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Fri Mar 17, 2023, 05:52 PM

Jack the Greater (462 posts)

Slovakia to send 13 MiG jets to Ukraine

Source: The Telegraph

Slovakia will donate all 13 of its MiG-29 warplanes to Ukraine, becoming the second Nato member after Poland to pledge the fighter jets despite the Kremlin warning they would be "destroyed".

"We're giving these MiGs to Ukraine so that it can protect civilians against the many bombs that fall on their houses and which are the reason why people are dying in Ukraine," Slovak Prime Minister Eduard Heger told journalists on Friday.

He said Bratislava would also deliver a Kub air defence system to Ukraine.

It comes just a day after Poland said it would send four Soviet-made MiG-29 jets to Ukraine "in the coming days".

Read more: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/03/17/ukraine-russia-war-latest-ukraine-russia-war-latest-news-putin/

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Slovakia to send 13 MiG jets to Ukraine (Original post)	Jack the Greater	Mar 17	OP
I guess pooty is going to have to take on all of eastern Europe	cilla4progress	Mar 17	#1
I have a theory about this	montanacowboy	Mar 17	#2
Why can't we be seen doing that?	Demanchor	Mar 17	#4
I read similar. Two Uke pilots if i remember correctly.	Jack the Greater	Mar 17	#7
That's wise and logical	Demanchor	Mar 17	#22
if one is brought down	Conjuay	Saturday	#24
Um, Mig 29s are Russian aircraft	masmdu	Saturday	#27
Also to consider is that Ukrainian pilots are very familiar with MiGs, not so much with F-16s	Jack the Greater	Mar 17	#6
Excellent! 👏👏👏👏	SheltieLover	Mar 17	#3
Ditto!!	onetexan	Mar 17	#14
like it	republianmushroom	Mar 17	#5
Eastern Europeans have had lots of experience with Russian expansionism.	thucythucy	Mar 17	#8
In more good news, I read somewhere that Ukraine has a large pool	Aristus	Mar 17	#9
Yes!!	sprinkleeninow	Mar 17	#10
Give them the aircraft needed. JFC. All of NATO needs to get behind this. Fuck Putin.	Evolve Dammit	Mar 17	#11
THIS!!☝️	onetexan	Mar 17	#15
☝️☝️	Beachnutt	Mar 17	#17
Ukraine's pilots have been trained to fly MIGs - that's why our planes would be useless	FakeNoose	Mar 17	#12
Did just read that American F-16 pilots were willing to volunteer in Ukraine if the US sends jets	PortTack	Mar 17	#13
Can you post the article?	onetexan	Mar 17	#16
Here ya go	PortTack	Saturday	#23
thanks for posting!!	onetexan	Saturday	#26
Yeah I have thought all along we should have another "Flying Tigers" in Ukraine	EX500rider	Mar 17	#18
That's a better than sending them Melania like they did to us!	SunSeeker	Mar 17	#19
Oops! Wrong country. The third Mrs. Dump is from Slovenia, a small country bordering the east side	Trailrider1951	Mar 17	#20
My apologies to Slovakia for associating them with her!	SunSeeker	Mar 17	#21
you might have started an international incident!	Conjuay	Saturday	#25
Ty, Slovakia! 🌻🇺🇦🌻	electric_blue68	Saturday	#28

Response to Jack the Greater (Original post)

Fri Mar 17, 2023, 05:57 PM

cilla4progress (22,509 posts)

1. I guess pooty is going to have to take on all of eastern Europe

if he's gonna keep going...

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Fri Mar 17, 2023, 05:59 PM

montanacowboy (5,585 posts)

2. I have a theory about this

I think we are behind this, as we can't be seen to be giving them the fighters, but I bet behind the scenes we are helping expedite this. If so, good for us.

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Fri Mar 17, 2023, 06:05 PM

Demanchor (82 posts)

4. Why can't we be seen doing that?

I heard some Ukrainians were being trained at an airfield in Tucson and assumed we were going to give them planes. Where did I go wrong?

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Fri Mar 17, 2023, 06:19 PM

Jack the Greater (462 posts)

7. I read similar. Two Uke pilots if i remember correctly.

Probably a long term project that will not result in any F-16s being sent to Ukraine this year or even next. What makes sense is for MiGs to be sent to Ukraine because their pilots already know how to fly them, Spare parts are in place, and mechanics there know how to maintain them.

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Fri Mar 17, 2023, 11:25 PM

Demanchor (82 posts)

22. That's wise and logical

To give them equipment they’re familiar with and prepared for. I guess I didn’t understand the mention of “not wanting to be seen” doing something for Ukraine.

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Sat Mar 18, 2023, 07:50 AM

Conjuay (431 posts)

24. if one is brought down

Russia might gain some technological info they don’t already have.

Just a thought.

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Sat Mar 18, 2023, 08:03 AM

masmdu (2,406 posts)

27. Um, Mig 29s are Russian aircraft

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Fri Mar 17, 2023, 06:15 PM

Jack the Greater (462 posts)

6. Also to consider is that Ukrainian pilots are very familiar with MiGs, not so much with F-16s

Poland and Slovakia can be resupplied with F-16s, and not having a pressing need for jet fighters at the moment, they have plenty of time to train flying them. In fact, Slovakia purchased 14 F-16s in 2018 to replace their MiG-29s, and may have received the first of them. I would not be at all surprised if the US provided an incentive for them to give the MiG-29s to Ukraine.

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Fri Mar 17, 2023, 06:00 PM

SheltieLover (57,073 posts)

3. Excellent! 👏👏👏👏

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Fri Mar 17, 2023, 07:39 PM

onetexan (11,721 posts)

14. Ditto!!

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Fri Mar 17, 2023, 06:07 PM

republianmushroom (5,709 posts)

5. like it

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Fri Mar 17, 2023, 06:39 PM

thucythucy (7,334 posts)

8. Eastern Europeans have had lots of experience with Russian expansionism.

It makes perfect sense they'd want to do everything they can--short of war--to keep the bear away from their own doors.

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Fri Mar 17, 2023, 06:59 PM

Aristus (61,633 posts)

9. In more good news, I read somewhere that Ukraine has a large pool

of trained pilots all ready to go.

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Fri Mar 17, 2023, 07:01 PM

sprinkleeninow (18,730 posts)

10. Yes!!

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Fri Mar 17, 2023, 07:02 PM

Evolve Dammit (14,180 posts)

11. Give them the aircraft needed. JFC. All of NATO needs to get behind this. Fuck Putin.

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Fri Mar 17, 2023, 07:40 PM

onetexan (11,721 posts)

15. THIS!!☝️

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Fri Mar 17, 2023, 07:57 PM

Beachnutt (4,981 posts)

17. ☝️☝️

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Fri Mar 17, 2023, 07:38 PM

FakeNoose (28,402 posts)

12. Ukraine's pilots have been trained to fly MIGs - that's why our planes would be useless

Thanks Slovakia, for stepping up!

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Fri Mar 17, 2023, 07:39 PM

PortTack (29,105 posts)

13. Did just read that American F-16 pilots were willing to volunteer in Ukraine if the US sends jets

F-16s take approx a year of training, and they need full time maintenance crews as well.

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Fri Mar 17, 2023, 07:41 PM

onetexan (11,721 posts)

16. Can you post the article?

Thx

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Sat Mar 18, 2023, 01:10 AM

PortTack (29,105 posts)

23. Here ya go

https://euromaidanpress.com/2023/03/18/deadliest-f-16-pilot-offers-solution-to-ukraines-jet-problem/

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Sat Mar 18, 2023, 07:55 AM

onetexan (11,721 posts)

26. thanks for posting!!

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Fri Mar 17, 2023, 08:02 PM

EX500rider (8,795 posts)

18. Yeah I have thought all along we should have another "Flying Tigers" in Ukraine

aka The First American Volunteer Group (AVG) of the Republic of China Air Force

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Tigers

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Fri Mar 17, 2023, 08:19 PM

SunSeeker (49,129 posts)

19. That's a better than sending them Melania like they did to us!

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Fri Mar 17, 2023, 08:31 PM

Trailrider1951 (3,175 posts)

20. Oops! Wrong country. The third Mrs. Dump is from Slovenia, a small country bordering the east side

of Italy. That country used to be part of Yugoslavia. Slovakia is north of there. It used to be part of Czechoslovakia.

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Fri Mar 17, 2023, 08:34 PM

SunSeeker (49,129 posts)

21. My apologies to Slovakia for associating them with her!

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Sat Mar 18, 2023, 07:53 AM

Conjuay (431 posts)

25. you might have started an international incident!

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Sat Mar 18, 2023, 08:54 AM

electric_blue68 (10,935 posts)

28. Ty, Slovakia! 🌻🇺🇦🌻

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