Sat Mar 25, 2023, 08:27 AM
Omaha Steve (93,585 posts)
Pope expands sex abuse law, reaffirms adults can be victims
Source: AP
By NICOLE WINFIELD 36 minutes ago VATICAN CITY (AP) — Pope Francis on Saturday updated a 2019 church law aimed at holding senior churchmen accountable for covering up cases of sex abuse, expanding it to cover lay Catholic leaders and reaffirming that vulnerable adults can also be victims of abuse when they are unable to consent. Francis reaffirmed and made permanent the temporary provisions of the 2019 law that were passed in a moment of crisis for the Vatican and Catholic hierarchy. That law had been praised at the time for laying out precise mechanisms to investigate complicit bishops and religious superiors, but its implementation has been uneven and the Vatican has been criticized by abuse survivors for continued lack of transparency about the cases. The new rules conform to other changes in the Catholic Church’s handling of abuse that have been issued since then. Most significantly, they are expanded to cover leaders of Vatican-approved associations headed by lay leaders, not just clerics. That is a response to the many cases that have come to light in recent years of lay leaders abusing their authority to sexually exploit people under their spiritual care or authority. They also reaffirm that even adults can be victims of predator priests, such as nuns or seminarians who are dependent on their bishops or superiors. Church law previously considered that only adults who “habitually” lack the use of reason can be considered victims alongside minors. ![]() Read more: https://apnews.com/article/vatican-sex-abuse-c4ac42e675a121784cb8d7ea6afd61a2
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Omaha Steve | Mar 25 | OP |
spike jones | Mar 25 | #1 | |
spike jones | Mar 25 | #3 | |
MayReasonRule | Mar 25 | #5 | |
spike jones | Mar 25 | #9 | |
MayReasonRule | Mar 25 | #11 | |
MayReasonRule | Mar 25 | #4 | |
MayReasonRule | Mar 25 | #2 | |
Marthe48 | Mar 25 | #6 | |
MayReasonRule | Mar 25 | #12 | |
NullTuples | Mar 25 | #7 | |
Farmer-Rick | Mar 25 | #8 | |
spike jones | Mar 25 | #10 | |
MayReasonRule | Mar 25 | #13 | |
MayReasonRule | Mar 25 | #14 | |
MayReasonRule | Mar 26 | #16 | |
Warpy | Mar 25 | #15 | |
MayReasonRule | Mar 26 | #17 | |
twodogsbarking | Mar 26 | #18 |
Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)
Sat Mar 25, 2023, 09:04 AM
spike jones (1,364 posts)
1. on the other hand there is this.
[link:https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/a-retired-priest-pushed-to-require-clergy-to-report-sex-abuse-confessions-now-hes-banned-from-taking-confession/ar-AA1933js|
It is all just more religious BS. |
Response to spike jones (Reply #1)
Sat Mar 25, 2023, 09:08 AM
spike jones (1,364 posts)
3. Fight the real enemy.
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Response to spike jones (Reply #3)
Sat Mar 25, 2023, 09:32 AM
MayReasonRule (929 posts)
5. Goddamn Right!
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Response to MayReasonRule (Reply #5)
Sat Mar 25, 2023, 01:53 PM
spike jones (1,364 posts)
9. There is a reason his announcements are called Popal Bulls. n/t
Response to spike jones (Reply #9)
Sat Mar 25, 2023, 03:00 PM
MayReasonRule (929 posts)
11. That's right!!! Through and through!
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Response to spike jones (Reply #1)
Sat Mar 25, 2023, 09:30 AM
MayReasonRule (929 posts)
4. Our Nation Enshrines "Closely Held Beliefs" Regarding Religious Bull Shit As The Rule Of Law
Genitals and Closely Held Beliefs have this in common...
It's okay to have them, it's okay to hold them closely.
It is not okay to shove them down other people's throats. The United States of America is in the middle of it's own Spanish Inquisition Y'all Qaeda style, courtesy of the Nat-C GOP fascists. May reason rule. |
Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)
Sat Mar 25, 2023, 09:07 AM
MayReasonRule (929 posts)
2. Nationalist "Christian" Leader of "Christian" Nation-State Glosses Over Systemic Sexual Assaults
![]() Inculcation is the name of that game. Depravity is the nature of the same. May reason rule. |
Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)
Sat Mar 25, 2023, 09:43 AM
Marthe48 (13,092 posts)
6. Analogy
Celebate clergy dictate to their followers rules about sex and reproduction without personal experience, unless they break their own rules.
The unelected rightwing fascist majority on the (formerly) supreme court of the U.S. decides what laws on sex and reproductive rights are Constitutional, by breaking the Constitution to force their narrowminded views on the majority of the people. |
Response to Marthe48 (Reply #6)
Sat Mar 25, 2023, 03:06 PM
MayReasonRule (929 posts)
12. Literally & Tragically Dead On Point
Fascism employs three basic methodologies.
Intimidation
Incarceration
Extermination
They are considered the "featured benefits", as each "removes" anyone or anything that dare oppose their depravity. This, is that. |
Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)
Sat Mar 25, 2023, 11:00 AM
NullTuples (6,017 posts)
7. Does it mandate turning them over to local law enforcement with all info gathered, or not?
Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)
Sat Mar 25, 2023, 11:08 AM
Farmer-Rick (8,777 posts)
8. If religious and secular laws mattered, then children wouldn't be raped by priests
There are/were laws (both secular and religious) on the books against child rape when the priests were doing it regularly to children. It didn't seem to stop them.
I doubt the Pope's laws will matter much to those who rape children or to those who support child raping priests. A little too little too late. Child rape has already been inculcated into the priesthood and in most other religions. I don't understand it, but it seems to be rampant in most religions. |
Response to Farmer-Rick (Reply #8)
Sat Mar 25, 2023, 01:58 PM
spike jones (1,364 posts)
10. That started with Mary mother of Jesus, she was twelve when "visted " by the holy ghoast. n/t
Response to spike jones (Reply #10)
Sat Mar 25, 2023, 03:15 PM
MayReasonRule (929 posts)
13. Pedophiliac "Godly" Incestuous Genocidal Machiavellian Barbarity
These are behaviors to not be embraced as a pattern for society.
Those are the patterns of depravity, no matter the name. FFS!! We agree. May reason rule. |
Response to Farmer-Rick (Reply #8)
Sat Mar 25, 2023, 03:16 PM
MayReasonRule (929 posts)
14. That's precisely what I've seen as well
I'm 60.
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Response to Farmer-Rick (Reply #8)
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 07:54 AM
MayReasonRule (929 posts)
16. Those Inculcated - "Hymned In" By Sexual Shame & Fear of "Hell" Act Out The "Sins Of The Ages"
There's no easy way for a hardcore believer, when they "trust" in the schemes of the fools and the dreamers.
Giving up one's "suicidal sainthood" and stopping the ongoing promulgation of pain requires embracing doubt. Those that embrace "faith" reject doubt thereby embracing falsehoods a.k.a. delusion. Doubt is the "enemy" of 'faith because it brings one to "reason" thus rejecting the delusion of "faith" This is why I say that doubt is my "savior", and reason is my "god". This is also why my desire is for reason to rule. ![]() |
Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)
Sat Mar 25, 2023, 08:50 PM
Warpy (107,394 posts)
15. He still hasn't admitted their primary victims over the last nearly 2000 years
Women.
Come on, man, you can say the word. You can even say it in Latin, we'll understand. Just admit it. Yes, they were all victims, taught to hold a priest in superstitious awe, usually much younger and weaker, they didn't dare refuse and if they tried, they couldn't make it stick. Women. Practice it in the mirror enough times, you might get it out without choking on it. |
Response to Warpy (Reply #15)
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 08:03 AM
MayReasonRule (929 posts)
17. I Agree Warpy - "Superstitious Awe" as You've So Aptly Characterized Allows Each Subsequent Abuse
------- ...in the name of "God" of course...-------
There's not a goddamned thing that's "godly" about it, unless of course it mirrors a "god' that's a malevolently barbaric genocidal pedophile. Huh, well whaddaya know... Turns out it is "godly" as those shoes fit YAHWEH precisely. ![]() May reason rule. |
Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 08:15 AM
twodogsbarking (6,449 posts)