Thu Nov 29, 2012, 07:33 AM
oberliner (43,180 posts)
Palestinian statehood bid has no support from Canada
Source: Toronto Star
In the West Bank centre of Ramallah on Wednesday, crowds hoisted pictures of Prime Minister Stephen Harper with a canine face superimposed on his, and the slogan “This dog doesn’t hunt,” after Harper warned of “consequences” if Abbas didn’t abandon his bid for a UN vote.
In a news conference Wednesday, Harper said Canada believes a two-state solution “will not be accomplished . . . unless and until the Palestinian Authority returns to the negotiating table and is able to get a comprehensive peace agreement with Israel.”
Foreign Minister John Baird later warned in the House of Commons that the statehood bid could affect relations with Canada — which supplies diminishing funds to the UN agency aiding Palestinians.
Meanwhile on Wednesday, heavyweights China and India, along with France, Spain, Norway, Denmark, Austria and Switzerland, backed the Palestinian vote. Britain and Australia were likely to abstain, and Germany and Netherlands to vote “no” with Canada and the U.S.
Read more: http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/1294745--palestinian-statehood-bid-has-no-support-from-canada
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Palestinian statehood bid has no support from Canada (Original post)
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Response to Stewland (Reply #5)
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 10:51 AM
JDPriestly (57,936 posts)
6. People who want a negotiated and enforced peace in the
Middle East are in charge in Canada, the UK, Germany and the US.
The Palestinians have to go to the negotiating table like other civilized countries and negotiate in good faith, meaning enforce agreements within their own country, if they want to join the United Nations.
Palestinians have two problems: they don't negotiate in good faith, and they don't enforce agreements on their within their own boundaries.
You can't claim to be a nation among other nations unless you can speak for your people.
You may be able to criticize Israeli policies toward the Palestinians, but the Israeli government takes responsibility for those policies. It does not hide behind kids with rocks. It does not permit its citizens to violate treaties and then throw up its hands as if it is helpless.
When the Palestinians are able to establish a responsible government with which others can negotiate, then it will be received as a nation among nations. Not until then.
Response to JDPriestly (Reply #6)
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 01:13 PM
happyslug (14,779 posts)
11. So you support Hamas?
Israel has to negotiated with someone who has support in the West Bank, and that means the PLO or Hamas. Right now Abbas is losing to Hamas even in the West Bank, he needs to show the Palestinians in the West Bank he can do SOMETHING FOR THEM, and right night now that is the UN status. If Abbas fails to get that, he loses critical support from the Palestinians in the West Bank. Thus, it looks more and more that if he loses this Statehood move, he is gone and that leaves Hamas. Thus to state that Israel should NOT talk to Abbas till he withdraws his petition for UN recognition, is the same as saying Israel has to talk to Hamas. Which do you want, to talk to the PLO or Hamas, there is no other choice.
Response to happyslug (Reply #11)
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 04:35 PM
JDPriestly (57,936 posts)
16. I think Israel should talk to the representatives who are willing
to talk in good faith and to enforce agreements that are entered into. First step on both sides is to stop the violence whether by civilians or organized military.
Response to oberliner (Original post)
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 12:22 PM
dawn frenzy adams (345 posts)
9. How did the Canadians end of with Harper?
Harper is a an a evangelical Christian. He has found comradery among the extreme right-wing christian element in Canada. Their views of course, is the same about Israel as our own Christian Taliban
Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Reply #13)
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 02:00 PM
cali (114,904 posts)
14. what? When did Israel shoot babies on live TV?
and let it be noted just as there are those who support horrible Israeli acts, I've seen plenty of support and defense of horrible acts on the part of Hamas- quite a few here on DU; including support for the lynching of suspected collaborators.