Sun Feb 5, 2023, 09:51 PM
iemanja (52,584 posts)
Dave Chappelle Wins Grammy for Netflix Special Condemned for Being Transphobic
Source: Hollywood Reporter Dave Chappelle won best comedy album at the 2023 Grammys for his most recent special The Closer, which received backlash over material focused on the transgender community. The comedian took the honor Sunday over Louis C.K. (Sorry), Jim Gaffigan (Comedy Monster), Randy Rainbow (A Little Brains, A Little Talent) and Patton Oswalt (We All Scream). The award serves as Chappelle’s fourth Grammy and follows C.K.’s controversial win last year for Sincerely Louis CK, his first comedy album since his sexual misconduct revelations. . . . After Chappelle and C.K. were nominated for the 2023 Grammys, Recording Academy CEO Harvey Mason jr. told The Hollywood Reporter in part, “We don’t control who the voters vote for.” “If the voters feel like a creator deserves a nomination, they’re going to vote for them,” Mason jr. said, addressing controversial nominees. “We’re never going to be in the business of deciding someone’s moral position or where we evaluate them to be on the scale of morality. I think our job is to evaluate the art and the quality of the art. We can make sure that all of our spaces are safe and people don’t feel threatened by anyone. But as far as the nominations or the awards, we really let the voters make that decision.” Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/music/news/dave-chappelle-wins-grammy-for-netflix-special-condemned-for-being-transphobic/ar-AA178IPz?ocid=entnewsntp&cvid=7b025af6c7b04867af2bdf16ab080a70
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 Dave Chappelle Wins Grammy for Netflix Special Condemned for Being Transphobic (Original post) |
iemanja | Feb 5 | OP |
| NullTuples | Feb 5 | #1 | |
| LudwigPastorius | Feb 5 | #2 | |
| orleans | Feb 6 | #3 | |
| nevergiveup | Feb 6 | #4 | |
| Ford_Prefect | Feb 6 | #5 | |
| tonekat | Feb 9 | #15 | |
| SouthernDem4ever | Feb 6 | #6 | |
| BumRushDaShow | Feb 6 | #7 | |
| catsudon | Feb 6 | #8 | |
| BumRushDaShow | Feb 6 | #9 | |
| mopinko | Feb 6 | #10 | |
| BumRushDaShow | Feb 6 | #11 | |
| Martin68 | Feb 7 | #12 | |
| obamanut2012 | Feb 7 | #13 | |
| Martin68 | Feb 8 | #14 |
Response to iemanja (Original post)
Sun Feb 5, 2023, 10:31 PM
1. "We're never going to be in the business of...where we evaluate...morality"
Response to NullTuples (Reply #1)
Sun Feb 5, 2023, 11:48 PM
2. I'm sure his paycheck plays into it, but...
Response to iemanja (Original post)
Mon Feb 6, 2023, 01:05 AM
orleans (32,213 posts)
3. maybe i'm naive but this surprises me. nt
Response to orleans (Reply #3)
Mon Feb 6, 2023, 02:41 AM
nevergiveup (4,481 posts)
4. Yeah, me too. It is very disappointing.
Response to iemanja (Original post)
Mon Feb 6, 2023, 06:54 AM
Ford_Prefect (7,121 posts)
5. It is about the Entertainment Business rewarding itself for editing and selling popular culture.
Response to iemanja (Original post)
Mon Feb 6, 2023, 07:36 AM
SouthernDem4ever (2,551 posts)
6. Awesome that Randy Rainbow received a nomination
Response to iemanja (Original post)
Mon Feb 6, 2023, 08:33 AM
BumRushDaShow (109,999 posts)
7. "We're never going to be in the business of deciding someone's moral position"
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So say if someone does a comedy show akin to a minstrel performance derogatorily mocking blacks as "lazy shuffling coons" without any ability or expertise to be able to separate out perpetuating a "stereotype" from doing a "mocking parody", then that's okay because it's "someone's moral position" that you all of a sudden have no authority to "control".
  
This means you open the door for antisemites to "vote for" someone like Kanye and make celebrating him "acceptable". "Letting the voters make the decision..." when it comes to TRAMPLING rights of traditionally-oppressed communities is how Jim Crow happened - and particularly because "the voters" were narrowly selected. |
Response to catsudon (Reply #8)
Mon Feb 6, 2023, 10:19 AM
BumRushDaShow (109,999 posts)
9. I remember when "Bamboozled" came out!
Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #9)
Mon Feb 6, 2023, 11:15 AM
mopinko (66,526 posts)
10. have you seen- "a jazzman's blues"?
Response to mopinko (Reply #10)
Mon Feb 6, 2023, 12:00 PM
BumRushDaShow (109,999 posts)
11. No - I have been trying to catch up
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I just got Netflix with my T-Mobile when I finally converted my Sprint account over to them (they bought out Sprint) not long ago so need to set aside some time to do some binge watching!
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Response to iemanja (Original post)
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 11:45 AM
Martin68 (20,359 posts)
12. I don't really think I understand where comedy leaves off and bigotry begins or how to distinguish
Response to Martin68 (Reply #12)
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 01:20 PM
obamanut2012 (23,857 posts)
13. He punches down, it is not in good faith
Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #13)
Wed Feb 8, 2023, 11:28 AM
Martin68 (20,359 posts)
14. I'm not sure he's "punching" at all. Again, I feel the line between an attack or disparagement and
