Fri Mar 24, 2023, 11:34 PM
Wicked Blue (5,332 posts)
2 dead, at least 9 unaccounted for after explosion rocks Pennsylvania chocolate factoryLast edited Sat Mar 25, 2023, 06:56 PM - Edit history (3)
Source: NBC News
By Kurt Chirbas and Tim Stelloh Two people are dead and at least nine are unaccounted for after an explosion rocked a chocolate factory in Pennsylvania on Friday, authorities said. Between six and eight people were also taken for medical attention in the blast at R.M. Palmer Company in West Reading, 63 miles northwest of Philadelphia, a spokesperson for the Pennsylvania Emergency Management Agency said. A spokeswoman for Reading Hospital said eight people were brought to the facility. One was transferred, two were in fair condition and the others were released, said the spokeswoman, Jessica Belzer, of Tower Health. The cause of the blast was unclear. The company did not immediately respond to a request for comment. ![]() Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/2-dead-7-missing-explosion-rocks-pennsylvania-chocolate-factory-rcna76640 UPDATE from NBC Updated March 25, 2023, 12:01 PM EDT 2 dead and 5 unaccounted for after explosion rocks Pennsylvania chocolate factory Two people are confirmed dead after an explosion rocked a chocolate factory in Pennsylvania, officials said Saturday morning after initially saying that five people had been killed in the explosion. The Pennsylvania Emergency Management Agency had said in a tweet that Berks County had reported five deaths following a blast Friday at R.M. Palmer Company in West Reading, around 63 miles northwest of Philadelphia. But Mayor Samantha Kaag said that number was inaccurate and two had been killed. Five others remain missing and one person was rescued overnight. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/2-dead-7-missing-explosion-rocks-pennsylvania-chocolate-factory-rcna76640
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Wicked Blue | Mar 24 | OP |
dem4decades | Mar 24 | #1 | |
Tanuki | Mar 25 | #8 | |
TreasonousBastard | Mar 24 | #2 | |
maxsolomon | Mar 28 | #28 | |
ProfessorGAC | Mar 28 | #29 | |
maxsolomon | Mar 30 | #31 | |
ProfessorGAC | Mar 30 | #32 | |
YoshidaYui | Mar 25 | #3 | |
cstanleytech | Mar 25 | #4 | |
ZonkerHarris | Mar 25 | #5 | |
C Moon | Mar 25 | #6 | |
Captain Zero | Mar 25 | #7 | |
YoshidaYui | Mar 25 | #18 | |
halfulglas | Mar 25 | #9 | |
mopinko | Mar 25 | #13 | |
lapfog_1 | Mar 25 | #10 | |
Better Days Ahoy | Mar 25 | #11 | |
halfulglas | Mar 25 | #14 | |
LisaM | Mar 25 | #19 | |
Better Days Ahoy | Mar 26 | #22 | |
DownriverDem | Mar 25 | #12 | |
The Jungle 1 | Mar 25 | #15 | |
Farmer-Rick | Mar 25 | #16 | |
jmowreader | Mar 27 | #26 | |
ProfessorGAC | Mar 28 | #30 | |
The Jungle 1 | Mar 25 | #17 | |
LisaM | Mar 25 | #20 | |
colorado_ufo | Mar 25 | #21 | |
tclambert | Mar 26 | #23 | |
mahatmakanejeeves | Mar 27 | #24 | |
mahatmakanejeeves | Mar 27 | #25 | |
Wicked Blue | Mar 27 | #27 |
Response to Wicked Blue (Original post)
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 11:43 PM
dem4decades (10,522 posts)
1. Terrible, chocolate is supposed to be fun, not deadly.
Response to dem4decades (Reply #1)
Sat Mar 25, 2023, 01:56 AM
Tanuki (14,450 posts)
8. Yes, this loss of life would be tragic under any circumstance
but something about this feels especially sad, since the victims were involved in creating a product meant to bring smiles and happiness.
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Response to Wicked Blue (Original post)
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 11:49 PM
TreasonousBastard (42,428 posts)
2. Gas leak suspected at RM Palmer, maker of holiday specialty candy.
Response to TreasonousBastard (Reply #2)
Tue Mar 28, 2023, 01:58 PM
maxsolomon (30,650 posts)
28. When the building is flat out gone, that's usually the cause.
One spark...
RIP Chocolate Makers. An honorable profession. |
Response to maxsolomon (Reply #28)
Tue Mar 28, 2023, 07:38 PM
ProfessorGAC (59,155 posts)
29. Or Sugar Dust
To whit:
https://www.csb.gov/imperial-sugar-company-dust-explosion-and-fire/ I was on a technical review team of this to determine is the dust could reasonably account for this degree of damage. Every member of the team agreed it was, in fact the sugar dust. Take a look at that aerial shot. There is literally a building missing. |
Response to ProfessorGAC (Reply #29)
Thu Mar 30, 2023, 11:47 AM
maxsolomon (30,650 posts)
31. nuts if that was the cause.
thanks!
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Response to maxsolomon (Reply #31)
Thu Mar 30, 2023, 01:20 PM
ProfessorGAC (59,155 posts)
32. It Definitely Was
The thermodynamics showed it was easily possible & highly probable.
Anything thing that has a high combustion velocity, finely divided, with copious oxygen can explode. I worked with lots of dangerous chemicals over time & sugar wouldn't have been on my list. Until 2008! |
Response to Wicked Blue (Original post)
Sat Mar 25, 2023, 12:24 AM
YoshidaYui (40,725 posts)
3. I maybe wrong but the only Chocolate factory in PA i know of is
Hershey's... i know cause I toured there once!!
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Response to YoshidaYui (Reply #3)
Sat Mar 25, 2023, 12:34 AM
cstanleytech (24,989 posts)
4. Apparently there are a number of others
Response to cstanleytech (Reply #4)
Sat Mar 25, 2023, 12:54 AM
ZonkerHarris (22,770 posts)
5. PA is the Silicon Valley of Snack Food. Candy, chips, pretzels. It's ground zero
partly because of Milton Hershey
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Response to YoshidaYui (Reply #3)
Sat Mar 25, 2023, 01:14 AM
C Moon (11,573 posts)
6. It says "R.M. Palmer Company"
Response to C Moon (Reply #6)
Sat Mar 25, 2023, 01:27 AM
Captain Zero (5,693 posts)
7. Geez...9 unaccounted for?
On top of dead and injured.
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Response to C Moon (Reply #6)
Sat Mar 25, 2023, 03:29 PM
YoshidaYui (40,725 posts)
18. GOOD,
not Hersey's then.
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Response to Wicked Blue (Original post)
Sat Mar 25, 2023, 02:02 AM
halfulglas (1,576 posts)
9. Big season, making chocolate Easter bunnies and eggs before the summer slowdown.
Summer candy doesn't usually sell as much because of the heat and melting but candymakers big seasons are Easter, Christmas and Valentine's day. Working the machinery overtime as well as the employees.
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Response to halfulglas (Reply #9)
Sat Mar 25, 2023, 11:22 AM
mopinko (67,269 posts)
13. humidity is a killer, too.
long, long ago i worked in a koolaid factory. they’d have to shut down in august most years. and lost many days when there was a lot of rain.
sugar is a very interesting chemical. |
Response to Wicked Blue (Original post)
Sat Mar 25, 2023, 02:18 AM
lapfog_1 (27,904 posts)
10. big natch of pop rocks crushed accidently?
Response to Wicked Blue (Original post)
Sat Mar 25, 2023, 07:31 AM
Better Days Ahoy (693 posts)
11. Hershey's Chocolates outsources much of its products
To third party chocolate makers in PA and elsewhere.
The R.M. Palmer Co. could be one of them or make its own for sale under its own brands. Hershey's factory in Hershey, PA, is a showplace but doesn't produce the lion's share of its branded products. |
Response to Better Days Ahoy (Reply #11)
Sat Mar 25, 2023, 12:20 PM
halfulglas (1,576 posts)
14. Palmer definitely markets under its own brand here in Maryland.
Bought especially for Easter baskets and Christmas candy for the kids, where the quantity mattered more than the quality. They specialize more in the molded hollow shapes than the more expensive brands, but the kids think they are adorable.
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Response to Better Days Ahoy (Reply #11)
Sat Mar 25, 2023, 03:41 PM
LisaM (27,231 posts)
19. We went to the Hershey factory when I was a kid.
I remember particularly that they told us it was the last year there would be real chocolate in the vats and that the next year they would have an artificial substitute.
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Response to LisaM (Reply #19)
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 07:07 PM
Better Days Ahoy (693 posts)
22. Aww, shucks.
Surprised they told you that. I went to Hershey, PA, well into adulthood. Still loved it.
What is it about chocolate? 😁 |
Response to Wicked Blue (Original post)
Sat Mar 25, 2023, 10:19 AM
DownriverDem (5,871 posts)
12. Wow.
The explosion leveled the building. Chocolate factories are pretty common in PA. My family moved to Reading from Bethlehem a long time ago. Then they moved to Michigan for better work in the 1930s. Visited Reading when I was a kid. How sad.
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Response to Wicked Blue (Original post)
Sat Mar 25, 2023, 12:25 PM
The Jungle 1 (4,243 posts)
15. 5 dead at this point.
Response to Wicked Blue (Original post)
Sat Mar 25, 2023, 12:39 PM
Farmer-Rick (8,777 posts)
16. It could be a sugar or cocoa dust explosion
Those dusts are very flammable and if proper safety procedures or ventilation are not functioning, it can lead to explosions.
There was a 2015 KY sugar dust fire "Northern Kentucky firefighters battled a large fire at the Perfetti Van Melle USA factory in Erlanger on Friday morning." https://www.wcpo.com/news/local-news/kenton-county/erlanger/fire-breaks-out-at-perfetti-van-melle-factory-in-erlanger There are cocoa dust fires too. https://www.wcpo.com/news/local-news/kenton-county/erlanger/fire-breaks-out-at-perfetti-van-melle-factory-in-erlanger That was an Illinois 2018 chocolate cake mix fire started by a spark from a fan. You don't think about how foods can be flammable but I suspect most any dust allowed to accumulate to excess levels could be flammable, except for maybe Asbestosis. |
Response to Farmer-Rick (Reply #16)
Mon Mar 27, 2023, 07:16 AM
jmowreader (49,387 posts)
26. In the 1970s in the Pacific Northwest we averaged one to two grain elevator explosions per year
I think you're onto something: that factory looks a lot like an elevator after a dust explosion.
This is a video about a sugar dust explosion: &t=355s |
Response to Farmer-Rick (Reply #16)
Tue Mar 28, 2023, 07:39 PM
ProfessorGAC (59,155 posts)
30. See My Post #29
Sugar dust explosion. Killed 14 people.
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Response to Wicked Blue (Original post)
Sat Mar 25, 2023, 12:41 PM
The Jungle 1 (4,243 posts)
17. Just so we are all on the same page and understand how chocolate is produced.
70% of coco comes from west Africa. There is a lot of human trafficking of child labor including child slavery
https://www.slavefreechocolate.org/ethical-chocolate-companies Palmer Co. is not on this list of ethical producers! |
Response to Wicked Blue (Original post)
Sat Mar 25, 2023, 03:42 PM
LisaM (27,231 posts)
20. Gas appliances scare me.
Last edited Sun Mar 26, 2023, 12:02 PM - Edit history (1) I know people like cooking with gas stoves but I have never noticed a big enough difference to justify what I consider a danger.
Wasn't it in Pennsylvania where a few houses just blew up a few years ago? |
Response to LisaM (Reply #20)
Sat Mar 25, 2023, 10:55 PM
colorado_ufo (5,478 posts)
21. I grew up with gas and will never have it again.
There have been many homes, businesses, and even whole city blocks leveled from gas explosions. There is always a small amount of gas in the air from pilot lights, etc. It is definitely unhealthy.
I always looked forward to Palmer Easter bunnies, because they used natural vanilla in their chocolate. I have a bad allergy to artificial vanilla and cannot eat anything with it. I think Hershey's has finally come around, but I have not eaten it for years because of what they put in their chocolate. |
Response to Wicked Blue (Original post)
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 10:20 PM
tclambert (10,990 posts)
23. The guys at the Peeps factory were looking awful satisfied.
Response to tclambert (Reply #23)
Mon Mar 27, 2023, 06:52 AM
mahatmakanejeeves (52,156 posts)
24. Sheesh, what an thoughtless post.
tclambert (10,967 posts)
23. The guys at the Peeps factory were looking awful satisfied. |
Response to Wicked Blue (Original post)
Mon Mar 27, 2023, 06:57 AM
mahatmakanejeeves (52,156 posts)
25. Death toll has risen to 7 in West Reading chocolate factory explosion; final missing believed found
NEWS
Death toll has risen to 7 in West Reading chocolate factory explosion; final missing believed to have been found The cause of the explosion is still under investigation. by Ximena Conde Updated on Mar 26, 2023, 10:54 p.m. ET WEST READING, Pa. — Almost 48 hours after an explosion at the R.M. Palmer chocolate factory in Berks County, all Frankie Gonzalez and his family could do on Sunday was pray. Pray that his sister Diana Cedeno, one of the people still missing Sunday morning, was found in the wreckage. Pray that the families of those confirmed dead could find some solace. Pray for those who survived. Congregants at Sacred Heart Roman Catholic Parish at the edge of West Reading echoed Gonzalez’s prayers. ... “West Reading is a small town and everyone is wondering what they could do to help,” Natalie Parisi, 55, said after the service. By Sunday night, the hope for survivors came to an end, the death toll having risen to seven. The final bodies pulled from the debris were believed to be unaccounted for workers, according to authorities. {snip} |
Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Reply #25)
Mon Mar 27, 2023, 09:07 AM
Wicked Blue (5,332 posts)
27. Oh hell, so many dead, so many injured
and everybody else jobless
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