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Sat Mar 25, 2023, 09:04 PM

House Republicans rebuke Bragg's 'unavailing' refusal to provide testimony on Trump probe

Source: The Hill

House Republican leaders on Saturday rebuked Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg’s (D) refusal to testify about his investigation into former President Trump’s role in a 2016 hush money payment.

The letter — from House Judiciary Committee Chair Jim Jordan (R-Ohio), House Administration Committee Chair Bryan Steil (R-Wis.) and House Oversight Committee Chair James Comer (R-Ky.) — comes in response to Bragg’s accusation on Thursday that their request was an “unlawful incursion” on his investigation.

“Your conclusory claim that our constitutional oversight responsibilities will interfere with law enforcement is misplaced and unconvincing,” the trio of Republican lawmakers said in their eight-page letter.

“As a threshold matter, whether your office is, in fact, fairly enforcing the law or abusing prosecutorial discretion to engage in a politically motivated indictment of a former President is a serious matter that … implicates significant federal interests,” the group added.

Read more: https://www.yahoo.com/news/house-republicans-rebuke-bragg-unavailing-213851842.html



It's unconvincing because they're fucking idiots.

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Reply House Republicans rebuke Bragg's 'unavailing' refusal to provide testimony on Trump probe (Original post)
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 25 OP
oasis Mar 25 #1
bahboo Mar 25 #2
Rizen Mar 25 #3
turbinetree Mar 25 #4
SpamWyzer Mar 25 #5
Shipwack Mar 26 #17
multigraincracker Mar 26 #18
VeryProgressive Mar 25 #6
BOSSHOG Mar 25 #7
GB_RN Mar 26 #20
HuskyOffset Mar 26 #21
GB_RN Mar 26 #23
bucolic_frolic Mar 25 #8
Bev54 Mar 25 #9
GB_RN Mar 26 #22
Ford_Prefect Mar 25 #10
WinstonSmith4740 Mar 25 #11
SouthernDem4ever Mar 25 #16
Mc Mike Mar 26 #30
DownriverDem Mar 25 #12
MichMan Mar 27 #37
50 Shades Of Blue Mar 25 #13
ashredux Mar 25 #14
tornado34jh Mar 25 #15
Novara Mar 26 #19
The Jungle 1 Mar 26 #24
Marthe48 Mar 26 #25
twodogsbarking Mar 26 #28
Joinfortmill Mar 26 #26
azureblue Mar 26 #27
SWBTATTReg Mar 26 #29
MichMan Mar 27 #38
paleotn Mar 26 #31
republianmushroom Mar 26 #32
keithbvadu2 Mar 26 #33
Initech Mar 26 #34
Martin68 Mar 26 #35
Writethinker Mar 26 #36

Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Sat Mar 25, 2023, 09:11 PM

1. Blow it out your ass Mr. Putin.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Sat Mar 25, 2023, 09:12 PM

2. fuck 'em...

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Sat Mar 25, 2023, 09:16 PM

3. Republicans are criminals.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Sat Mar 25, 2023, 09:20 PM

4. I thought these jerks were for "states rights'.......

....fucking idiots....maybe these jerks should bring in Stephanie Gregory Clifford.....

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Sat Mar 25, 2023, 09:24 PM

5. What they can do...

What, Exactly, Does Congress Have the Authority To Investigate?

Simply put, almost anything. Although the Constitution does not expressly authorize Congress to conduct investigations, Congress – and the courts – have long recognized that Congress has an inherent, constitutional prerogative to conduct investigations. In fact, the first congressional investigation occurred as early as 1792, when the House of Representatives convened a committee to investigate the defeat of General Arthur St. Clair in the Battle of the Wabash in what was then known as the Northwest Territory (and now known as Ohio).

Congress has the authority to conduct investigations “in aid of its legislative function.” That authority can extend to investigations for the purpose of deciding whether legislation is appropriate, to information gathering on matters of national importance, to oversight of federal departments and executive agencies. As a result, a congressional committee has broad discretion regarding both the scope of its investigation and the relevance of the information it requests.

Although congressional authority to investigate is broad, it is not unlimited. Because Congress’s authority to investigate is tied to its authority to legislate, limits on congressional investigations are necessarily linked to the limits on Congress’s constitutional authority. For example, Congress has no general authority to investigate the purely private affair of an ordinary citizen.

The doctrine of separation of powers also places limits on congressional authority to investigate. Congress cannot, under the guise of an investigation, usurp the power of another branch of government. It cannot investigate matters where the means of redress is purely judicial. Nor can Congress investigate matters committed to the President’s discretion. For example, Congress could not undertake an investigation to determine an individual’s entitlement to a pardon because the Constitution granted the pardon power to the President, not Congress.

While Congress can investigate conduct that may be criminal, Congress itself lacks the authority to bring criminal charges or otherwise initiate a criminal prosecution. If a congressional investigation uncovers evidence of criminal activity, however, Congress may refer the matter to the Department of Justice for investigation and, potentially, prosecution. Sometimes, the DOJ investigation predates the congressional investigation. No matter which branch of government moves first to investigate, however, the end result is that a congressional investigation often will run parallel to a criminal investigation. As a result, evidence developed in a congressional investigation might be used by the DOJ in its criminal investigation or in a prosecution.

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Response to SpamWyzer (Reply #5)

Sun Mar 26, 2023, 01:51 AM

17. They have -nothing- to investigate, yet they still complain.

They complain that his charges are overbroad and are politically motivated when no indictments have been made.

They have shown their bias and lack of seriousness. They should be ignored until the adults have finished their work.

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Response to SpamWyzer (Reply #5)

Sun Mar 26, 2023, 05:02 AM

18. 3 equal branches of our government.

But Jim thinks Congress is more equal.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Sat Mar 25, 2023, 09:26 PM

6. Go Pound Sand

“Your conclusory claim that our constitutional oversight responsibilities will interfere with law enforcement is misplaced and unconvincing,”
He should respond that I am not trying to convince you. This isn't an argument. Obviously, you idiots can't understand plain English.

As a threshold matter, whether your office is, in fact, fairly enforcing the law or abusing prosecutorial discretion to engage in a politically motivated indictment of a former President is a serious matter that … implicates significant federal interests,”

It would be serious matter, if true, but ultimately the decision of whether Trump has received a fair hearing is determined by the courts, not by political hacks. That's why there are appeals courts. So, once again, fuck off and pound sand.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Sat Mar 25, 2023, 09:39 PM

7. More proof that lawyers with integrity

DO NOT WORK FOR THE REPUBLICAN PARTY! I think we have enough proof of that. But ole gymbo and his posse are still humping for trump, or as Stormy likes to call him, TINY.

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Response to BOSSHOG (Reply #7)

Sun Mar 26, 2023, 08:32 AM

20. Only One Of Those 3 Has A Law Degree...

And believe it or not, that’s Gym Jordan. However, he failed to take (or failed) the Bar Exam, so he’s not a lawyer. Further, he didn’t go to a top tier law school. Add in the fact that he probably suffered more than a few blows to the head during his wrestling career. What do you get? Certainly no one that I’d trust to interpret a parking ticket, much less constitutional law.

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Response to GB_RN (Reply #20)

Sun Mar 26, 2023, 08:37 AM

21. But...but...but...he took his jacket off & everything...(NT)

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Response to HuskyOffset (Reply #21)

Sun Mar 26, 2023, 08:40 AM

23. Yeah...

Good ole Jacketoff Gym Jordan (R-Molester Protector). What a fuckstick.🙄😂

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Sat Mar 25, 2023, 09:46 PM

8. Totally political and everyone knows it

Congress never goes there. Until these clowns showed up.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Sat Mar 25, 2023, 09:54 PM

9. Keep it up assholes, hope to see you all charged with obstruction.

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Response to Bev54 (Reply #9)

Sun Mar 26, 2023, 08:38 AM

22. I Would Love To See That...

But unlikely to happen. The Speech-Debate Clause would cover their asses on this one.

At worst, they issue a subpoena, Bragg refuses, it goes to court and by the time it’s over (years and appeals later), tRump’s case has already been dealt with, which would render the subpoena moot. And that assumes that Jacketoff Gym Jordan (R-Molester Protector) is still chair of the committee.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Sat Mar 25, 2023, 10:14 PM

10. The authority for examining state investigations is held by the state supreme court and

The AG for that state. The US Congress has NO right of interference in an ongoing state investigation.

If there is a specific charge made of incorrect prosecution, and the state does not respond, then Congress may have cause to investigate. They have no right of prior restraint, and lacking evidence of a crime they have no cause to look for one. No more than the DOJ may do.

IMO the idiots who are bloviating over this have no clue how an investigation, a grand jury, or a state level prosecution operates. They presume to pursue an alleged wrong-doing when the have no evidence, and no standing to bring suit against the prosecutor.

This is straight up intimidation with no purpose except to delay.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Sat Mar 25, 2023, 10:22 PM

11. Can't wait for Jordan to subpeona him.

Gonna love to see his reaction when he's told to go pound sand and Ted Lieu, along with every Democratic member of the House, reminds him (again) that he blew the J6 committee subpeona off.

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Response to WinstonSmith4740 (Reply #11)

Sat Mar 25, 2023, 11:55 PM

16. GOP Hypocrisy has no limits

They no longer even care how dumb or ineffective they look.

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Response to WinstonSmith4740 (Reply #11)

Sun Mar 26, 2023, 10:49 AM

30. Great point, Winston.

100% agree.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Sat Mar 25, 2023, 10:59 PM

12. It's an active

investigation. repubs need to get bent.

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Response to DownriverDem (Reply #12)

Mon Mar 27, 2023, 01:28 PM

37. Not relevant apparently

Last edited Mon Mar 27, 2023, 02:07 PM - Edit history (1)

The January 6th investigation was ongoing when that was investigated by Congress.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Sat Mar 25, 2023, 11:06 PM

13. Futile attempt to preserve their nonexistent dignity!

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Sat Mar 25, 2023, 11:11 PM

14. It's becoming obvious that these folks are really not that bright

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Sat Mar 25, 2023, 11:14 PM

15. And it wasn't political when they are doing the same with Hilary Clinton and Joe Biden?

Total hypocrites.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Sun Mar 26, 2023, 08:07 AM

19. He doesn't answer to you motherfuckers.

You all need to read the fucking Constitution and what it says you actually have jurisdiction over. Hint: it ain't the Manhattan DA.

Oh, and pay close attention to the 10th Amendment, motherfuckers.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Sun Mar 26, 2023, 09:16 AM

24. He should agree. Get a date and time.

Then just don't show up.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Sun Mar 26, 2023, 09:19 AM

25. Dolts!

3 stooges, that aren't funny.

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Response to Marthe48 (Reply #25)

Sun Mar 26, 2023, 09:43 AM

28. Or smart.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Sun Mar 26, 2023, 09:24 AM

26. 'conclusory'. Had to look that one up.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Sun Mar 26, 2023, 09:41 AM

27. when they explain why

they refused to show up when subpoenaed, then maybe we will listen to them. Hey Jim, you refused a subpoena, so sit down and shut up.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Sun Mar 26, 2023, 10:33 AM

29. Well, Bragg is right, that they have no authority interfering w/ an ongoing investigation,

plus, if he wants to be snippy w/ the house repug leaders, he can tie everything to everything trump does, if trump files a lawsuit, then he files a lawsuit, if trump does action A, then Bragg does action A too. Tit for tat, I'd say. I'd think that this would upset the repug house members, but who cares?

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Response to SWBTATTReg (Reply #29)

Mon Mar 27, 2023, 01:48 PM

38. How did the last congress have the authority to investigate January 6, then ?

That investigation was ongoing by the DOJ.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Sun Mar 26, 2023, 11:08 AM

31. Fuck off, Repukes.

When they have the power to actually enforce their bullshit, that's when Bragg will comply. Currently, they're impotent.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Sun Mar 26, 2023, 12:25 PM

32. Gym jim go suck up to trump some more.

26 months and counting

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Sun Mar 26, 2023, 12:54 PM

33. Didn't Gym Jordan have an issue about testifying?

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Sun Mar 26, 2023, 03:01 PM

34. This is a political hit job by the MAGAs and that's about it.

No answer he gives will be satisfactory to them. The MAGAs are totally psychotic and out of control.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Sun Mar 26, 2023, 05:34 PM

35. Suck it up, Trumpists! You can whine all you want, the law is on Bragg's side. Unlike all the

Trump aides, etc who refused to testify, went to court to overturn subpoenas, and still had to testify because the law is not on their side.

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