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Omaha Steve

(99,055 posts)
Tue Jan 1, 2013, 07:20 PM Jan 2013

Governor to sue NCAA over Penn State sanctions

Source: AP-Excite

By PETER JACKSON

HARRISBURG, Pa. (AP) - Gov. Tom Corbett said Tuesday he plans to sue the NCAA in federal court over stiff sanctions imposed against Penn State University in the wake of the Jerry Sandusky child sexual abuse scandal.

The Republican governor scheduled a Wednesday news conference on the Penn State campus in State College to announce the filing in U.S. District Court in Harrisburg.

The sanctions, which were agreed to by the university in July, included a $60 million fine that would be used nationally to finance child abuse prevention grants. The sanctions also included a four-year bowl game ban for the university's marquee football program, reduced football scholarships and the forfeiture of 112 wins.

The governor's office announced the news conference late Tuesday afternoon. His spokesman did not respond to repeated calls and emails seeking to confirm a Sports Illustrated story that cited anonymous sources saying a lawsuit was imminent.

FULL story at link.


Read more: http://apnews.excite.com/article/20130101/DA3HMF9G0.html





In this Nov. 10, 2011 file photo, Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Corbett makes remarks during a news conference after a Penn State Board of Trustees meeting in State College, Pa. Corbett said Tuesday, Jan. 1, 2013 he plans to sue the NCAA in federal court over sanctions imposed against Penn State in the wake of the Jerry Sandusky child sexual abuse scandal. (AP Photo/Matt Rourke, File)

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Governor to sue NCAA over Penn State sanctions (Original Post) Omaha Steve Jan 2013 OP
As is to be expected of the Republican party. /nt Ash_F Jan 2013 #1
I dunno, I expect this to have some defenders here Posteritatis Jan 2013 #13
No doubt some VERY wealthy alumni and Corbett donors are behind this... Earth_First Jan 2013 #2
I hope this arrogant prig bucolic_frolic Jan 2013 #3
Put criminals in jail, why punish future athletes for crimes daa Jan 2013 #4
Because republicans are all about child sex abuse PSPS Jan 2013 #5
Hey Gov...ya know, you really should just STFU and let this thing go away. SoapBox Jan 2013 #6
Corbett is trying to head off an investigation into his role in the case Tempest Jan 2013 #7
Link? Earth_First Jan 2013 #10
A link? All you have to do is Google it and the links p-o-u-r in for you benld74 Jan 2013 #11
Some people need to be led by the nose Tempest Jan 2013 #22
Are you fucking kidding me? Earth_First Jan 2013 #28
By admitting you could have googled it yourself... Tempest Jan 2013 #29
Oh my! Earth_First Jan 2013 #31
you know booley Jan 2013 #43
Yeah latch onto Sandusky underpants Jan 2013 #8
What's that? You want to double the penalty? Arctic Dave Jan 2013 #9
Is it really a governor's responsibility to get a university football games? muriel_volestrangler Jan 2013 #12
One word: Revenue. AngryOldDem Jan 2013 #16
Second word: Complicity Tempest Jan 2013 #23
If you want to avoid investigations a lawsuit is the last thing you want to do. former9thward Jan 2013 #30
The investigation is coming regardless Tempest Jan 2013 #33
Corbett knows the only way he can hold off the investigation by the new Attorney General in PA... LynneSin Jan 2013 #42
No better evidence required to prove the sanctions valid. malthaussen Jan 2013 #14
Huh. I thought Penn State got off relatively lightly. AngryOldDem Jan 2013 #15
The feds should pull all funding and uncreditate the university Tempest Jan 2013 #24
Talk about some nerve obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #17
Are People Missing RobinA Jan 2013 #18
As another PA taxpayer, I think it's hypocritical to particpate in a national organization, msanthrope Jan 2013 #20
I "get" his point obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #21
+1. The NCAA shouldn't get to plunder PSU, that money will be needed for the lawsuits by victims. JVS Jan 2013 #25
As the poster above you said Tempest Jan 2013 #34
I think this lawsuit is a reasonable undertaking, as the NCAA' authority to levy the fine isn't... JVS Jan 2013 #36
"The NCAA is merely an organization formed..." Tempest Jan 2013 #38
I can see the problem from that perspective. Xithras Jan 2013 #27
The NCAA could just kick them out of the organization. liberal N proud Jan 2013 #19
Kick them out, but leave the $60,000,000 JVS Jan 2013 #26
Isn't $60 milion about what the football team brings in every couple of years..... Fastcars Jan 2013 #32
The $60M is probably tied to football gate revenue jmowreader Jan 2013 #40
How much has PSU earned being a member of the NCAA? Tempest Jan 2013 #35
I would love to see the DoJ dig into this Doctor_J Jan 2013 #37
As our former AG ReformedGOPer Jan 2013 #39
Corbett knows in a few weeks he is going to be investigated on how he fucked up the Sandusky case LynneSin Jan 2013 #41

Posteritatis

(18,807 posts)
13. I dunno, I expect this to have some defenders here
Tue Jan 1, 2013, 09:39 PM
Jan 2013

A whole hell of a lot of people on DU were pretty unhappy with the idea that PSU needed to get punished for massive ongoing institutional failures; they'll perk right up at this.

Earth_First

(14,910 posts)
2. No doubt some VERY wealthy alumni and Corbett donors are behind this...
Tue Jan 1, 2013, 07:27 PM
Jan 2013

Follow the money.

Outside Penn State; the general public feels PSU got what it deserved...

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
6. Hey Gov...ya know, you really should just STFU and let this thing go away.
Tue Jan 1, 2013, 07:33 PM
Jan 2013

SO many at the school were guilty of enabling Coach Pervert.

Just take the medicine like a man and SHUT UP.

Tempest

(14,591 posts)
7. Corbett is trying to head off an investigation into his role in the case
Tue Jan 1, 2013, 07:37 PM
Jan 2013

Kane was elected AG on the promise to find out what Corbett knew, when he knew it and what he did to derail a thorough investigation into the crime.

Earth_First

(14,910 posts)
28. Are you fucking kidding me?
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 01:06 PM
Jan 2013

Led by the nose?

Sure I could have Googled it myself, and yielded a dozen or more stories...

I thought perhaps, you would have a really great link out of all the available options and would be willing to link it for the overall informative nature that DU is known for.

You sound like a jackass!

Tempest

(14,591 posts)
29. By admitting you could have googled it yourself...
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 01:10 PM
Jan 2013

You're admitting you want to be led by the nose.

And from those dozen or more stories you would have gotten the complete picture of the case. That is assuming you would take the time to research in the first place.

booley

(3,855 posts)
43. you know
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 01:34 PM
Jan 2013

it's not earth first's responsibility to prove someone else's argument.

IF someone appears to make an outrageous claim, it's acceptable to ask for proof and it's up the person making the claim to provide that proof.

 

Arctic Dave

(13,812 posts)
9. What's that? You want to double the penalty?
Tue Jan 1, 2013, 07:38 PM
Jan 2013

Ohhh, how about they boot your sorry asses out of the NCAA all together.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,146 posts)
12. Is it really a governor's responsibility to get a university football games?
Tue Jan 1, 2013, 09:35 PM
Jan 2013

I know it's a state university, but surely the state's responsibility is in the area of education, not recreation?

Tempest

(14,591 posts)
23. Second word: Complicity
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 12:27 PM
Jan 2013

Read up on Corbett while AG and his attempts to derail and prevent an investigation into the crimes.

former9thward

(31,798 posts)
30. If you want to avoid investigations a lawsuit is the last thing you want to do.
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 01:18 PM
Jan 2013

Lawsuits lead to depositions on both sides where anything can be asked and investigated.

Tempest

(14,591 posts)
33. The investigation is coming regardless
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 03:50 PM
Jan 2013

AG Kane ran and won on the platform of investigating Corbett's involvement in the crimes.

Corbett is trying to get ahead of the investigation by trying to get Penn State fans (which include the governor and probably all the legislature) to pressure her into not investigating him.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
42. Corbett knows the only way he can hold off the investigation by the new Attorney General in PA...
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 09:00 AM
Jan 2013

is to hopefully rally the fans around him.

This lawsuit is nothing more than a lame attempt to look like 'The Good Guy' when he knows in a few weeks new PA Attorney General Kathleen Kane is going to investigate why Corbett's AG term did nothing when they knew about Sandusky back in 2008.

Corbett didn't want to go after Sandusky for one reason only -Corbett felt he would have pissed off PSU fans and lost their vote in the 2010 governor election.

malthaussen

(17,065 posts)
14. No better evidence required to prove the sanctions valid.
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 05:33 AM
Jan 2013

For this reason and that, I found the NCAA's actions a bit odd, but if Corbett is going to stick his nose in it, then I'll have to withdraw my objections. What a transparent effort to curry favor and deflect attention from his own role in the case.

-- Mal

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
15. Huh. I thought Penn State got off relatively lightly.
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 07:03 AM
Jan 2013

The NCAA could have just shut down the whole program.




Tempest

(14,591 posts)
24. The feds should pull all funding and uncreditate the university
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 12:28 PM
Jan 2013

It was a conspiracy.

RICO statutes should apply.

RobinA

(9,874 posts)
18. Are People Missing
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 09:46 AM
Jan 2013

the point? My understanding of this suit is that it is to have the sanction money spent in PA, not the nation as a whole. This, to me, makes sense, as there is probably a fair amount of tax dollars involved here. As a PA tax payer and someone in no way, shape, or form contected with PSU, I would prefer that this money (regardless of how I feel about the appropriateness of the sanction), be spent in-state. The ultimate destination of this money is important to me, because I generally feel it will end up lining pockets of the sports establishment rather than furthering any social cause. Frankly, I think it a money grab by the NCAA wrapped in santimony.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
20. As another PA taxpayer, I think it's hypocritical to particpate in a national organization,
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 11:04 AM
Jan 2013

drawing in revenues from around the nation, and recruiting from around the nation, and then demand that the fine money you have to pay for covering up a child sex abuser be spent in your great state.

Corbett's just trying to forestall the critique that the 60 mil is something he 'lost' for the state.

JVS

(61,935 posts)
25. +1. The NCAA shouldn't get to plunder PSU, that money will be needed for the lawsuits by victims.
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 12:35 PM
Jan 2013

Tempest

(14,591 posts)
34. As the poster above you said
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 03:52 PM
Jan 2013

You don't get the benefits of being a member of the NCAA and not expect to pay the penalties when rules are broken.

PSU is lucky they're still open. If I was the head of the DOJ, I'd shut them down using RICO.

JVS

(61,935 posts)
36. I think this lawsuit is a reasonable undertaking, as the NCAA' authority to levy the fine isn't...
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 05:43 PM
Jan 2013

beyond question. My position is covered here http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021025948

Now, you talk about if you were head of the DOJ. The DOJ is part of the justice system and has standing to impose all kinds of punishments. The NCAA is merely an organization formed by a coalition of college athletics departments in order to promote their business interests. If the NCAA decides that it does not want to conduct further business with PSU, that is fine with me as it is their right. But I have a big problem with the NCAA deciding that it will seize large quantities of money belonging to a state school and thereby at the ultimate expense of the Pennsylvanian taxpayer.

Tempest

(14,591 posts)
38. "The NCAA is merely an organization formed..."
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 06:07 PM
Jan 2013

Patented nonsense.

The NCAA has had and has always had punishments built into their contracts with their members. You sign an agreement which contains those punishments.

By LEGAL CONTRACT the NCAA has the right to issue fines.

Xithras

(16,191 posts)
27. I can see the problem from that perspective.
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 12:48 PM
Jan 2013

It's a handover of $60 million taxpayer dollars to what is, in essence, a privately held sports organization. More importantly, those are $60 million taxpayer dollars that were earmarked by the legislature for education. It's probably improper for a school employee to be arbitrarily signing it over without approval from the state government.

The NCAA should have levied its fine the same way the Big Ten did. Rather than demanding lump sum payments, the Big Ten has decided to simply divert bowl revenue from Penn State for the next few years. Penn State will feel the loss, but they'll never touch the penalty dollars themselves and there's no danger of private sports revenue being mixed up with public educational dollars.

Of course, I'm also not opposed to simply eliminating the Penn State athletics programs entirely for a few years as a penalty.

liberal N proud

(60,298 posts)
19. The NCAA could just kick them out of the organization.
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 10:33 AM
Jan 2013

Penn State chose to be part of the NCAA and that mean abiding by their rules and suffering the consequences when said rules are broken.

The Governor is worried more about the trophies and less about the souls.

Fastcars

(204 posts)
32. Isn't $60 milion about what the football team brings in every couple of years.....
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 01:44 PM
Jan 2013

I don't know that it is fair to say that the $60 million fine is "taxpayer's money".

jmowreader

(50,447 posts)
40. The $60M is probably tied to football gate revenue
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 08:44 AM
Jan 2013

Big-time college football is the NFL Development League. They could pay that fine without a nickel of tax money.

They SHOULD get quite a bit from Sandusky and some from JoePa's estate, but they won't.

Tempest

(14,591 posts)
35. How much has PSU earned being a member of the NCAA?
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 03:54 PM
Jan 2013

I'm betting it far surpasses the amount of the fine.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
37. I would love to see the DoJ dig into this
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 05:53 PM
Jan 2013

and expose the ties between Corbett, Sandusky, and the 3rd Mile. Corbett cut taxes for Sandusky's foundation, which then gave it back to him in "campaign contributions". Please, open up this can of worms, Holder.

ReformedGOPer

(478 posts)
39. As our former AG
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 10:57 PM
Jan 2013

Corbett knew all about Sandusky for at least three years before it became public. PSU alumni (which make up probably half of the state's population) are pissed as hell at him for not finding a way to stop/bury/hide the whole thing years ago. Of course, he couldn't do anything about it and still run for Governor. Corbett knows that our new AG (a Dem) ran on the promise of a complete investigation of the cover-up at Penn State. Corbett is merely trying to get some of the richer alumni on his side.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
41. Corbett knows in a few weeks he is going to be investigated on how he fucked up the Sandusky case
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 08:54 AM
Jan 2013

Corbett knew about the Sandusky case back in 2008 when he was the state Attorney General and yet all he did was assign the MINIMUM to investigate the case (he assigned one state police).

If Joe Paterno had to lose his job because he knew and did nothing then so should Corbett. Hell Corbett took campaign contributions from Sandusky's charity Second Mile when he (corbett) was running for Governor.

In a nutshell Corbett is hoping this lawsuit will rally the PSU fans around him and help stave off the investigation into the crime. Personally I hope PSU fans lead the way because perhaps if Corbett did his job then Paterno's job might have been spared.

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