Tue Jan 31, 2023, 07:13 PM

TheProle (1,310 posts)

U.S. Readies $2 Billion-Plus Ukraine Aid Package With Longer-Range Weapons -Sources

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Source: U.S. News and World Report

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States is readying more than $2 billion worth of military aid for Ukraine that is expected to include longer-range rockets for the first time and other munitions and weapons, two U.S. officials briefed on the matter told Reuters on Tuesday.

The weapons aid is expected to be announced as soon as later this week, the officials said. It is also expected to include support equipment for Patriot air defense systems, precision guided munitions and Javelin anti-tank weapons, they added.

One of the officials said that a portion of the package, $1.725 billion, would come from a fund known as the Ukraine Security Assistance Initiative (USAI), which allows President Joe Biden's administration to get weapons from industry rather than from existing U.S. weapons stocks.

The USAI funds would go toward the purchase of a new weapon, Ground Launched Small Diameter Bomb (GLSDB), which have a range of 94 miles (150 km). The United States has rebuffed requests for the 185-mile (297-km) range ATACMS missile.

Read more: https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2023-01-31/u-s-readies-2-billion-plus-ukraine-aid-package-with-longer-range-weapons-sources

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10 replies	Author	Time	Post
U.S. Readies $2 Billion-Plus Ukraine Aid Package With Longer-Range Weapons -Sources (Original post)	TheProle	Jan 31	OP
Excellent!	ananda	Jan 31	#1
We gotta do it - whatever it takes....	walkingman	Jan 31	#2
Ukraine needs the ATACMS.	TomSlick	Jan 31	#3
Absolutely correct!	paleotn	Jan 31	#6
On a news segment little while ago: ruzzzia destroying Bahkmut. nt/	sprinkleeninow	Jan 31	#4
They need ATACMS. They need the range.	paleotn	Jan 31	#5
Never understood the "escalation" argument	LiberalLovinLug	Jan 31	#9
Small diameter bombs are a good incremental approach	Red Mountain	Jan 31	#7
like it	republianmushroom	Jan 31	#8
Locking after discussion among forum hosts	JudyM	Feb 1	#10

Response to TheProle (Original post)

Tue Jan 31, 2023, 07:17 PM

ananda (27,569 posts)

1. Excellent!

We are getting a lot of excellence from President Biden these days,
and from our Dem Congress for standing up to the GQP.

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Response to TheProle (Original post)

Tue Jan 31, 2023, 07:32 PM

walkingman (5,675 posts)

2. We gotta do it - whatever it takes....

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Response to TheProle (Original post)

Tue Jan 31, 2023, 07:32 PM

TomSlick (10,286 posts)

3. Ukraine needs the ATACMS.

It is wrong to deny Ukraine the ability to strike the missile, artillery, and drone sites that are killing civilians.

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Response to TomSlick (Reply #3)

Tue Jan 31, 2023, 07:55 PM

paleotn (15,780 posts)

6. Absolutely correct!

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Response to TheProle (Original post)

Tue Jan 31, 2023, 07:41 PM

sprinkleeninow (18,752 posts)

4. On a news segment little while ago: ruzzzia destroying Bahkmut. nt/

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Response to TheProle (Original post)

Tue Jan 31, 2023, 07:55 PM

paleotn (15,780 posts)

5. They need ATACMS. They need the range.

Russia has a significant reach advantage when it comes to standoff weapons and ballistic missiles. GLSDB isn't going to cut it. The Russkies will simply move command, control and supply further back. An inconvenience for the Russians. A critical problem for Ukraine. In for a goddamn penny, in for a mother fucking pound.

What's Russia going to do? Nuke the west? Please.

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Response to paleotn (Reply #5)

Tue Jan 31, 2023, 10:17 PM

LiberalLovinLug (13,711 posts)

9. Never understood the "escalation" argument

As I've heard someone else say before....Putin escalated everything by invading Ukraine. That was the escalation. To then have leaders in the West shrink back and make excuses that they don't want to make Putin madder or he might do something is ridiculous.

All Putin understands is force. And no matter how much hand wringing and fantasies about Putin capitulating peacefully, its not going to ever happen. He's already in for the the mf pound himself.

The sooner the West decides to really win this war, the less death and destruction and world economic problems, and the sooner it all ends. No way we can just bow down and let Putin have whatever he wants because he might start a nuclear war.

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Response to TheProle (Original post)

Tue Jan 31, 2023, 09:17 PM

Red Mountain (1,354 posts)

7. Small diameter bombs are a good incremental approach

forces the Russians to reset their entire supply chain to avoid them......and they're CHEAP......and work with existing MLRS launchers.

ATACMS later. Expensive.

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Response to TheProle (Original post)

Tue Jan 31, 2023, 09:19 PM

republianmushroom (5,871 posts)

8. like it

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Response to TheProle (Original post)

Wed Feb 1, 2023, 12:49 PM

JudyM (26,217 posts)

10. Locking after discussion among forum hosts

This is anticipatory news -- since only one announcement is allowed in LBN, and the actual weapons given will be the important news, the formal announcement laying out that info will be a great LBN post. Until then, General Discussion can host any threads about it. Thanks.

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