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brooklynite

(94,483 posts)
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 11:43 PM Dec 2012

Some Republicans Think the NRA Has Jumped the Shark

Source: Roll Call

The immediate reaction from Republican staffers on Capitol Hill suggests the National Rifle Association might have jumped the shark Friday.

After Wayne LaPierre, the executive vice president of the NRA, blamed mass school shootings on “gun-free school zones,” suggested there should be a national mental health registry, blamed the media’s coverage of violence, pointed fingers at video games and old films and introduced the “National School Shield Program,” wherein the NRA would train armed school personnel and volunteers, it was just too much for some Republicans.

100 percent true,” one GOP staffer said when asked if the NRA had jumped the shark Friday.

True,” replied another. “But only after they set themselves on fire first. That was BRUTAL.


Read more: http://hoh.rollcall.com/some-republicans-think-the-nra-has-jumped-the-shark/

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Some Republicans Think the NRA Has Jumped the Shark (Original Post) brooklynite Dec 2012 OP
Gee, ya think? NICO9000 Dec 2012 #1
Is it time to throw old Wayne under the bus? pscot Dec 2012 #2
The man is obviously suffers from severe senility. AAO Dec 2012 #18
Lead poisoning from handling all those bullets. nt valerief Dec 2012 #25
Under the bus, back up and do donuts on his miserable carcass! LongTomH Dec 2012 #27
I hope this is the beginning of their demise BainsBane Dec 2012 #3
He got his DR. to state he had a nervous condition. eom EmeraldCityGrl Dec 2012 #10
Then let us place his name at the very top of his Marie Marie Dec 2012 #11
Wouldn't he then ban guns from himself? BainsBane Dec 2012 #12
So nervous that he's only calm when sitting on a stack of AR-15s . . . hatrack Dec 2012 #20
NEWSFLASH, REPUBLICANS Skittles Dec 2012 #4
+10000000000000 jillan Dec 2012 #5
+ 1,00000000000000 Berlum Dec 2012 #19
+1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000! calimary Dec 2012 #34
Republican "staffers" jimlup Dec 2012 #6
I thought that too until I watched the press conference later after it aired... OneMoreDemocrat Dec 2012 #7
Like his very job was hanging in the balance.. how dare Cha Dec 2012 #14
I was thinking of another word... awoke_in_2003 Dec 2012 #16
if the NRA is truly on the ropes oldhippydude Dec 2012 #8
"Fast and Furious" ended in January 2011, about 2 years ago! George II Dec 2012 #22
Some? Just some? (nt) Control-Z Dec 2012 #9
Well, yes. The rest can't read and just watch Fox. Or live under rocks and know nothing about this Squinch Dec 2012 #30
They insulted the sweet Cha Dec 2012 #13
They brought megalodon back from the dead because there wasn't enough shark to jump here. (nt) Posteritatis Dec 2012 #15
How many days will that last for? davidpdx Dec 2012 #17
So who will be the new disguised KKK group? nt valerief Dec 2012 #21
I knew from the title that there would be no actual Republican on record saying any such thing. Bluenorthwest Dec 2012 #23
Staffers are someimes used to gauge how a message is received by both friend and foe alike. Ikonoklast Dec 2012 #28
Wow, really? Do tell! Bluenorthwest Dec 2012 #35
Staffer crap means nothing, don't even mention which staffs. julian09 Dec 2012 #29
I'm sure Wayne's replacement will be way better rucky Dec 2012 #24
Well, this happened just weeks after an election. hughee99 Dec 2012 #26
by not allowing guns at this event, the nra does not support the 2nd amendment. samsingh Dec 2012 #31
The Republican Party IS the shark. nt valerief Dec 2012 #32
"wherein the NRA would train armed school personnel and volunteers" FOR FREE? angstlessk Dec 2012 #33
They *think* he's jumped the shark?! Cherchez la Femme Dec 2012 #36
and just what is the nineteen50 Dec 2012 #37
NRA Steele1762 Dec 2012 #38
That's one way to put it. spicegal Dec 2012 #39
How can you tell someone else has Jumped the Shark when you've done the same? undeterred Dec 2012 #40
The NRA is not radical enough for the RW, GOA is Resonance_Chamber Dec 2012 #41
Jump the shark. jqanderson1 Dec 2012 #42
Some of those Republicans need to help their NRA Fascists understand the rational difference patrice Dec 2012 #43
"Fascists" Crackinrocket Dec 2012 #44
The objective of all forms of fascism is to acquire power, for power's sake alone. Does this not patrice Dec 2012 #45
Fascism is an authoritarian political ideology. Crackinrocket Dec 2012 #46
That would depend upon their purposes for power, how they use it, exclusively or inclusively, for patrice Dec 2012 #48
The purpose of which "authoritarian political ideology" is unity & how else is unity acquired except patrice Dec 2012 #49
Q. What is the purpose of "authority"? A. Power. patrice Dec 2012 #50
Whether the description of Fascism is from the Right or from the Left, the common trait between both patrice Dec 2012 #47
Obama and the democrats should go for the throat on this one BanTheGOP Dec 2012 #51
Excellent AldoLeopold Dec 2012 #52

BainsBane

(53,026 posts)
3. I hope this is the beginning of their demise
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 11:48 PM
Dec 2012

Long overdo. Lawrence O'Donnell said LaPierre avoided the draft. I suppose he got deferments. Typical for chicken hawks.

BainsBane

(53,026 posts)
12. Wouldn't he then ban guns from himself?
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 01:24 AM
Dec 2012

A nervous condition that keeps your from serving in the military qualifies as mental illness.
Considering he wants a database of psychiatric patients, he should be on it too.
What a hypocrite.

hatrack

(59,583 posts)
20. So nervous that he's only calm when sitting on a stack of AR-15s . . .
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 09:54 AM
Dec 2012

And only if that stack is constantly growing.

Kind of like the Winchester House out in California (pun intended).

calimary

(81,189 posts)
34. +1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000!
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 04:33 AM
Dec 2012

Totally, completely, absolutely, and undeniably! Beyond any doubt.

 

OneMoreDemocrat

(913 posts)
7. I thought that too until I watched the press conference later after it aired...
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 12:43 AM
Dec 2012

and I gotta say, it wasn't just the craziness LaPierre was actually saying, but the way he was saying it.

I think an awful lot of Americans, even folks who were NRA supporters feel that he was really over the top; angry, judgmental, defensive.

Those same supporters are the ones that have to do the voting to keep the Congress in office and this performance may very well be difficult to shine up come election time...I'm not sure that proudly boasting of being an NRA supporter will be a great move.

In fact I wouldn't be surprised if LaPierre was looking for a new job soon.

Cha

(297,052 posts)
14. Like his very job was hanging in the balance.. how dare
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 02:12 AM
Dec 2012

America insinuate NRA had anything to do with death by guns, guns, guns, and more guns.. all kinds of guns.

oldhippydude

(2,514 posts)
8. if the NRA is truly on the ropes
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 12:48 AM
Dec 2012

can't we do something about the flow of guns into Mexico..... not only is it a national disgrace, Darrel Issa has used the fast and furious for over a year as whipping boy...

Squinch

(50,935 posts)
30. Well, yes. The rest can't read and just watch Fox. Or live under rocks and know nothing about this
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 03:53 PM
Dec 2012

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
17. How many days will that last for?
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 05:12 AM
Dec 2012

The Republicans are schizophrenic and will change their mind once some of these groups start threatening to jerk their purse strings for their campaigns.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
23. I knew from the title that there would be no actual Republican on record saying any such thing.
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 11:54 AM
Dec 2012

One GOP 'staffer'. Then another staffer! The 'staffers' do not so much as name their office or title much less give their names or the names of the Republicans they serve who have said nothing against the NRA.
No, the Republicans and other right leaning people are still silent and still supporting the NRA and guns for all. Claiming otherwise using unnamed underlings seems to shine rosy light on the Republicans which is fully undeserved.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
28. Staffers are someimes used to gauge how a message is received by both friend and foe alike.
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 02:34 PM
Dec 2012

It is a way to gauge which way the political winds and public opinion on a touchy matter are blowing without having to commit one way or another.

Right now, the NRA is political poison, and LaPierre wannts the GOP to line up and drink a shit-ton more of it.

Anyone running on a strict NRA approved platform from here on out will now have to do so with also having to apologize for mass murderers in order to justify themselves.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
35. Wow, really? Do tell!
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 08:50 AM
Dec 2012

My point, and I don't much care if you don't like it, is that as a Democrat, I do not count unnamed staff at unnamed offices as 'Republicans against the NRA' . I think the headline serves the right, Republicans and their Third Way allies.
No matter how you slice it, all the 'name' Republicans still support and take money from the NRA. As a Democrat, I'd like to shout that fact from the roof tops, not attempt to craft a false 'balance' with 'both sides doing it' and all. It is bull puckey.
So sure. Some Republican somewhere probably does think that. But to imply it is elected Republicans in DC only serves them. Not one of them has said NRA 'jumped the shark' or any other critical statement. Not one of them.

 

julian09

(1,435 posts)
29. Staffer crap means nothing, don't even mention which staffs.
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 03:24 PM
Dec 2012

The NRA has 4 million members against at least 160 million voters; you would think that the 160 million voters, carry more weight and
fear if they organized themselves against the NRA extreem candidates, not NRA members. Overwhelming numbers of their members favor reasonable laws. The NRA is for the gun industry not its' members.
It is time for the majority to push the mere 4 million NRA threath aside and give them the fear of 160 million voters instead.

Same goes for the tax cut on rich and Grover Norquist threath to primary.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
26. Well, this happened just weeks after an election.
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 02:21 PM
Dec 2012

Repukes, like all politicians, don't need to give a shit what their interest groups think for at least another year.

angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
33. "wherein the NRA would train armed school personnel and volunteers" FOR FREE?
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 11:03 PM
Dec 2012

Or do they stand to make some big bucks off this proposal? Wow educational dollars going directly into the coffers of the NRA. A wet dream cum true!

Cherchez la Femme

(2,488 posts)
36. They *think* he's jumped the shark?!
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 01:29 AM
Dec 2012

To quote a good friend of mine, and of good children whose parents happen to have expendable money this year:

"Hohohohohoho!"

nineteen50

(1,187 posts)
37. and just what is the
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 04:24 PM
Dec 2012

connection between NRA and military armaments industry? Why send NRA to U.N. to argue against international gun running regulations.

 

Resonance_Chamber

(142 posts)
41. The NRA is not radical enough for the RW, GOA is
Thu Dec 27, 2012, 08:14 AM
Dec 2012

the preferred mouth piece for the nutters now....


Gun Owners of America (GOA) is a non-profit lobbying organization formed in 1975 to preserve and defend the Second Amendment rights of gun owners. GOA sees firearms ownership as a freedom issue.

GOA was founded in 1975 by Sen. H.L. (Bill) Richardson (now retired). Richardson continues to serve as the Chairman of Gun Owners of America, bringing his many years of political experience to the leadership of GOA. Richardson is also an avid hunter and outdoorsman.

The GOA Board of Directors brings over 100 years of combined knowledge and experience on guns, legislation and politics. GOA's Board is not satisfied with the "status quo." Americans have lost some of our precious gun rights and WE WANT THEM BACK! This is why GOA is considered the "no compromise" gun lobby.

From state legislatures and city councils to the United States Congress and the White House, GOA represents the views of gun owners whenever their rights are threatened.

GOA has never wavered from its mission to defend the Second Amendment -- liberty's freedom teeth, as George Washington called it.

Over the last 30 years, GOA has built a nationwide network of attorneys to help fight court battles in almost every state in the nation to protect gun owner rights. GOA staff and attorneys have also worked with members of Congress, state legislators and local citizens to protect gun ranges and local gun clubs from closure by overzealous government anti-gun bureaucrats.


http://gunowners.org/protect.htm

http://gunowners.org/

patrice

(47,992 posts)
43. Some of those Republicans need to help their NRA Fascists understand the rational difference
Sun Dec 30, 2012, 10:18 PM
Dec 2012

between inductive and deductive reasoning, that is, if any of them care about the truth at all, instead of making psychosis the goal of ALL Republican efforts, their highest priority over ANY other issue, including national defense.

patrice

(47,992 posts)
45. The objective of all forms of fascism is to acquire power, for power's sake alone. Does this not
Sun Dec 30, 2012, 10:56 PM
Dec 2012

describe the NRA (amongst others, e.g. the Tea Party), especially in as much as their means of power acquisition is the ultimate violence possible, or at least the threat thereof?

What do you think the purpose of fascism is?

 

Crackinrocket

(25 posts)
46. Fascism is an authoritarian political ideology.
Sun Dec 30, 2012, 11:06 PM
Dec 2012

What does an organization that lobbies for the gun industry and gun owners have to do with the unique brand of authoritarianism that fascism implies? Just wanting power doesn't necessarily equate to being a fascist. Almost every politician seeks to acquire power through violence ( supporting military industrial complex, war, police state etc). Are the majority of our politicians fascist?

patrice

(47,992 posts)
48. That would depend upon their purposes for power, how they use it, exclusively or inclusively, for
Sun Dec 30, 2012, 11:19 PM
Dec 2012

a single objective, e.g. the propagation of as many guns of every kind as possible to as many people as possible, with no other criteria than more, always more, unceasingly more and, in the case of guns, more = more power over others, whether that power is latent or manifest, more guns = more of it.

patrice

(47,992 posts)
49. The purpose of which "authoritarian political ideology" is unity & how else is unity acquired except
Sun Dec 30, 2012, 11:31 PM
Dec 2012

by means of the power it takes to suppress/oppress differences?

The turbulence of the time created in people the hunger for the one of things that fascism offers foremost, unity.

- snip -

Fascism became popular because it could do what liberalism and socialism could not. People have the need to belong something greater than themselves. In weakness, the craving for unity and purpose in turn causes them to seek strength and guidance. Fascism provided that.


http://www.enscriptchun.net/words/sa/ps4.html

The opposite of weakness is the power that makes strength possible.

Guns are an ultimate form of power and, hence, the strength to make others do what you want them to do.

patrice

(47,992 posts)
47. Whether the description of Fascism is from the Right or from the Left, the common trait between both
Sun Dec 30, 2012, 11:13 PM
Dec 2012

perspectives is a drive toward power, by any means possible, under any guise/any label available, for power's sake alone.

 

BanTheGOP

(1,068 posts)
51. Obama and the democrats should go for the throat on this one
Sun Dec 30, 2012, 11:44 PM
Dec 2012

There is NO WAY that the organization should be allowed to financially exist. Every donor of this organization should be outed just like the gun owners in Westchester Country, their employers and neighbors notified, and the school officials notified so they can put out notices to city child services. No child should have to live in a household with a weapon other than law enforcement, and no child should ever touch a gun until he or she is an adult in an approved government training course.

Above all, the NRA needs to be DEMONIZED for the racist, republicanist organization that it entails. Period.

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