guns. well, he's in a better place now.

2naSalit

(86,536 posts)
63. With rights come responsibilities
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 08:59 PM
Jan 2013

It would appear that this individual has forfeited his "right" to conceal/carry by his choice to eschew his responsibilities that accompany said "right".

2naSalit

(86,536 posts)
67. Perhaps it's because that's the one he seems to not
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 09:17 PM
Jan 2013

give a rat's ass about at the moment. And perhaps there will be other rights he will choose to forfeit, though it seems he already has, so I suspect that some others will be at stake in the very near future. Instant gratification doesn't always work in legal issues that may bring others into harm's way while trying to enforce the law.

Luft

(5 posts)
84. Because that would require putting him to death
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 09:16 PM
Jan 2013

Jody, after reading your posts I have to believe you are trolling.

jobycom

(49,038 posts)
17. Now they can pick him up in two weeks for an unlicensed concealed weapon...
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 06:46 PM
Jan 2013

Since he hardly seems like the type to stop carrying just because the law tells him to.

Response to jobycom (Reply #17)

marble falls

(57,077 posts)
23. Highly appropriate. As will be the follow up visit from ATF to determine the legality of his arsenal
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 06:56 PM
Jan 2013

and his free mental evaluation for anger management and impulse control.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
24. i'd like to see a local news show visit him and ask him for comment
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 06:57 PM
Jan 2013

be sure to have the cameras rolling

RKP5637

(67,104 posts)
32. Fortunately, he decided to advertise his intentions. He's a hazard. One would hope
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 07:07 PM
Jan 2013

he's under surveillance. Watching the videos he sure doesn't seem very well wrapped.

 

jody

(26,624 posts)
37. "under surveillance" Don't worry, Poindexter's Total Information Awareness office didn't go
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 07:15 PM
Jan 2013

away. it's tracking every post, email, phone call, and movement of those on both the fringe of the Right & Left.


PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
35. Tennesse is rather red
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 07:13 PM
Jan 2013

So the guy obviously had to be rather dumb to put that statement out. Old coworker of me did something just about as dumb but he's in jail and this nut isn't. and maybe for a good reason but he never meant to kill anyone. This guy however.......

 

Dems to Win

(2,161 posts)
43. In Tennesse? Call your police, demand they boycott Tactical Response
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 07:23 PM
Jan 2013

Put this treasonous outfit out of business.

It is a MYTH that the 2nd amendment exists to facilitate treason. It was written to facilitate defense against sedition and rebellion, as in the Whiskey Rebellion, when the militia was called out to put down armed resistance.

These folks plotting treason, and there are a lot of them, need to be treated as the traitors that they are.

Surely we can start with getting them out of government contracting.

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
80. It's right there in the words...
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 08:35 PM
Jan 2013

"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

The militia is to be "well regulated" and help provide security for the "state". It is not meant to be used against the state.

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
44. Maybe we'll get lucky and Yeager
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 07:25 PM
Jan 2013

will pull a concealed weapon on someone and they'll do the same and shoot him. The world will be a better place.

60. CUCKOO...!!!!!!!!!
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 08:23 PM
Jan 2013

Does an assault weapon make you MENTAL, or..............
Does a MENTAL case need, an assault weapon..??!!

thucythucy

(8,045 posts)
73. Can you imagine being this guy's neighbor?
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 11:14 PM
Jan 2013

That sound you hear is property values in his neighborhood being flushed down the toilet.

Earth_First

(14,910 posts)
86. Honestly, they need to take this a step further...
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 11:33 PM
Jan 2013

Revoke the training credentials to any individual or organization which used Tactical Response as a training facility.

Let it be known that this sort of behavior will not be tolerated.

Don't like my opinion on this; you should hear my ideas on gun control...

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