US Senate Republicans block assault-style weapons ban as mass shootings rise

[BumRushDaShow]

Source: Reuters

December 6, 20231:36 PM EST


WASHINGTON, Dec 6 (Reuters) - U.S. Senate Republicans moved to block a ban on assault-style weapons put forward by Democrats on Wednesday, as the United States recorded the highest number of mass shootings for the second year in a row.

The motion, put forward by Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, would have reauthorized the Assault Weapons Ban, which first passed in 1994 and expired 10 years later.

The ban covers certain semi-automatic firearms and large capacity ammunition magazines, and ushered in a decrease of deaths from gun violence while it was in place. "The American people are sick and tired of enduring one mass shooting after another," Schumer said on Wednesday in a speech bringing the motion to the floor. "They’re sick and tired of vigils and moments of silence for family, friends, classmates, coworkers."

Republican Senator John Barasso blocked Schumer's attempt to reauthorize the ban by unanimous consent. "Americans have a Constitutional right to own a firearm," he said in a speech on the Senate floor, arguing that the bill was about "trying to label responsible gun owners as criminals."

Read more: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-senate-republicans-block-assault-style-weapons-ban-mass-shootings-rise-2023-12-06/

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Schumer had attempted this via the fast-track "Unanimous Consent" motion (which is how many non-controversial laws are passed) except if there is an "objection", which is what happened here, and then that means it would be required to go through regular order (cloture vote, debate/amendments, final vote, etc.).

[Walleye]

1. He did this as a mass shooting is actually taking place in Las Vegas

[Traildogbob]

2. Exactly

Just heard Randi mention it on her program, then saw this post about GQP. They need those weapons for trumps takeover after he loses again. No way will any GQP take those gun away, especially now they are dead in the water with a fair election

[Walleye]

3. Stupid fools, they can't win the American presidency with a few rifles

We are being governed by people who are really unintelligent

[Traildogbob]

5. Right!

The next Jan 6 will be armed. And according to GQP, Pelosi was all powerful to deploy the National Guard, (which is bullshit) does any one think Mike Johnson will not open the capital doors and demand Guard and Police not interfere with Trump terrorist in 2024, to install trump the Orange Jesus?

[Walleye]

7. We just have to work to make sure we have a Democratic majority on January 6

[Traildogbob]

9. That's all we can do

And it is gonna be a battle.

[Walleye]

10. And so much can change between now and then

[BumRushDaShow]

6. I heard a breaking on my radio news station about UNLV

right after I posted.

[llmart]

4. I hope people remember this guy's vote.

Senator John Bar-asshole.

[Kid Berwyn]

8. It's a sign.

Trump Extremists Demand Civil War, Mass Murder After New Indictment

Tom Dickinson
Rolling Stone, June 9, 2023

Extreme supporters of Donald Trump have met news of his federal indictment with visions of violence and retribution.

At The Donald, a forum for ultra-MAGA Trump supporters, users demanded public executions and other forms of lynching to avenge the federal prosecution of Trump, for the alleged mishandling of state secrets at Mar a Lago after he was no longer president.

The calls for violence appeared in comment threads, responding to posts on the front page of the forum Thursday night, after news broke of Trump’s latest legal troubles. The most extreme comments were written in response to a fanciful post insisting “the only solution” to DOJ’s efforts to lock up Trump would be to vote him back into the presidency, so Trump could “pardon himself and begin arresting those guilty of insurrection and sedition.”

A user named “Belac186” offered a far deadlier fix: “The only way this country ever becomes anything like the Constitution says this country should be is if thousands of traitorous rats are publicly executed.” Commenter “DogFaceKilla” quickly chimed in to offer supplies: “I got some rope somewhere in the garage…” And “Heavy_Metal_Patriot” added: “Hans says we can borrow the flammenwerfer” — a reference to a battlefield flame thrower used to by German soldiers in World War II.

The proposal for mass killing struck user “BlackPilledMAGA” as going too far: “Doesn’t have to be thousands, just a few dozen would do. Shit would STOP immediately.” But user “Nerdrem1” insisted taking out a few elites wouldn’t make the difference, suggesting the number of dead required was on a genocidal scale: “Millions. The real problem is the people that vote for them, as long as they exist the problem can’t be solved.” A user named “Heavy_Metal_Patriot” concurred: “Correct.”

Continues…

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-extremists-demand-civil-war-202112664.html

[republianmushroom]

11. Oh, yes, those pro-life republicans.

But once you are out of the womb your on your own. From cradle to grave with no help from them.
Well possibly a though and pray.

The assault ban does not stop one from owning a firearm. So the MAGraT's can still stroke their gun.

[groundloop]

14. Let them own firearms in common use when 2A was passed.......

The authors of the Second Amendment could have never foreseen the ultra efficient killing machines that are in use now. Gun humpers have been brainwashed into looking upon the Second Amendment as gospel, meanwhile our youth are being slaughtered by modern murder weapons. All so that the gun industry can earn a handsome profit.

[sop]

34. Republicans support a 15-week ban, not an AR-15 ban.

[ananda]

12. Good, put them on record and so it again!

!!!

[Hermit-The-Prog]

13. The Founding Fathers didn't have semi-automatics with high capacity magazines.

So what excuse does the murder cult have?

[William769]

19. How do you know thats what they meant?

If you think I read the article wrong, I'm welcome to hear why.

[carpetbagger]

21. Small arms include grenades and Stinger missiles.

Clearly there's an understanding here about not allowing mass destruction by private citizens. The only difference is now a majority want that option out there.

The NRA and Reagan of course had a completely different view when it was black people open carrying, so the poster's contention about purpose and optics of gun ownership, brandishing and use holds weight

[Hermit-The-Prog]

22. The idiot cultists, aka Subversive 6, have based rulings on 18th century arms.

It is no longer a Supreme Court, it is an Extreme Cult.

See, e.g.,
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/20-843_7j80.pdf

Or, for a summary:

Thomas changed the test courts are to use when analyzing the constitutionality of such regulations. Only firearm regulations that are “consistent with this Nation’s historical tradition” comply with Second Amendment’s protections, he wrote, in an assertion that puts in jeopardy any restriction that does not have a historical parallel to the nation’s founding.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/23/politics/second-amendment-gun-rights-supreme-court-new-york-test/index.html

This "court" distorts the Constitution to suit its ideology, rather than following logic, law and precedent.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

24. Yeah, I heard AR-15s were used to take over the airports in the Revolutionary War.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

27. You seem to want to be elsewhere. Bye.

[Swede]

35. Ask New Zealand, Scotland, Canada, the UK, the EU, Austrlia about that.

And yes Japan. The guy there had to make his gun. Didn't have a military rifle with multiple magazines.

[SYFROYH]

15. It's hard to take Schumer seriously with a "Unanimous Consent" motion for AWB

Has the AWB been relegated to a political football for both parties?

[BumRushDaShow]

30. As you know

Democrats have attempted continually to get this in place, so by attempting a different tact of a renewal of what was an earlier, bipartisan bill that was allowed to expire, doing the "unanimous consent" puts on record who is blocking the removal of weapons of war out of the general public's hands.

[SYFROYH]

32. My point was that this was not a serious attempt at law making. Just a show for those who want to ban guns.

But you’re right that a AWB wil pass if it ever gets the numbers.

[BumRushDaShow]

33. The broadbrush of "by those who want to ban guns" is of course hyperbole

for what the Assault Weapons Ban was designed to do, but you knew that.

[Polybius]

16. With what is going on with the anti-Israel protests, it wont pass

Not now anyway.

[riversedge]

28. The gun-and the NRA is the #Republicans god that they worship

[SouthernDem4ever]

29. Of course they did.

They can't go against their mother NRA.

[Vinca]

31. I never imagined I would live in a country where I have a route to safety figured out

in case a shooter turns up in the produce section of the grocery store. It's true. I actually gave it some thought and made sure I knew where the back doors were. Yet they vote "no" when it comes to protecting Americans. More will die on a daily basis. It's obscene.

[Demsrule86]

36. Maybe I am just in a bad mood...Covid does that although I am on meds and holding my own...

but this is a gun-humping right-wing shit-spewing troll IMHO and if a consensus is reached at some later time...I am a nuke.

[IronLionZion]

37. Gun sales often increase after every mass shooting

because "Dems are coming for your guns, better buy lots more just in case". So Republicans benefit from mass shootings and using the threat of bans to pander to their idiot voters.

[Lonestarblue]

38. The Guardian has a visual depiction of the gun deaths in the US by year and month.

There is a mass shooting almost every day in the US. What the media often ignores is how many people are injured in these shootings is the number of injured, many with lifelong injuries such as paralysis or other injuries causing major life disruptions. The visual shows both those killed as well as those injured. It is a chilling but effective visual.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2021/may/27/us-mass-shootings-database

[BumRushDaShow]

39. The Violence Prevention Project has similar

https://www.theviolenceproject.org/

with breakdowns (using various types of plots) for all mass shootings - https://www.theviolenceproject.org/mass-shooter-database/

For example -

[Hermit-The-Prog]

40. Wonder if there is a gif of that data

Imagine something like the animation in your sig, except it flashes for each mass shooting (or other, selectable gun violence) year by year.

[BumRushDaShow]

41. There is software to make animated gifs of snapshots

That site I linked to has that data in an animation (where you can hit a refresh icon to start it over).

[Hermit-The-Prog]

42. Thank you. That'll teach me to click *all* the links before replying.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

43. k12ssdb.org is linked from your first link...

https://k12ssdb.org/

The graph there is chilling.