Fri Jun 9, 2023, 11:09 AM
BumRushDaShow (118,561 posts)
George Santos files appeal to keep names of those who helped post $500,000 bond sealed
Source: CBS News
Washington — Rep. George Santos, Republican of New York, filed an 8-page appeal Friday seeking to keep sealed the names of those who helped him make the $500,000 bond in his federal criminal fraud case. Submitting the filing just before the noon deadline, Santos' lawyers argue that the people who helped him post the bond would likely have to withdraw from serving as his bond supporters if their names are released. This, Santos says, could force him into pre-trial detention or impose upon him onerous release conditions. The court filing includes a passage stating that Santos "has essentially publicly revealed that the suretors are family members and not lobbyists, donors or others seeking to exert influence over the Defendant." Santos's next court appearance is scheduled for June 30, but the judge could rule on whether to release the unsealed records at any time. The federal judge in New York granted a request from media organizations to make public the identities of three people who signed the bond for Santos' release after his indictment, but said their names should remain hidden for now to allow him to appeal. The consortium of media organizations sought the unsealing of the records, citing First Amendment and common law rights of access to the information. Read more: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/george-santos-appeal-keep-names-500000-bond-sealed/ Response taken from docket here - https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67358443/united-states-v-devolder-santos/ is here (PDF) - https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nyed.497086/gov.uscourts.nyed.497086.23.0_2.pdf
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BumRushDaShow | Jun 2023 | OP |
RandySF | Jun 2023 | #1 | |
PortTack | Jun 2023 | #2 | |
TwilightZone | Jun 2023 | #3 | |
PortTack | Jun 2023 | #21 | |
TwilightZone | Jun 2023 | #23 | |
PortTack | Jun 2023 | #25 | |
louis-t | Jun 2023 | #4 | |
BumRushDaShow | Jun 2023 | #5 | |
FSogol | Jun 2023 | #6 | |
IronLionZion | Jun 2023 | #7 | |
maxsolomon | Jun 2023 | #8 | |
mahatmakanejeeves | Jun 2023 | #9 | |
elias7 | Jun 2023 | #12 | |
Moosepoop | Jun 2023 | #10 | |
Cha | Jun 2023 | #29 | |
Lulu KC | Jun 2023 | #11 | |
bullimiami | Jun 2023 | #13 | |
Javaman | Jun 2023 | #14 | |
TlalocW | Jun 2023 | #15 | |
eggplant | Jun 2023 | #16 | |
Orrex | Jun 2023 | #17 | |
BumRushDaShow | Jun 2023 | #18 | |
Orrex | Jun 2023 | #19 | |
onenote | Jun 2023 | #20 | |
cstanleytech | Jun 2023 | #22 | |
PSPS | Jun 2023 | #24 | |
PortTack | Jun 2023 | #28 | |
Mawspam2 | Jun 2023 | #26 | |
SouthernDem4ever | Jun 2023 | #27 |
Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 11:11 AM
RandySF (51,416 posts)
1. He's gotta be mobbed up.
Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 11:13 AM
PortTack (30,745 posts)
2. I think it's mccarthy, mtg and that group. Who else wants him or needs him more, but would be
Harmed
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Response to PortTack (Reply #2)
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 11:17 AM
TwilightZone (22,211 posts)
3. I think it has to be worse than that.
That would be predictable and wouldn't really raise any eyebrows. Not sure that would be noteworthy enough to try to hide.
I think it's likely to be someone a lot more, well, objectionable. |
Response to TwilightZone (Reply #3)
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 06:52 PM
PortTack (30,745 posts)
21. Hummm..you're probably right! Hope we get to find out. He says it's his family..certainly not
Buying that!
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Response to PortTack (Reply #21)
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 08:40 PM
TwilightZone (22,211 posts)
23. Then again, "family" is often used in a mob context, right?
So, maybe it really is, uh...family! haha
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Response to TwilightZone (Reply #23)
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 01:27 AM
PortTack (30,745 posts)
25. Oh I bet you're right!
Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 11:17 AM
louis-t (22,742 posts)
4. I don't mind the appeals because it keeps
the story in the headlines.
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Response to louis-t (Reply #4)
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 11:21 AM
BumRushDaShow (118,561 posts)
5. LOL
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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 11:21 AM
FSogol (45,016 posts)
6. LOL, we aren't allowed to know who is paying criminals to be in our government.
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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 11:25 AM
IronLionZion (43,660 posts)
7. Yep, nothing suspicious about that
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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 11:27 AM
maxsolomon (31,465 posts)
8. Family members are normal bond suretors.
why would they need to withdraw if their names were revealed?
Delay delay delay. He's learned from his grifter idol. |
Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 11:29 AM
mahatmakanejeeves (54,115 posts)
9. That boy is so busy, how does he ever find time to be Pope? NT
Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 11:33 AM
Moosepoop (1,863 posts)
10. Talk about flip flopping...
Just the other day he said he'd rather have his bond removed and go to jail than have his suretors named.
But in his appeal... Submitting the filing just before the noon deadline, Santos' lawyers argue that the people who helped him post the bond would likely have to withdraw from serving as his bond supporters if their names are released. This, Santos says, could force him into pre-trial detention or impose upon him onerous release conditions.
So he's gone from "I'd rather go to jail!!" to "Don't make me go to jail!!" What a weenie. |
Response to Moosepoop (Reply #10)
Sun Jun 11, 2023, 01:27 AM
Cha (289,559 posts)
29. TY for that.. either way.. onerous lol
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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 11:39 AM
Lulu KC (2,442 posts)
11. "Family" members hmmmm n/t
Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 11:54 AM
bullimiami (12,777 posts)
13. Santos is a flagrant liar. His lawyers submitted documents to the court stating it was family?
If this proves false there should be serious consequences.
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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 11:55 AM
Javaman (61,825 posts)
14. Georgie is panicking because if those names get out
He’s fucked for any help.
They will kick his boat from the dock without any oars |
Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 12:07 PM
TlalocW (15,118 posts)
15. My guess as to who footed his bond?
Kanye. So I don't blame him for wanting to keep it secret.
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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 12:36 PM
eggplant (3,765 posts)
16. His "dead" mother's estate?
Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 01:30 PM
Orrex (62,727 posts)
17. Why is pretrial detention "onerous" for him?
It happens to citizens all the time.
Unless those citizens have shady patrons willing to foot the bill in secret, of course. |
Response to Orrex (Reply #17)
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 01:33 PM
BumRushDaShow (118,561 posts)
18. It would be "onerous" for Kevin McCarthy
if he lost 1 of the 5 votes that keeps them in the majority (although they aren't doing much at the moment given the loons have shut down the House and Kevvie sent them all home).
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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 03:30 PM
onenote (41,047 posts)
20. Weird citation in the letter from Santos' attorney. Not applicable.
First, this is not actually an "appeal" in the ordinary sense. It is a motion for the judge to whom the case is assigned to review and modify the decision of the magistrate judge that ordered the release of the identities of those who signed the bail bond. It is not an appeal brought to the appellate level court.
Second, while there are procedures for asking a judge to review and modify an order issued by a magistrate judge, the provision of law cited by Santos' letter is not applicable. He claims he is seeking modification of the order to release the names under 18 USC 3145(a )(2 ). Here is that provision: (a) Review of a Release Order.—If a person is ordered released by a magistrate judge, or by a person other than a judge of a court having original jurisdiction over the offense and other than a Federal appellate court— (1) the attorney for the Government may file, with the court having original jurisdiction over the offense, a motion for revocation of the order or amendment of the conditions of release; and (2) the person may file, with the court having original jurisdiction over the offense, a motion for amendment of the conditions of release. As you can see, the "release" to which this provision applies is the release of a person not the release of information. Hard to believe this lawyer didn't flunk out of law school -- and the law school he attended wasn't exactly top notch: CUNY School of Law, ranked 154th out of 196 law schools rated by US News and World Report. |
Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 07:16 PM
cstanleytech (25,409 posts)
22. If it's family members there is no need to protest it being released
which causes me to call bullshit on that.
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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 09:01 PM
PSPS (13,177 posts)
24. "family members and not lobbyists, donors or others seeking to exert influence over the Defendant"
The court filing includes a passage stating that Santos "has essentially publicly revealed that the suretors are family members and not lobbyists, donors or others seeking to exert influence over the Defendant."
Well, that certainly puts the issue to rest. After all, a nobel prize-winning former pope with such a deep history in academia would never lie! |
Response to PSPS (Reply #24)
Sun Jun 11, 2023, 01:06 AM
PortTack (30,745 posts)
28. Someone on TikTok suggested that it's possibly someone married and doesn't want a wife to know
That makes a lot of sense
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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 03:42 AM
Mawspam2 (577 posts)
26. Who wants to own a Congressman?
Phony Stark does not have one yet.
Harlan Crow to go with Clarence Thomas. John Malone needs exclusive content for CNN. The Winklevoss twins. Just because. George Soros, he owns everybody, am I right? |
Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 08:12 PM
SouthernDem4ever (4,513 posts)
27. thanks to repugs, this country is so Ef'd up
They ahole Kevin Mccarthy should have tried to get rid of him a long time ago. I don't care how much of the house he controls.
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