Wed Feb 8, 2023, 11:33 AM
groundloop (10,922 posts)
Big Oil doubles profits in blockbuster 2022
Source: Reuters
Big Oil more than doubled its profits in 2022 to $219 billion, smashing previous records in a year of volatile energy prices where Russia's invasion of Ukraine reshaped global energy markets and, in some cases, the industry's climate ambitions. The profit surge gave the oil companies scope to increase spending on oil and gas projects, and a chance for some to rethink energy transition strategies to meet new demands for security of supply. The combined $219 billion in profits allowed BP (BP.L), Chevron (CVX.N), Equinor (EQNR.OL), Exxon Mobil (XOM.N), Shell (SHEL.L) and TotalEnergies (TTEF.PA) to shower shareholders with cash. The top Western oil companies paid out a record $110 billion in dividends and share repurchases to investors in 2022, spurring outraged calls on governments to impose windfall taxes on the industry to help consumers with surging energy costs. Read more: https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/big-oil-doubles-profits-blockbuster-2022-2023-02-08/
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groundloop | Feb 8 | OP |
ck4829 | Feb 8 | #1 | |
CountAllVotes | Feb 8 | #2 | |
multigraincracker | Feb 8 | #4 | |
CountAllVotes | Feb 8 | #6 | |
FredGarvin | Feb 8 | #13 | |
IronLionZion | Feb 8 | #15 | |
Botany | Feb 8 | #3 | |
Cheezoholic | Feb 8 | #5 | |
jalan48 | Feb 8 | #7 | |
Bengus81 | Feb 8 | #8 | |
SouthernDem4ever | Feb 8 | #9 | |
IronLionZion | Feb 8 | #10 | |
pandr32 | Feb 8 | #11 | |
SuperCoder | Feb 8 | #12 | |
republianmushroom | Feb 8 | #14 | |
Evolve Dammit | Feb 8 | #16 | |
Initech | Feb 8 | #17 | |
MichMan | Feb 8 | #20 | |
d_b | Feb 8 | #18 | |
GB_RN | Feb 8 | #19 | |
The Jungle 1 | Feb 8 | #21 | |
C Moon | Feb 8 | #22 | |
lastlib | Feb 8 | #23 | |
Samrob | Feb 8 | #24 |
Response to groundloop (Original post)
Wed Feb 8, 2023, 11:51 AM
ck4829 (34,290 posts)
1. Time to share the love?
Response to groundloop (Original post)
Wed Feb 8, 2023, 11:52 AM
CountAllVotes (20,465 posts)
2. The cheapest I could find yesterday was ...
$4.79/gallon from some place in town called "Great Gas".
Its all from the same place isn't it? I hope so. I have a credit card that gives 5% cashback on gasoline so by using that card it was $4.55 a gallon. Its a good thing I do not drive much isn't it? ![]() ![]() |
Response to CountAllVotes (Reply #2)
Wed Feb 8, 2023, 12:04 PM
multigraincracker (29,789 posts)
4. When pump prices are high,
do not buy one other thing in the station. That would bring prices at the pump down fast.
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Response to multigraincracker (Reply #4)
Wed Feb 8, 2023, 12:07 PM
CountAllVotes (20,465 posts)
6. I never do that
I can't feed the beast any more than I already am.
This is very difficult on people like me. People living on next to nothing! What a disgrace IMO. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Response to multigraincracker (Reply #4)
Wed Feb 8, 2023, 01:28 PM
FredGarvin (322 posts)
13. Quite the opposite
Gas stations in my area actually have lower gas prices because of their popularity.
Most of their profits are from attracting customers with low gas prices, and mark up their goods. |
Response to CountAllVotes (Reply #2)
Wed Feb 8, 2023, 01:46 PM
IronLionZion (41,985 posts)
15. The gasbuddy app is helpful for comparing prices
in my area, prices are lower down side roads away from major commuting routes.
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Response to groundloop (Original post)
Wed Feb 8, 2023, 11:53 AM
Botany (67,339 posts)
3. Inflation much?
n/t
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Response to groundloop (Original post)
Wed Feb 8, 2023, 12:05 PM
Cheezoholic (1,312 posts)
5. I know jack about economics
But the inflation reduction act took effect on 1/1/23 so (assuming the article is pointing to US oil business) that 110 billion in buybacks would've generated about 1 billion in tax revenue (at the new 1% excise tax in the act) if it was after 12/31/22. Besides the gross price gouging by these criminal companies was this big buyback partially or maybe even mostly driven to happen in 2022 to avoid the new tax penalty?
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Response to groundloop (Original post)
Wed Feb 8, 2023, 12:08 PM
jalan48 (13,692 posts)
7. And yet, there was Mr. Fossil Fuel, Joe Manchin, warning Biden not to berate Republicans in his
SOTU speech yesterday. Priorities you know.
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Response to groundloop (Original post)
Wed Feb 8, 2023, 12:15 PM
Bengus81 (6,675 posts)
8. That's bad enough,what's WORSE is gas is going UP at the pump
Those gouging fucks along with lots of others are going to run this game all the way through 2023 IMO.
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Response to Bengus81 (Reply #8)
Wed Feb 8, 2023, 12:24 PM
SouthernDem4ever (2,478 posts)
9. The profits proove price gouging
Time for a windfall profits tax.
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Response to groundloop (Original post)
Wed Feb 8, 2023, 01:04 PM
IronLionZion (41,985 posts)
10. They'll trickle it down to lower prices at the pump real soon
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Response to groundloop (Original post)
Wed Feb 8, 2023, 01:12 PM
pandr32 (9,962 posts)
11. This is obscene.
It is predatory and we are the weakened and hunted for every dollar we have as we need gas to get to work and use energy (often gas or oil) to heat our homes. For what? The money culled from us doesn't wind up back in our communities benefiting us in any way. Most of us are not shareholders or those at the top of these predatory schemes.
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Response to groundloop (Original post)
Wed Feb 8, 2023, 01:23 PM
SuperCoder (258 posts)
12. It's absolute BS...
And truly disgusting...
That we have to have our gas bills raised in December/January from heat yet these dirtbags are raking in profits year after year. There should be limits (say 1 or 2 percent of an individual's income) of what these greedy a-holes can charge for gas required to heat a home. Rather than being forced to compete with a car payment. |
Response to groundloop (Original post)
Wed Feb 8, 2023, 01:31 PM
republianmushroom (5,623 posts)
14. just a little greedy.
Response to groundloop (Original post)
Wed Feb 8, 2023, 02:05 PM
Evolve Dammit (14,169 posts)
16. Fucking pirates. Obscene is right.
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Response to groundloop (Original post)
Wed Feb 8, 2023, 02:09 PM
Initech (96,246 posts)
17. I think it's way past time for an excessive profit tax.
Like anything over $10 billion per quarter gets taxed like 75% or higher. Because they don't do anything with the money except store it in offshore bank accounts. This needs to change now.
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Response to Initech (Reply #17)
Wed Feb 8, 2023, 03:42 PM
MichMan (8,997 posts)
20. It would make more sense to base it on profit margin percentages.
Otherwise, companies would be free to gouge people as long as their total profit under some threshold that would only apply to the very biggest.
Like any profit margins over 10% be taxed 75% |
Response to groundloop (Original post)
Wed Feb 8, 2023, 03:03 PM
d_b (7,435 posts)
18. recouping the pandemic losses
because they can.
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Response to groundloop (Original post)
Wed Feb 8, 2023, 03:13 PM
GB_RN (1,897 posts)
19. Because...
Of course they did. Greedy bastards.
RepubliCons: Nothing to see here. Move along. Move along... |
Response to groundloop (Original post)
Wed Feb 8, 2023, 03:42 PM
The Jungle 1 (3,847 posts)
21. I still say they were attempting to influence the election.
Response to groundloop (Original post)
Wed Feb 8, 2023, 03:45 PM
C Moon (11,374 posts)
22. So when trying to affect elections they even make out big. Quite a scam they got going.
Response to groundloop (Original post)
Wed Feb 8, 2023, 07:17 PM
lastlib (20,284 posts)
23. I own some ConocoPhillips stock, here's an indication of how they are profiting:
In 2019, I received $67 in dividends on my shares from them. In 2020 and 2021, that jumped to $88; but since 2022, I have received FIVE *special dividends* in addition to my regular quarterly dividends, and all but one of those special dividends was larger than the regular dividends. In total, since 2021, I have been paid $259, or roughly THREE TIMES the regular dividend amounts. All told, since 2014, I have received over $800 in dividends (and this is on a fairly small number of shares), approximately one-third of it in the past 15 months.
Wanna see something else? The stock hit a low of $33.83 in February 2016; since then, it has appreciated by 260%--a compound annual return of 20.3%; and that is WITHOUT the dividends. With dividends, the total return is 343%, a compound annual return of 24.1%. Not a bad investment. It would be illuminating, if I had time, to dig out their annual report/10-K, and just see what they reported for income and profit for recent years. From my personal financial perspective, I'm very happy to see them doing so well. From my social/political perspective, it infuriates me to see them greedily gouging the public on such a massive scale. My problem is reconciling the two...... |
Response to groundloop (Original post)
Wed Feb 8, 2023, 08:27 PM
Samrob (4,119 posts)