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Mon Sep 18, 2023, 07:40 PM

Trudeau accuses India's government of involvement in killing of Canadian Sikh leader

Source: CBC

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is accusing the government of India of involvement in the fatal shooting of a Canadian Sikh leader a claim that will have seismic effects on an already shaky bilateral relationship.

Canadian citizen Hardeep Singh Nijjar was brazenly shot dead outside a Sikh temple in Surrey, B.C. on June 18.

Nijjar, a supporter of a Sikh homeland in the form of an independent Khalistani state, had been branded by the Indian government as a "terrorist" and accused of leading a militant separatist group something his supporters have denied.

Read more: https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-indian-government-nijjar-1.6970498



This explains the tension between Trudeau and Modi last week.

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Reply Trudeau accuses India's government of involvement in killing of Canadian Sikh leader (Original post)
Swede Sep 18 OP
applegrove Sep 18 #1
Swede Sep 18 #2
Alexander Of Assyria Sep 19 #9
Ford_Prefect Sep 18 #3
JCMach1 Sep 18 #4
Ford_Prefect Sep 18 #5
JCMach1 Sep 19 #10
Warpy Sep 18 #6
cstanleytech Sep 19 #7
Swede Sep 19 #12
cstanleytech Sep 19 #17
LeftInTX Sep 19 #16
cstanleytech Sep 19 #18
LeftInTX Sep 19 #19
cstanleytech Sep 19 #21
JI7 Sep 19 #8
JCMach1 Sep 19 #11
Swede Sep 19 #13
JI7 Sep 19 #14
LeftInTX Sep 19 #15
LiberalLovinLug Sep 19 #20

Response to Swede (Original post)

Mon Sep 18, 2023, 07:57 PM

1. Now I wonder why Trudeau's airplane was grounded in India for two

days waiting for a part. Trudeau's plane is old so parts are not available everywhere. But still I wonder. Maybe the PM's team were wary of getting a part in India.

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Response to applegrove (Reply #1)

Mon Sep 18, 2023, 08:08 PM

2. It would give you pause, for sure.

If Modi is ordering assassinations, this has to cross the mind.

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Response to applegrove (Reply #1)

Tue Sep 19, 2023, 07:48 AM

9. About half a dozen times problem with the aging fleet...it's not a conspiracy theory with legs...

but on social media lack of evidence proves there is evidence.

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Response to Swede (Original post)

Mon Sep 18, 2023, 08:29 PM

3. Modi the ultra-nationalist? Had anything to do with murdering a Sikh leader? Whoa!!!

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Response to Ford_Prefect (Reply #3)

Mon Sep 18, 2023, 08:30 PM

4. You left the genocidal off ultra-nationalist... but pretty much correct

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Response to JCMach1 (Reply #4)

Mon Sep 18, 2023, 08:51 PM

5. In my experience genocidal is part of the whole tyrannical package of Ultranationalism

But I take your point with regard to the MSM who seem to have Modi confused with a duly elected leader who understands that diplomacy means that you respect international laws and norms. Murdered citizens of "another" faith only happens in uncivilized countries with whom we do not trade.

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Response to Ford_Prefect (Reply #5)

Tue Sep 19, 2023, 08:41 AM

10. Also true

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Response to Swede (Original post)

Mon Sep 18, 2023, 08:58 PM

6. I'm guessing there is decent evidence of it

The Mounties usually aren't sloppy when it comes to stuff like this.

I confess I wondered what was going on. It looked like a hit, but I suspected a home grown bigot.

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Response to Swede (Original post)

Tue Sep 19, 2023, 03:18 AM

7. By any chance was Nijjar a problem for Canada as well and this is actually a case of you scratch

my back and I'll scratch yours and to cover it they are both expressing fake outrage so as not to cause even more waves?

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Response to cstanleytech (Reply #7)

Tue Sep 19, 2023, 09:22 AM

12. Are you really saying that Canada assassinated one of it's citizens?

WTF?

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Response to Swede (Reply #12)

Tue Sep 19, 2023, 12:21 PM

17. First, no I'm not saying they *did* it. I'm asking if he was a problem for them as well and if so

*could* have been involved in such a deal.
It certainly would not be the first time a country has arranged for something to befall a citizen that they deem to be problem.

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Response to cstanleytech (Reply #7)

Tue Sep 19, 2023, 12:06 PM

16. Why would Trudeau accuse India?

He likely was a problem for Canada. We have lots of "problem" people here, but we aren't supposed to kill them.

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Response to LeftInTX (Reply #16)

Tue Sep 19, 2023, 12:25 PM

18. Wouldn't be the first time that a country has done so though as both Russia and N. Korea have

done it.

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Response to cstanleytech (Reply #18)

Tue Sep 19, 2023, 12:29 PM

19. Canada is not Russia or N Korea

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Response to LeftInTX (Reply #19)

Tue Sep 19, 2023, 01:03 PM

21. No, they aren't but like other countries they do have a long list of people that the government has

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Response to Swede (Original post)

Tue Sep 19, 2023, 05:09 AM

8. Indian Govt isn't capable of doing this

there would be clear evidence left behind.

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Response to JI7 (Reply #8)

Tue Sep 19, 2023, 08:41 AM

11. Umm, we are reading about it

i.e. NOT MI5

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Response to JI7 (Reply #8)

Tue Sep 19, 2023, 09:23 AM

13. How are they not capable.

They have spies in Canada. They have spies in the USA.

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Response to Swede (Reply #13)

Tue Sep 19, 2023, 10:11 AM

14. They are incompetent and would have been caught right away

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Response to JI7 (Reply #14)

Tue Sep 19, 2023, 11:56 AM

15. I don't believe this...

I watch lots of Bollywood...LOL

India has it's own version of the CIA, called RAW. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Research_and_Analysis_Wing


Seriously, they are capable.
They have the A-bomb.

In capabilities, they likely rank just behind Western Powers, Russia and China. I would put them on par with Turkey.
Keep in mind that India is also a very strong ally of Canada, so movement between the countries are quite fluid.

Seriously, I think most countries are capable of something like this


Kanishka Bombing case: On 23 June 1985 Air India's Flight 182 was blown up near Ireland and 329 people died. On the same day, another explosion took place at Tokyo's Narita airport's transit baggage building where baggage was being transferred from Cathay Pacific Flight No CP 003 to Air India Flight 301 which was scheduled for Bangkok. Both aircraft were loaded with explosives from Canadian airports. Flight 301 got saved because of a delay in its departure. This was considered as a major setback to R&AW for failing to gather enough intelligence about the Khalistani militants.[160][161][162]

In April 2020, it was reported that R&AW and IB had launched an extensive operation in 20092015, to influence the Canadian government and politicians into supporting India's interests.[163] Canada has long being accused by India for being a safe haven for khalistani separatists.[164]

In July 2020, Canada had put two Sikh men under No-fly list after Canadian Security Intelligence Service had gotten information, that both were going travel to Pakistan and carry out a ISI-backed terrorist attack inside India. One of the separatists was identified as the son of Lakhbir Singh Rode, a well known Khalistani terrorist.[165] The Information was provided by R&AW under the liaison relationship.

On June 19, 2023, Hardeep Singh Nijjar, a prominent Khalistani leader and chief of the Khalistan Tiger Force was shot to death outside the parking lot of Guru Nanak Sikh Gurdwara in Surrey, British Columbia.[166] Nijjar was accused of training and funding members of the separatist group and had been declared a terrorist by India, who put a bounty of ₹1,000,000 (equivalent to ₹1.2 million or US$15,000 in 2023) for information leading to his arrest.[167] This was heavily seen as an R&AW assassination operation by not only followers of Nijjar, but also from Canadian officials.[168][169] On 18 September Prime Minister Justin Trudeau of Canada formally accused the Indian government of the killing and acknowledged the expulsion of a prominent Indian diplomat responsible for R&AW activities in the country.[170]

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Response to Swede (Original post)

Tue Sep 19, 2023, 12:52 PM

20. What sucks is how a country like Canada will suffer economically from loss of business

As a Canadian, and part of a free democracy where we stand up for the rule of law...no matter who, it sucks how we will now pay for it.

Just like we have with China for helping our southern friend the USA, in holding Meng Wanzhou for extradition in the Huawei company fraud.

Also Saudi Arabia when we speak up for human rights.

Canada has 1/10 the economy of the USA and cannot absorb the hits like they can. But we can't just sit back and let other countries run all over us either

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