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BumRushDaShow

(128,527 posts)
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 12:12 PM Mar 2023

Meadows, other top Trump aides ordered to testify in Jan. 6 probe as judge rejects claims

Source: ABC News

A federal judge has rejected former President Donald Trump's claims of executive privilege and has ordered Mark Meadows and other former top aides to testify before a federal grand jury investigating Trump's efforts to overturn the election leading up to the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol, multiple sources familiar with the matter tell ABC News.

Meadows, Trump's former chief of staff, was subpoenaed along with the other former aides by Special counsel Jack Smith for testimony and documents related to the probe. Trump's legal team had challenged the subpoenas by asserting executive privilege, which is the right of a president to keep confidential the communications he has with advisers.

In a sealed order last week, Judge Beryl Howell rejected Trump's claim of executive privilege for Meadows and a number of others, including Trump's former Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe, his former national security adviser Robert O'Brien, former top aide Stephen Miller, and former deputy chief of staff and social media director Dan Scavino, according to sources familiar with the matter.

Former Trump aides Nick Luna and John McEntee, along with former top DHS official Ken Cuccinelli, were also included in the order, the sources said. Trump is likely to appeal the ruling, according to sources briefed on the matter. A spokesperson for Trump did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Read more: https://abcnews.go.com/US/meadows-top-trump-aides-ordered-testify-jan-6/story?id=98101813



Full headline: Meadows, other top Trump aides ordered to testify in Jan. 6 probe as judge rejects claims of executive privilege

Kyle Cheney had tweeted something earlier this morning about another sealed order that had come out around the time that Corcoran was ordered to testify and they were unsure who/what it referenced. I expect it may have to do with this OP.




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UPDATE: Corcoran has now entered the grand jury space of the courthouse for his anticipated testimony in the Trump documents case
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SIDE NOTE: Yesterday, the same appeals court panel that rejected efforts to block Corcoran's testimony made an identical ruling in another sealed case that we have yet to identify.

It's a stored communication (phone/email) case that Howell decided on March 3.
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Meadows, other top Trump aides ordered to testify in Jan. 6 probe as judge rejects claims (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Mar 2023 OP
YES!! Biophilic Mar 2023 #1
good republianmushroom Mar 2023 #2
Now that brought a smile to my wrinkled old face Walleye Mar 2023 #3
Trump's EP claims have already been ruled on by SCOTUS Fiendish Thingy Mar 2023 #4
THE COOCH!!! 😃 underpants Mar 2023 #5
He's like an Olde West bank robber retreating to the hills after every heist bucolic_frolic Mar 2023 #6
This is great news! MN2theMax Mar 2023 #7
Appeal to Circuit Panel, appeal to full Circuit, appeal to SCOTUS maxsolomon Mar 2023 #8
In the tweet in the OP comments was this BumRushDaShow Mar 2023 #10
The dance of the guilty Fullduplexxx Mar 2023 #11
Meadows will hang trump Bayard Mar 2023 #9
I hope so. I wonder if we will ever know. depositions remain sealed with other testimonies. msfiddlestix Mar 2023 #31
lol housecat Mar 2023 #12
So, who's going to jail with Тяцмp? KS Toronado Mar 2023 #13
I bet Ratcliffe will be the first rat on the Chumpster peppertree Mar 2023 #15
LOL BumRushDaShow Mar 2023 #17
Thanks! peppertree Mar 2023 #27
Pied Piper analogy - to the cliff! BumRushDaShow Mar 2023 #28
Funny and sad at the same time peppertree Mar 2023 #29
Miller needs to be very near the top of that list BumRushDaShow Mar 2023 #16
He is ! KS Toronado Mar 2023 #18
LOL BumRushDaShow Mar 2023 #22
Steve "Eichmann" Miller? erronis Mar 2023 #19
One and the same BumRushDaShow Mar 2023 #21
Hoping they grill Miller well ... to a crisp. JudyM Mar 2023 #23
He needs to be first in line IMHO BumRushDaShow Mar 2023 #26
Tough luck Donny boy Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2023 #14
Even Stephen Miller? democrank Mar 2023 #20
Can an indictment for SOMETHING, ANYTHING come down? Please? AngryOldDem Mar 2023 #24
Is there a timeline? Who will police this order? Magoo48 Mar 2023 #25
K&R BlueWavePsych Mar 2023 #30

Walleye

(30,984 posts)
3. Now that brought a smile to my wrinkled old face
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 12:18 PM
Mar 2023

I hate that Mark Meadows, fascists would never succeed without guys like him

Fiendish Thingy

(15,555 posts)
4. Trump's EP claims have already been ruled on by SCOTUS
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 12:19 PM
Mar 2023

I would be surprised if they even agree to hear the case.

underpants

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5. THE COOCH!!! 😃
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 12:21 PM
Mar 2023

Former Trump aides Nick Luna and John McEntee, along with former top DHS official Ken Cuccinelli, were also included in the order, the sources said.

bucolic_frolic

(43,064 posts)
6. He's like an Olde West bank robber retreating to the hills after every heist
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 12:23 PM
Mar 2023

Trying anything to skirt the law and avoid responsibility

BumRushDaShow

(128,527 posts)
10. In the tweet in the OP comments was this
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 12:46 PM
Mar 2023
SIDE NOTE: Yesterday, the same appeals court panel that rejected efforts to block Corcoran's testimony made an identical ruling in another sealed case that we have yet to identify.

It's a stored communication (phone/email) case that Howell decided on March 3.


And am speculating that the order for those guys to testify was appealed and rejected (but the disposition is sealed).

In Corcoran's case, he didn't appeal further and is testifying right now. The issue would be whether that laundry list of others, if they are actually the subject of the appeal ruling noted that is sealed, would demand en banc and then SCOTUS... But we have been there, done that before with the SCOTUS, and they have consistently rejected "Executive Privilege" claims.

ETA - Alternately, it could possibly relate to Navarro too...

msfiddlestix

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31. I hope so. I wonder if we will ever know. depositions remain sealed with other testimonies.
Sat Mar 25, 2023, 08:13 AM
Mar 2023

To clarify, it appears rulings and testimonies seem to be routinely sealed. Some are revealed in the occasional leak via twitter or news org, which I frequently find buried in the story at the bottom of the article or similarly buried as an incidental mention.

so frustrating!

KS Toronado

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13. So, who's going to jail with Тяцмp?
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 01:04 PM
Mar 2023

Meadows
Stephen Miller
John Ratcliffe
Stephen Miller
Robert O'Brien
Stephen Miller
Dan Scavino
Stephen Miller
Nick Luna
Stephen Miller
John McEntee
Stephen Miller
Ken Cuccinelli

Hope Jack Smith's investigation balloons like Watergate did, except this time the head guy goes down also.

peppertree

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29. Funny and sad at the same time
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 03:33 PM
Mar 2023

Right-wingers are entitled to their fixations, of course - but the problem is that they threaten to drag our democracy (along with the rest of us) down with them.

A lot of wisdom in some of those old fairy tales.

erronis

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19. Steve "Eichmann" Miller?
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 01:20 PM
Mar 2023


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Eichmann
Throughout his cross-examination, prosecutor Hausner attempted to get Eichmann to admit he was personally guilty, but no such confession was forthcoming.[189] Eichmann admitted to not liking the Jews and viewing them as adversaries, but stated that he never thought their annihilation was justified.[190] When Hausner produced evidence that Eichmann had stated in 1945 that "I will leap into my grave laughing because the feeling that I have five million human beings on my conscience is for me a source of extraordinary satisfaction", Eichmann said he meant "enemies of the Reich" such as the Soviets.[191] During later examination by the judges, he admitted he meant the Jews, and said the remark was an accurate reflection of his opinion at the time.[192]


The use of "Eichmann" as an archetype stems from Hannah Arendt's notion of the "banality of evil".[218] Arendt, a political theorist who reported on Eichmann's trial for The New Yorker, described Eichmann in her book Eichmann in Jerusalem as the embodiment of the "banality of evil", as she thought he appeared to have an ordinary personality, displaying neither guilt nor hatred.[6][219] In his 1988 book Justice, Not Vengeance, Wiesenthal said: "The world now understands the concept of 'desk murderer'. We know that one doesn't need to be fanatical, sadistic, or mentally ill to murder millions; that it is enough to be a loyal follower eager to do one's duty."[220] The term "little Eichmanns" became a pejorative term for bureaucrats charged with indirectly and systematically harming others.[221]

In her 2011 book Eichmann Before Jerusalem, based largely on the Sassen interviews and Eichmann's notes made while in exile, Bettina Stangneth argues instead that Eichmann was an ideologically motivated antisemite and lifelong committed Nazi who intentionally built a persona as a faceless bureaucrat for presentation at the trial.[222] Historians such as Christopher Browning, Deborah Lipstadt, Yaacov Lozowick, and David Cesarani reached a similar conclusion: that Eichmann was not the unthinking bureaucratic functionary that Arendt believed him to be.[223]

BumRushDaShow

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21. One and the same
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 01:27 PM
Mar 2023



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BumRushDaShow

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26. He needs to be first in line IMHO
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 02:32 PM
Mar 2023

although I'm curious what his role might have been for J6 given that he seemed to focus on inflicting as much pain as he could on the domestic policy agenda, which took a lot of work.

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
24. Can an indictment for SOMETHING, ANYTHING come down? Please?
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 01:54 PM
Mar 2023

Getting pretty damn sick of the drip-drip-drip and wagon-circling, and Trump’s endless appeals that always go no-fucking-where.

Yes, I am well aware of how the process works, so I don’t need lectures. I am just getting sick and tired of the daily Trump circus of criminality.

While I’m ranting, executive privilege, as well as the DOJ’s opinion on pursuing criminal charges against a sitting president, need to be more closely examined. This is a large reason why this bullshit is never ending.


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