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LetMyPeopleVote

(154,925 posts)
Tue Aug 8, 2023, 02:54 PM Aug 2023

Trump lawyers ask to delay hearing in 2020 election case

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by Lasher (a host of the Latest Breaking News forum).

Source: Reuters

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Former President Donald Trump's attorneys on Tuesday asked the judge in his trial on charges of trying to overturn the 2020 election to delay scheduling a court hearing that will help determine how evidence can be used and shared in the case.

Trump's attorneys and U.S. Special Counsel Jack Smith's team clashed in a joint court filing over a hearing date before U.S. District Court Judge Tanya Chutkan to discuss the handling of evidence.

Prosecutors said they were available all week long. Trump's lawyers asked for a postponement until early next week.

On Monday, Trump's defense team opposed a request from prosecutors for Chutkan to impose a protective order to ensure confidential evidence is not shared publicly by Trump, suggesting he could use the information to intimidate witnesses.

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-lawyers-ask-to-delay-hearing-in-2020-election-case/ar-AA1eYjQg

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Trump lawyers ask to delay hearing in 2020 election case (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2023 OP
TFG's attorneys are playing games LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2023 #1
In what way did they "lose" Friday (ie the 11th)? muriel_volestrangler Aug 2023 #13
No, No kiri Aug 2023 #14
They are starting to remind me of a basketball team behind by 20 points in the last two minutes Walleye Aug 2023 #2
What would Yoda say? ..."Smart they are NOT." NoMoreRepugs Aug 2023 #3
Sounds like Blanche is spread too thin. Sadly that's not the judge's or prosecutor's problem emulatorloo Aug 2023 #4
Justice Delayed Kid Berwyn Aug 2023 #5
+1 peppertree Aug 2023 #12
She makes me sad. Kid Berwyn Aug 2023 #19
Aileen, in fact, is a pro-dictatorship Latin American - the kind that believe in 'take no prisoners' peppertree Aug 2023 #29
so... now we wait? ... nt orleans Aug 2023 #6
Not likely. Chutkan will probably issue her response today. ancianita Aug 2023 #7
hope so nt orleans Aug 2023 #8
exactly when is the Judge going to BLOW? MOMFUDSKI Aug 2023 #15
Here's hoping the judge asks for TFG's lawyers COMPLETE schedule from a month ago until bluestarone Aug 2023 #9
Not realistic, since (I think) re SC motions, they might have other court dates yet to be decided. ancianita Aug 2023 #10
I suppose the Judge EndlessWire Aug 2023 #11
And then next week they'll ask for another delay because Frump has campaign rallies scheduled Lonestarblue Aug 2023 #16
The fact that Trump is breaking the Judge's rules everyday argues for an immediate hearing. Midnight Writer Aug 2023 #17
Exactly! StarryNite Aug 2023 #20
They shouldn't get yet another weekend to blab around StarryNite Aug 2023 #18
Ummm .... NO! marble falls Aug 2023 #21
I already know Judge Chutkan's response. Botany Aug 2023 #22
This is more important than anything else they can be "busy" with.. JohnnyRingo Aug 2023 #23
This SOB good-for-nothing F&ing trump has the DOJ and the country hostage Escurumbele Aug 2023 #24
Judge Chutkan has set the next Trump case hearing for *Friday* at 10 am LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2023 #25
They want this so they can have moniss Aug 2023 #26
So many here on DU predicted this. C Moon Aug 2023 #27
Judge Chutkan is sending a clear message to team Trump: this is MY court, not yours. LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2023 #28
Quelle surprise. zanana1 Aug 2023 #30
Locking Lasher Aug 2023 #31

LetMyPeopleVote

(154,925 posts)
1. TFG's attorneys are playing games
Tue Aug 8, 2023, 02:55 PM
Aug 2023

muriel_volestrangler

(102,573 posts)
13. In what way did they "lose" Friday (ie the 11th)?
Tue Aug 8, 2023, 03:46 PM
Aug 2023

One of the two defense counsel is unavailable on Thursday. Fair enough, that mean Wed Aug 9th and Fri Aug 11th are the 2 days ("on or before&quot . What am I missing?

kiri

(896 posts)
14. No, No
Tue Aug 8, 2023, 03:56 PM
Aug 2023

No, No, it can't be Aug 11. That's my birthday (as a natural born citizen.)

I am turning off all the alarms and will sleep till noon.

Walleye

(35,906 posts)
2. They are starting to remind me of a basketball team behind by 20 points in the last two minutes
Tue Aug 8, 2023, 02:58 PM
Aug 2023

Of the game, futilely committing intentional fouls to stop the clock

NoMoreRepugs

(10,583 posts)
3. What would Yoda say? ..."Smart they are NOT."
Tue Aug 8, 2023, 03:00 PM
Aug 2023

emulatorloo

(45,571 posts)
4. Sounds like Blanche is spread too thin. Sadly that's not the judge's or prosecutor's problem
Tue Aug 8, 2023, 03:02 PM
Aug 2023

Send Lauro and stop whining.

Kid Berwyn

(18,116 posts)
5. Justice Delayed
Tue Aug 8, 2023, 03:11 PM
Aug 2023

It's all you got when your orange traitor of a client is guilty as charged.

peppertree

(22,850 posts)
12. +1
Tue Aug 8, 2023, 03:37 PM
Aug 2023

Cheeto's lawyers must think they're talking to the Banana Republic judge in Flawrida.

Kid Berwyn

(18,116 posts)
19. She makes me sad.
Tue Aug 8, 2023, 04:09 PM
Aug 2023

One’d think an educated jurist would hold the Constitution above money, but nooooo.



NYSE Chairman Richard Grasso Embracing Subcommandante FARC Commander Raul Reyes.



NYSE Chief Meets Rebel in Colombia

L.A. TIMES ARCHIVES
JUNE 27, 1999 12 AM PT
FROM ASSOCIATED PRESS

BOGOTA, Colombia — The chairman of the New York Stock Exchange explained markets to a senior leftist guerrilla commander Saturday in Colombia’s steamy southern savanna--and invited him to Wall Street for a firsthand look.

Richard Grasso met for 1 1/2 hours with Raul Reyes of the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia, or FARC, in the remote hamlet of La Machaca.

Grasso told reporters afterward that the surprise meeting, his first with a rebel chief, was intended to demonstrate to FARC leaders the support of the world financial community for Colombia’s fledgling peace process.

Stressing that his talks with a group that is on the State Department’s terrorist list were strictly private, Grasso said he hoped his visit “will mark the beginning of a new relationship between the FARC and the United States.”

He said he explained how Colombia would benefit from the increased global investment it could expect if nearly four decades of civil conflict can be ended.

Continues…

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1999-jun-27-mn-50699-story.html



For another take, the great Catherine Austin Fitts:



A Real World Example:

NYSE's Richard Grasso and the Ultimate New Business "Cold Call"


Lest you think that my comment about the New York Stock Exchange is too strong, let's look at one event that occurred before our "war on drugs" went into high gear through Plan Colombia, banging heads over narco dollar market share in Latin America.

In late June 1999, numerous news services, including Associated Press, reported that Richard Grasso, Chairman of the New York Stock Exchange flew to Colombia to meet with a spokesperson for Raul Reyes of the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Columbia (FARC), the supposed "narco terrorists" with whom we are now at war.

The purpose of the trip was "to bring a message of cooperation from U.S. financial services" and to discuss foreign investment and the future role of U.S. businesses in Colombia.

Some reading in between the lines said to me that Grasso's mission related to the continued circulation of cocaine capital through the US financial system. FARC, the Colombian rebels, were circulating their profits back into local development without the assistance of the American banking and investment system. Worse yet for the outlook for the US stock market's strength from $500 billion - $1 trillion in annual money laundering - FARC was calling for the decriminalization of cocaine.

Continues…

https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0202/S00069/the-real-deal-the-ultimate-new-business-cold-call.htm



Why? Cocaine? War? Power? Cash? Silly question. As George W Bush said, “Money trumps peace.”

peppertree

(22,850 posts)
29. Aileen, in fact, is a pro-dictatorship Latin American - the kind that believe in 'take no prisoners'
Tue Aug 8, 2023, 09:12 PM
Aug 2023

The GOP, as you know, has been actively trying to recruit RW Latin Americans for decades.

They like that no-holds-barred, anything-goes brand of politics that right-wingers from South-of-the-Border have long practiced - including the use of inquisitions, kangaroo courts, and (conversely) sweetheart judges for some.

That's where Aileen comes in.

If this were Hillary, Biden, or (especially) Obama standing before her - she'd throw the book at them faster than you can say Torquemada.

And as RW judges say in Argentina: "no proof - but no doubt."

orleans

(35,077 posts)
6. so... now we wait? ... nt
Tue Aug 8, 2023, 03:12 PM
Aug 2023

ancianita

(38,715 posts)
7. Not likely. Chutkan will probably issue her response today.
Tue Aug 8, 2023, 03:16 PM
Aug 2023

orleans

(35,077 posts)
8. hope so nt
Tue Aug 8, 2023, 03:18 PM
Aug 2023
 

MOMFUDSKI

(7,080 posts)
15. exactly when is the Judge going to BLOW?
Tue Aug 8, 2023, 04:00 PM
Aug 2023

they are just screwing with her now. She is starting to look not tough enough for this bunch - hat to say.

bluestarone

(18,299 posts)
9. Here's hoping the judge asks for TFG's lawyers COMPLETE schedule from a month ago until
Tue Aug 8, 2023, 03:18 PM
Aug 2023

Jan 2024.

ancianita

(38,715 posts)
10. Not realistic, since (I think) re SC motions, they might have other court dates yet to be decided.
Tue Aug 8, 2023, 03:21 PM
Aug 2023

EndlessWire

(7,265 posts)
11. I suppose the Judge
Tue Aug 8, 2023, 03:35 PM
Aug 2023

will always follow the written-in-stone procedures of her tribe, but I would think that it would not be wise to exhaust her patience so early in the procedures.

What did that one person say, somewhere? That if you can't get the work done by yourself, hire someone to help? Maybe you or I might not be able to just up and hire someone in addition to our main guys, but Trump has money and resources! Perhaps his reputation for not paying his crew proceeds him, but so what!

I wonder how long it will be before these current guys motion to withdraw. Can the Judge threaten them with sanctions for delay? This is a pattern, you know, where every motion that is filed will be followed by a request for delay. Everyone sees it and knows it.

Lonestarblue

(11,866 posts)
16. And then next week they'll ask for another delay because Frump has campaign rallies scheduled
Tue Aug 8, 2023, 04:00 PM
Aug 2023

or whatever he can think of to use as an excuse to delay more. I wish the judge would tell him either to find lawyers with the time to represent him or she’ll appoint a public defender.

Midnight Writer

(23,026 posts)
17. The fact that Trump is breaking the Judge's rules everyday argues for an immediate hearing.
Tue Aug 8, 2023, 04:03 PM
Aug 2023

If someone is violating a court order, you don't allow them to keep intentionally breaking the order while they intentionally delay the proceedings.

StarryNite

(10,867 posts)
20. Exactly!
Tue Aug 8, 2023, 04:09 PM
Aug 2023

StarryNite

(10,867 posts)
18. They shouldn't get yet another weekend to blab around
Tue Aug 8, 2023, 04:09 PM
Aug 2023

their BS.

marble falls

(62,351 posts)
21. Ummm .... NO!
Tue Aug 8, 2023, 04:23 PM
Aug 2023

Botany

(72,547 posts)
22. I already know Judge Chutkan's response.
Tue Aug 8, 2023, 04:41 PM
Aug 2023

No

JohnnyRingo

(19,344 posts)
23. This is more important than anything else they can be "busy" with..
Tue Aug 8, 2023, 04:47 PM
Aug 2023

This isn't a drunk driving charge.

Escurumbele

(3,623 posts)
24. This SOB good-for-nothing F&ing trump has the DOJ and the country hostage
Tue Aug 8, 2023, 04:52 PM
Aug 2023

I am so fed up of the DOJ and everyone else treating this f^&ing traitor with kid's gloves...When are they going to start treating him like he deserves, like a criminal and a traitor? He should be in jail already.

LetMyPeopleVote

(154,925 posts)
25. Judge Chutkan has set the next Trump case hearing for *Friday* at 10 am
Tue Aug 8, 2023, 04:58 PM
Aug 2023

moniss

(5,950 posts)
26. They want this so they can have
Tue Aug 8, 2023, 05:04 PM
Aug 2023

another week of doing their media barrage/framing and maybe getting some evidence they can twist to try and support their sham narrative of a defense. If the judge doesn't grant their delay I would not be surprised to see them appeal it.

C Moon

(12,583 posts)
27. So many here on DU predicted this.
Tue Aug 8, 2023, 05:24 PM
Aug 2023

LetMyPeopleVote

(154,925 posts)
28. Judge Chutkan is sending a clear message to team Trump: this is MY court, not yours.
Tue Aug 8, 2023, 05:30 PM
Aug 2023

This made me smile



https://www.meidastouch.com/news/judge-chutkan-smacks-down-trump-delay-attempt-sets-friday-hearing

Federal Judge Tanya Chutkan has clapped back at the delay efforts by Donald Trump by officially setting Friday as the date for a hearing on a DOJ protective order over discovery.

Chutkan's minute order officially sets the date and time of the hearing for Friday August 11, 2023 at 10 am, in a direct rebuke of defense counsel's claim they were not available that day.

After a day of back and forth filings, Chutkan had ordered both parties to submit possible dates for a hearing prior to August 11th.

In a joint notice in response to the court's August 7 minute order, Donald Trump's attorneys had proposed scheduling the hearing for Monday or Tuesday of next week.

zanana1

(6,298 posts)
30. Quelle surprise.
Wed Aug 9, 2023, 07:24 AM
Aug 2023

Lasher

(28,397 posts)
31. Locking
Wed Aug 9, 2023, 11:59 AM
Aug 2023

We think news of what the defense or prosecution says or files should be shared in the GD Forum and not in LBN.

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