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Sat Jun 3, 2023, 10:59 PM

Grand jury in Trump classified documents case expected to meet this coming week after hiatus

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Source: NBC News

The federal grand jury that has been hearing evidence in the Justice Departmentís investigation of former President Donald Trumpís handling of classified documents is expected to meet again this coming week in Washington, according to multiple people familiar with the investigation.

Prosecutors working for Special Counsel Jack Smith have been presenting the grand jury with evidence and witness testimony for months, but activity appeared to have slowed in recent weeks based on observations at the courthouse and sources.

Itís unclear whether prosecutors are prepared to seek an indictment at this point. The Justice Department would not comment on the status of the investigation.


Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/grand-jury-trump-classified-documents-case-expected-meet-coming-week-h-rcna87599

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Reply Grand jury in Trump classified documents case expected to meet this coming week after hiatus (Original post)
jgo Jun 2023 OP
Ohio Joe Jun 2023 #1
sprinkleeninow Jun 2023 #2
H2O Man Jun 2023 #3
PlutosHeart Jun 2023 #7
H2O Man Jun 2023 #11
kentuck Jun 2023 #16
LudwigPastorius Jun 2023 #4
electric_blue68 Jun 2023 #5
drray23 Jun 2023 #6
ancianita Jun 2023 #8
BWdem4life Jun 2023 #9
Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2023 #14
democrank Jun 2023 #10
LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2023 #12
ShazzieB Jun 2023 #13
kentuck Jun 2023 #15
ashredux Jun 2023 #17
Novara Jun 2023 #18
JudyM Jun 2023 #19

Response to jgo (Original post)

Sat Jun 3, 2023, 11:08 PM

1. Interesting

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Response to jgo (Original post)

Sat Jun 3, 2023, 11:25 PM

2. Please.

🤞

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Response to jgo (Original post)

Sat Jun 3, 2023, 11:31 PM

3. Recommended.

I think they are ready to seek some of the indictments.

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #3)

Sat Jun 3, 2023, 11:42 PM

7. I agree. I think this is it.

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Response to PlutosHeart (Reply #7)

Sun Jun 4, 2023, 12:40 AM

11. In the time

between the grand jury meeting, it seems rather likely that Mr. Smith's team compiled a rough draft, evaluated what had at least a 95% likelihood of conviction, and fine-tuned it. It's to the point where there will continue to be investigating going on, but the DOJ is in a strong position, and the defendent in a weak one. More, Smith's team is growing stronger at the same rate the defendent's team is melting under pressure.

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #11)

Sun Jun 4, 2023, 07:04 AM

16. How often does a Grand Jury refuse to go along with recommendations of the prosecutors?

Has Jack Smith's team finally persuaded them to indict?

There is a time for everything under heaven.

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Response to jgo (Original post)

Sat Jun 3, 2023, 11:38 PM

4. Tick Tock...

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Response to jgo (Original post)

Sat Jun 3, 2023, 11:40 PM

5. 👀 🤞 soon? We need a Handcuffs Emoji! Ok, tweeking something I saw Q-+-Q oh found em!🔗

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We, sort of. 👍😄

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Response to jgo (Original post)

Sat Jun 3, 2023, 11:41 PM

6. So they are either voting on indicments

or else considering yet more crimes that were just uncovered. With Trump its hard to keep up.

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Response to jgo (Original post)

Sat Jun 3, 2023, 11:45 PM

8. Ready with champagne for the grand jury's decisions.

As the model prosecution memo by Weissman, Vance explains,

"Indeed, the DOJ is likely now, or shortly will be, internally circulating a pros memo of its own saying so. That DOJ memo will, however, be highly confidential, in part because it will contain information derived through the grand jury and attorney work product...given the gravity of the issues here, our memo provides a sense of how prosecutors will assemble and evaluate the considerations that they must assess before making a prosecution decision...."



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Response to jgo (Original post)

Sun Jun 4, 2023, 12:19 AM

9. Some states have a November deadline to get on the primary ballot

But realistically, it needs to happen before September 5 to avoid being less than 6 months before the first primary. After that it's happening "during primary season."

This better be the indictment.

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Response to BWdem4life (Reply #9)

Sun Jun 4, 2023, 06:02 AM

14. The only period DoJ is noting is the 60 days before the general election Nov 2024


There is no "six months" deadline, nor is there a prohibition against DoJ charging and other activities in any period other than that 60 days. That I'm aware of.

If you have a credible link, now would be a good time to post it.

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Response to jgo (Original post)

Sun Jun 4, 2023, 12:28 AM

10. Recommending with high hopes for indictments

and orders for several MAGA-style jumpsuits

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Response to jgo (Original post)

Sun Jun 4, 2023, 01:15 AM

12. This makes me smile

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Response to jgo (Original post)

Sun Jun 4, 2023, 02:08 AM

13. Oh please, please, please, please, please! 🙏





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Response to jgo (Original post)

Sun Jun 4, 2023, 06:34 AM

15. Very interesting.

Is the Grand Jury prepared to act? Are the prosecutors ready to seek an indictment?

Something appears to be in the works.

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Response to jgo (Original post)

Sun Jun 4, 2023, 07:48 AM

17. Fe Fi Fo Fum... I smell indictments for someone.

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Response to jgo (Original post)

Sun Jun 4, 2023, 08:52 AM

18. Speculation, speculation, speculation

It would be good to keep in mind that this sort of case takes a lot longer than anyone wants, it needs to be air tight (IIRC, if convicted of violating the Espionage Act, he can't be president - much is at stake here), and there can always be superseding indictments.

I am guessing (I am not a lawyer) that Jack Smith wants to ensure a very high probability for a conviction so he won't issue an indictment until he reaches that threshold, whatever that is.

It's possible that the GJ will hear evidence of further crimes that we are not yet aware of, and that will make the case even more air tight.

Or it's possible that they are ready to indict. We just don't know and all we can do is speculate, and all the "legal experts" are doing is the same speculation that we are doing, albeit with more legal experience.

One thing's for sure: this DOJ runs a very tight ship and they don't leak. The recent "leaks"? I believe they are purposeful, and designed to get public sentiment behind upcoming indictments. It's also possible that public leaks are to get witnesses to cooperate and make deals, but that might mean they aren't all that close to indictments, because they'd need to "turn" such people and then present that evidence to the GJ. Maybe that's what they are doing now.

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Response to jgo (Original post)

Sun Jun 4, 2023, 10:29 AM

19. Locking

Please post scheduling announcements in General Discussion.

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