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BumRushDaShow

(152,172 posts)
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 03:36 PM Oct 2023

Justice Thomas's R.V. Loan Was Forgiven, Senate Inquiry Finds

Source: New York Times

Oct. 25, 2023, 2:21 p.m. ET


The terms of the private loan were as generous as they were clear: With no money down, Justice Clarence Thomas could borrow more than a quarter of a million dollars from a wealthy friend to buy a 40-foot luxury motor coach, making annual interest-only payments for five years. Only then would the principal come due.

But despite the favorable nature of the 1999 loan and a lengthy extension to make good on his obligations, Justice Thomas failed to repay a “significant portion” — or perhaps any — of the $267,230 principal, according to a new report by Democratic members of the Senate Finance Committee. Nearly nine years later, after Justice Thomas had made an unclear number of the interest payments, the outstanding debt was forgiven, an outcome with ethical and potential tax consequences for the justice.

“This was, in short, a sweetheart deal” that made no logical sense from a business perspective, Michael Hamersley, a tax lawyer who has served as a congressional expert witness, told The New York Times.

The Senate inquiry was prompted by a Times investigation published in August that revealed that Justice Thomas bought his Prevost Marathon Le Mirage XL, a brand favored by touring rock bands and the super-wealthy, with financing from Anthony Welters, a longtime friend who made his fortune in the health care industry.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/25/us/politics/clarence-thomas-rv-loan-senate-inquiry.html



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getagrip_already

(17,715 posts)
4. Isnt it against the law......
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 03:51 PM
Oct 2023

For any member of the administration or congress to demand the irs investigate someone?

And of course they are right on top of this.....

riversedge

(75,429 posts)
5. "whether he properly reported the loan forgiveness on his tax return and paid all taxes owed."
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 04:14 PM
Oct 2023




............In a statement to The Times this summer, Mr. Welters said the loan had been “satisfied” in 2008. He declined to answer whether that meant Justice Thomas had paid off the loan in full; nor did he respond to other basic questions about the terms. But while a number of questions remain, he gave a much fuller account to the committee, which has the authority to issue subpoenas and compel testimony.

The documents he volunteered indicate that, at the very least, Justice Thomas appears to have flouted an ethics rule requiring that he include any “discharge of indebtedness” as income on required annual financial disclosure reports. In addition, the Internal Revenue Service treats debt forgiveness as income to the borrower.
Ethical Issues Inside the Supreme Court

Senator Ron Wyden, the Oregon Democrat who leads the Senate Finance Committee, called on Justice Thomas to “inform the committee exactly how much loan was forgiven and whether he properly reported the loan forgiveness on his tax return and paid all taxes owed.”

Justice Thomas did not respond immediately to questions sent to him through the Supreme Court’s spokeswoman.....................................

Magoo48

(6,289 posts)
6. With respect: all that comes to mind, in light of the lack of interest by authority, is ...so.
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 04:18 PM
Oct 2023

mackdaddy

(1,761 posts)
8. Have an uncle who used to work for the federal EPA.
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 06:09 PM
Oct 2023

He told me that they had a major incident at a factory along the Ohio river, and several EPA people including him, and some contractors were there for more than a week to get the spill cleaned up. The company catered subs for lunch so they would not have to try to drive to lunch.

Some government auditors made them reimburse the cost of the sandwich.

A FUKIN SANDWICH!!

And these right wing bastard are getting millions in perks and prizes and luxury travel vacations? WTF?

BumRushDaShow

(152,172 posts)
10. During my own federal ethics training courses
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 06:34 PM
Oct 2023

(and experience) we were told similar although an exception might have been a narrow subset of circumstances like a professional conference and "everyone" (feds/non-feds) were provided "light refreshments" (like water, coffee, tea, donuts, etc., which is what the venues often offer when the sponsor reserves the space), then we could imbibe. But otherwise, nope. That's why we were given per-diem!

GB_RN

(3,338 posts)
9. Jesus...
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 06:32 PM
Oct 2023

(In)Justice Clarence “Uncle Slappy” Thomas is as fucking corrupt as tRump. And just as brazen, if not more so.

Impeachment would never work, even if we had the House, because the Repukes in the Senate would NEVER vote to convict, regardless of the evidence: They wouldn’t give up their pet nor give Biden a chance to fill a vacant seat.

magicarpet

(18,167 posts)
11. Poof the Supreme Court Justices debt magically disappears.
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 06:38 PM
Oct 2023

Just like Kavanaugh's $150.000.00 in gambling debt plus a large home mortgage just disappeared off the paperework.

It is magic I say.

progree

(11,876 posts)
12. And then he used the RV as a prop to claim he prefers Walmart parking lots and common folk --
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 06:48 PM
Oct 2023
“I prefer the RV parks. I prefer the Walmart parking lots to the beaches and things like that. There's something normal to me about it,” Thomas said. “I come from regular stock, and I prefer that — I prefer being around that.”


regular stock, common folk, whatever

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