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Fri Dec 14, 2012, 06:09 AM

Russia's stance on Syria 'will not change'

Source: BBC News

Russia's foreign ministry has insisted that the country has not changed its position on Syria and "never will".

It came a day after Deputy Foreign Minister Mikhail Bogdanov said Syria's government was "progressively losing control" and that "the victory of the Syrian opposition cannot be excluded".

Earlier, the ministry clarified his comments, noting he had also said there could only be a political solution.

Read more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-20724959

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Russia has underlined its continuing backing for Assad, despite deputy foreign minister Bogdanov's remarks about a likely rebel victory.

Reuters quoted foreign ministry spokesman Alexander Lukashevich as saying: "We have never changed our position and we will not change it."

He also said Russia was not involved in any talks on Assad's fate or on getting him out of Syria.

Bogdanov has been holding discussions on a political transition in Syria as set out in the Geneva agreement with the international envoy on Syria Lakhdar Brahimi, and US deputy secretary of state William Burns. The US wants to see Assad stand down as part of a transition but the agreement makes no mention of this.


This is a denial of news from Thursday.

See : http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014334475

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Response to dipsydoodle (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:22 PM

1. And we are supposed to believe that.

That sounds like what a government says when it is trying to find a new home for an unpopular dictator who is no longer wanted anywhere.

You don't want to ruin the bargaining with the folks selling the house. After all, Assad may not be the most desirable immigrant.

He certainly isn't that popular where he is now.

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Response to dipsydoodle (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 04:47 PM

2. How is it a denial or contradiction?

Acknowledging a loss of state control in some areas does not mean that Russia will take the side of the insurgents or abandon its relationship with the Syrian government. The US is in la-la land on the whole issue, and international terrorism is gaining strength because of it. It is literally schizophrenic, "recognizing" the insurgents and categorizing them as terrorists at the same time. Al-Nusra IS the opposition in many areas, or at least the only ones capable of exercising authority.

It is laughable to think that there is a secular alternative if the existing Syrian state is crushed. Not only will Assad be swept aside if that happens, but with him all Christians, Shiites, Alawites, leftists, and secular-minded Syrians.

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Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:38 PM

3. What does Russia have to gain by this stance?

Eventually Assad will be overthrown. And those fighters will remember who backed them and who backed the enemy. I wonder just how magnanimous those new rulers will be towards Russian business in Syria, which is quite substantial I believe.

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Response to LiberalLovinLug (Reply #3)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 06:03 PM

4. They are making a point

with reference to Libya. The Russians do not forgive easily. The fact it is another country is incidental. They are empaphasing they will veto any attempted UN resolution on the subject........... as will China for exactly the same reason.

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